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Jewish community decides to ruin lives of Neturei Karta
Jewish elements in New York have declared war on members of the Jewish Neturei Karta movement who participated in the Holocaust denial conference in Iran last month and were photographed hugging and kissing Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

The New York based Jewish Defense Organization, who has been active against the phenomenon of Neturei Karta, have launched a campaign dubbed “Operation Screwball” against the anti-Zionist ultra-Orthodox movement calling for a full boycott of its members and a rally at the Neturei Karta “secret headquarters” in the town of Monsey north of New York City Sunday afternoon.

The website opened by the organizers of the operation reveals the photos, home addresses, and phone numbers of several top officials in the movement who recently visited Iran and participated in the Holocaust denial conference there. The website calls on all Jews to “keep them out of your shuls, do not hire them to do any work, and toss them out of any store they come to.”

“Neturei Karta crackpots are traitors to the Jews for helping Iranian Hitler-imitator Ahmadinejad who is planning to wipe Israel off the map with nuclear weapons. Now in response, "Operation Screwball" has been initiated to help wreck & ruin these self-haters, and Jewish traitors out of Monsey. I am sure Iran will welcome them with open arms,” the website says.

The list of Neturei Karta members whose information was posted on the website include Yisroel Weiss, "Rabbi" Yisroel Feldman, David Feldman - son of Rabbi Feldman, William Mordechai Weberman, Nachmann Deutsch, Chaim Lefkowitz, Anshy & Chazy Schwartz, Chaim Fryman, Moishe Aryeh Friedman.

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[46] COMMENTS:
1 .  For love of G-d, love of life
As an orthodox Jew, I fully believe the state of Israel is our Promised Land, given to us by The Almighty One, (oh no! That means I am a Zionist!) I have to say, we are not commanded to love everyone, or to turn the other cheek.
We are concerned with all life, people, animals, and plants. When life ceases with anyone who is righteous, be they Jew or Gentile, it is always a sad event. It is important that we remember, we are ALL G-d''s creatures.
We are concerned with other religions, only to procure our own religious beliefs and way of life.
It would be ideal for everyone to live in peace, which is honestly what we strive for, but until the day that HaMoshiach takes his rightful seat, we will not know peace.
We must stand for ourselves, as it is obvious, this is what HASHEM wants us to do. We are damned if we do, and damned if we don''t. Whichever way, we will come out of this, for we have HASHEM on our side.
As for the haters, Solomon said it best, "There is nothing new under the sun ...
 
Love4Torah   8/31/2008 2:55 PM
2 .  SONEI ISRAEL
Although I do not believe in ignoring Jew-Haters (even Jew-Haters in long black coats), I think we are over-estimating the power of these truly insignificant and silly so-called Torah Jews. Of course, their philosophy is no more Torah than that of Jews for J.

 
SHMUEL BEN ISRAEL   6/21/2007 8:07 AM
3 .  Zionist Threat
I implore all (religious) Jewish people to remove themselves from anything having to do with Zionist''s.
This group would seperate you from G_d, from the Torah, and will eventually bring great lose and suffering to those deceived.
These Zionists and (their) State of Israel have nothing to do with the New promise of God and the Sanctuary that prophet Ezekiel says G_d (will) establish, and as Isaiah says in the new heavens and earth.
These Zionists are not a refuge if needed later, they (are) your enemy and will bring great suffering to all.
 
DeWayne Benson   5/10/2007 8:39 PM
4 .  Get them to wear large bages on their clothing
If the jewish community forced them to wear badges so that people knew who they were would that be acceptable? Perhaps herd them into a single area of town so that everyone would know where they were? Perhaps incarcerate them. You''re just stupid and crazy.
 
Steve Carmichael-Timson   4/29/2007 5:19 PM
5 .  Iran and Zionism
Iran in 2005 held a meeting about the Holocaust to bring attention to similar atrocities being done to Palestinians by Zionist Aparthied. Media coverage was kept from giving accurate coverage.
Iran in 2007 again set up a meeting, tweeking the Western-Media with "Holocaust Myth", and boy did the Media take notice. Unfortunately serving the exact purpose of President Alamadinejad, who this time has everyone talking about Aparthied.
Again, thank GOD for the True Torah Jewish who attended this meeting in hopes of ending the Zionist''s using the Holocaust to commit Aparthied atrocities.
 
DeWayne Benson   3/21/2007 12:32 AM
6 .  True Torah Jews against Zionism
As a Christian who has studied both old and new Covenants, I thank God for their commitment and obedience of the True Torah Jewish to God.
As a Christian who has researched Zionism and present day State of Israel, I pray for the Jewish people who have been fooled by the Zionists of this world.
 
DeWayne Benson   3/21/2007 12:17 AM
7 .  Net Kart
Why do you hate freedom of speech so much? These people have the gall to disagree with Zionist Israel, so they must be destroyed. Woe to anyone who disagrees with the evil Zionist. Will you murder the whole world? Slowly but surely the truth wills out. The Holocaust Conf proves that. What about the Karaite Jews? The survived the Holocaust because they didnt happen to be communists, You want us to believe the Holocost was religious but it wasnt. It 2was POLITICAL!
 
Walter Hingerty   1/27/2007 12:18 AM
8 .  Zionism
Jacob, I am an atheist. I do not hate Jews or people of any other faith. However I can give you many examples of Zionists slaughtering Goyim. Closer inspection of the 9/11 attack reveals it to be purportrated by Zionists, "By way of deception, thou shalt do war". Does that ring any bells? What about the attack on the USS Liberty, The Lavon Affair, the butchering of Palestinians by Arial Sharon? What about Israel''s plans to nuke Iran? The racist worldwide Jewish media feeding us propaganda? The fallacious lie of "Anti-semitism" and the racist JDL, JDL. The holocaust promoters and liars?
 
Scott   1/12/2007 4:07 AM
9 .  Pro free speech - stop Zionist pogroms against Dissent
the title of this story "Jewish community decides to ruin lives of Neturei Karta" strongly indicates that the paper supports such fascistic rabble-rousing, painting it as a decision of the ''Jewish Community'' (i.e. all Jews, a favourite zionist usurpation), - shame, shame on you for that deliberate lying insinuation - instead of condemning these Jewish ''brownshirt'' elements!!

It is obvious that Zionism is well capable to organise its own little KristallNacht when it sees fit - see the comment re Aaron Cohen in England

this FASCIST behaviour must be stopped by all sane people.
 
Arik   1/12/2007 1:51 AM
10 .  Pro free speech - stop Zionist pogroms against Dissent
the title of this story "Jewish community decides to ruin lives of Neturei Karta" strongly indicates that the paper supports such fascistic rabble-rousing, painting it as a decision of the ''Jewish Community'' (i.e. all Jews, a favourite zionist usurpation), - shame, shame on you for that deliberate lying insinuation - instead of condemning these Jewish ''brownshirt'' elements!!

It is obvious that Zionism is well capable to organise its own little KristallNacht when it sees fit - see the comment re Aaron Cohen in England

this FASCIST behaviour must be stopped by all sane people.
 
Arik   1/12/2007 12:25 AM
11 .  Pro free speech - stop Zionist pogroms against Dissent
the title of this story "Jewish community decides to ruin lives of Neturei Karta" strongly indicates that the paper supports such fascistic rabble-rousing, painting it as a decision of the ''Jewish Community'' (i.e. all Jews, a favourite zionist usurpation), - shame, shame on you for that deliberate lying insinuation - instead of condemning these Jewish ''brownshirt'' elements!!

It is obvious that Zionism is well capable to organise its own little KristallNacht when it sees fit - see the comment re Aaron Cohen in England

this FASCIST behaviour must be stopped by all sane people.
 
Arik   1/11/2007 11:26 PM
12 .  PROTECT NK - best ANTIDOTE to rabid Zionist warmongers
Anyone who has met NK soon recognises an amazingly brave group of erudite, peaceful + genuine people - they have extended friendship to Iran during massive hysterical ZioCon propaganda buildup for NUCLEAR WAR to bring disasters upon humanity, effectively neutralising flagrant Zionist agitprop against Iran (Ahmadinejad=Hitler) by releasing the photo-op of their Rabbi''s warmly shaking his hand in NY.
Their incorruptible and morally rock-solid opposition to Zionism, their political work in clarifying its true nature provides invaluable contrast and insight which is stripping the root of the whole Zionist project to reveal the essential monopolistic politicoreligious lie on which it stands - ZIONISM=JEWISH STATE OF ISRAEL=JUDAISM.
We can all learn a great lesson from NK.
For this exemplary humanitarianism, denying insane justifications for new wars of aggression, the Rabid Zionist Mafia will attempt to liquidate NK.
Mass mobilisation is required to protect this endangered species!!
 
IrishMan   1/11/2007 11:03 PM
13 .  lets just make sure they dont overdo it
Yeah, don''t want those new JDL boys to wind up "dying in prison" like me and earl did for trying to blow up that congressman.
 
irv the rube   1/10/2007 12:05 AM
14 .  They''re both screwballs
While the Neturei Karta are reprehensible, both Neturei Karta and JDL are screwballs. They should both be committed to the same asylum and beat each other''s brains (or whatever they have in their skulls) out.
 
Hymie   1/9/2007 7:58 PM
15 .  They''re both screwballs
While the Neturei Karta are reprehensible, both Neturei Karta and JDL are screwballs. They should both be committed to the same asylum and beat each other''s brains (or whatever they have in their skulls) out.
 
Hymie   1/9/2007 7:57 PM
16 .  SOUNDS LIKE A PURGE
Sounds like one of Stalin''s purges. As we all know, he had many so called ''Jews'' who killed for him. I''m glad we can still study this historical fact without the ADL and dis-honest Abe Foxman telling us it makes us an anti-Semite.

Put signs in windows, make the Neturei Karta members ware stars of David so we all know what they are... all because they wish to preserve the right to question.

You''re all sick! Mad with a sence of nationalism for a wellfare state! I wonder why this story has yet to be in an American newspaper???

Here''s to intellectual terrorism, a zionist creation.

May G-d save the good people of the Jewish faith from the evils of zionism.

 
infodisinfo   1/9/2007 3:45 PM
17 .  put signs up at your store windows!
“keep them out of your shuls, do not hire them to do any work, and toss them out of any store they come to.”

The irony
 
Jan   1/9/2007 1:32 PM
18 .  put signs up at your store windows!
“keep them out of your shuls, do not hire them to do any work, and toss them out of any store they come to.”

The irony
 
Jan   1/9/2007 1:19 PM
19 .  may Yahweh bless the true hebrews
because the fig tree ( Israel ) shall sprout but bear no fruit, as He said.
 
rd   1/9/2007 9:47 AM
20 .  Neturei Karta
B''SD

I read somewhere that Neturei Karta was paid by Iran government to go to the Holocaust Hoax meeting. Also I read that one NK leader named Friemman of Manhattan beat his own mother to death. Its all on WWW.JDO.ORG

 
Yossi Schwartz   1/9/2007 8:44 AM
21 .  Proof of Zionist Evil
By attacking the NK Jews only proves what an evil bunch the Talmud Zionists are. By the very actions of the Zionists themselves they give themselves away to anyone paying attention. Anybody anywhere that objects to an investigation of an historical event such as the "holocaust" most obviously is trying to hide something. When one sees just what they are trying to hide it all becomes crystal clear. By thier very nature the Zionists will and are self destructing so it all boils down to how much destruction will be done before the Zionists are neutralized and the world made a much safer place afterwords. The Zionists are getting desperate to keep thier lie hidden and are failing. The difference between Zionist Jews and True Torah Jews must ALWAYS be mentioned when speaking about the Jews in any context. Always remember: Not all Jews are bad as well as not all Christians or Muslims or others are all bad either. It is always the extremists and supremecists of any religion that are the bad guys.
 
Fireye   1/9/2007 5:25 AM
22 .  Ma fish falastin
There is no need to ''argue'' the Holocaust with anyone.
You''re all too caught up in the manufactured entity of "thepoorpalestinianpeepull" to recognize the glaringly simple fact that the Nazi war criminals themselves on trial for their lives (including the commandant of Auschwitz) never even thought to make a case that the Holocaust didn''t happen or that it was even exaggerated. The refrain was always ''we were obeying orders''. Those on trial never denied the Holocaust, but I don''t expect any intelligent commentary from Palestiniasts who frequent this Christian website like parasites on a mouldering carcass. Just like Arafat, who is currently rotting in his stone tomb. By the way, I''m cheering for Ethiopia, Somalia and American troops who are currently hunting the real monkeys and pigs - you know, the Muslim warlords who are making life miserable for everyone in East Africa. And all along, I was spoonfed that Islam is a religion of peace. What a bunch of crap that lie is.
http://www.ropma.net
 
Jacob   1/9/2007 4:03 AM
23 .  Neturei Karta
By attacking Neturei Karta the Zionists try to equal Jewishness with Zionism. It is the same as if the Sicilian mafia would insist that all Italians are mafiosi, and consequently you cannot go after the mafia without being racist anti Italian!

This is the Zionists'' use of Jewish "human shields" in the battle for evil against good.

Zionism is not Judaism and the Zionists should let Neturei Karta alone . Otherwise all Jews will be considered Zionists and when the day of reckoning comes they will all be persecuted, not only the Jewish criminal Zionist minority.
 
Made Brani   1/9/2007 1:07 AM
24 .  Never any facts
See! Look! All you hear in response to facts is "filth" and "Oh we are the victims"! Theodore Hertzl the founder of Zionism said and I quote "It is essential for the suffering of Jews.........." FACT! Not fiction, not hate! FACT-Zionists own the media! FACT- Zionists own the PRIVATELY owned Federal Reserve System through the 1913 Federal Reserve Act! FACT - Zionsists own the major publishing companies! FACT-Zionist Talmudic Jews are responsible for 95% of pornography, white slavery, chieftans of black slavery, ecstasy peddling and DE-Christening the USA. And I can provide names, dates and places of ALL MY FACTS!!!
 
Jersey   1/8/2007 9:02 PM
25 .  NK nothing more than traitors to the Jewish people
There is nothing sadder than a Jew betraying their own people, like the members of Neturei Karta have done repeatedly. All it takes is a look at the filth people have posted on these comments to see who their views appeal to. NK does not represent ANY OTHER Jewish group besides themselves. The sooner the world understands that, the fewer forums they will have for spewing their hateful, perverse message. Am Yisroel Chai!
 
Cipora Eisenberg-Simms   1/8/2007 8:50 PM
26 .  Smashing Windows IS Evil Doing
Israel was a huge, evil mistake.
THe Balfour Declaration was the Rothschilds asking the Rothschilds for Palestine, then moving in loads of non-semites in between semitic countries of a different culture, and lead by war-hungry criminals. NO you don''t belong. NO there''s no such thing as magical prophecies.. only a grand plan that involves mass murder.
 
Lebanese   1/8/2007 6:32 PM
27 .  truth seeker.....
I support Neturei Karta. The criminal zionist regime, the corrupt government of all nations, and fractional reserve banking must be stopped. Look pass the smoke screen and see the truth. These are the Slave Masters and real War Criminals. Look past the Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, loose change deception. The real powers are Dov Zakheim, Larry Silverstein, and other top Zionists in US government.
 
  1/8/2007 6:26 PM
28 .  cont....
He has always tried to destroy Israel and the Jewish people because if there are no Jews then he thinks that Jesus won''t be able to come back for them. Ha!!!! You cannot destroy all the Jews because God won''t let you. Beware of the wrath of the Lamb. (Jesus Christ) It will be poured out on all who deny Him and worship Satan. Jesus came the first time in love and grace. His second coming will be in wrath and judgement.
 
Lisa   1/8/2007 6:02 PM
29 .  Peace Lover
How can you possibly say that the twin towers were brought down by demolition? You haven''t seen the video news footage of actual planes flying into actual buildings, and the towers actually falling down? Your claims are ridiculous! We should not be surprised that all the world will hate Israel. It is prophesied in the Bible. We are hurtling toward the tribulation period and all the world will join with anti-christ to destroy Israel. There will be a 7 year peace agreement signed with the anti-christ, the coming world ruler, by Israel which will signal the beginning of the 7 year tribulation period. That treaty will be broken after 3 1/2 years. The anti-christ will sacrifice a pig in the newly rebuilt temple and the Jews will know that he is not the Messiah. They will flee to the mountains and be protected by God for 3 1/2 more years. They will realize that Yeshua is their Messiah and then He will return to them and save them. He will defeat their enemies. Satan is the real enemy. He has always tried to destro
 
Lisa   1/8/2007 5:57 PM
30 .  Zionism
Why are MOST jews so afraid of the so-called Holocaust deniers. If they are wrong, then PROVE them wrong!! Why is EVERY other subject in history okay to debate but as soon as someone questions the holocaust they are labled anti-semetic or even THROWN IN JAIL!!! It appears as though they are hiding something. What are you so afraid of?? Jail time for saying that the gas chambers were PROVEN to kill lice?? Jail time for PROVING that Anne Franks diary was a hoax?? Jail time for provong that Hitler''s (1/4 Jewish himself) top aides were ALL Jewish?? What''s next? Jail time for proving that Lenin and Stalin were bot 100% Jewish and killed more non-Jews than anyone in history??? (Bolshevik Revolution) Jail time for proving that the Zionists control 95% of the worlds finances and media?? Jail time for PROVING that without the Holohoax that the world will wake up and see that evil Zionists see non-jews as Goyim(Cattle)??? Jail time for PROVING that evil Zionists were responsible for 9/11? (Larry Silversetin, Michael
 
Jersey   1/8/2007 5:34 PM
31 .  To the muzbots who post here
It is outrageous in the extreme that the world would accept a scheme that would permit Arabs to have an ethnically cleansed geographical region where no Jews can live.

Just as Germans can live in France and French in Germany, Jews should be able to live in their homeland and remain in Hebron and Gaza as Arabs remain in Jaffa and their Galilee villages.

Why doesn''t it disgust you that the writers of the palestinian national charter would write document calling for the destruction of another country, i.e. Israel, as part of its own national vision?

If Zionism is a disease, then surely it is Palestinianism that is proving to be fatal.
 
Jacob   1/8/2007 3:09 PM
32 .  Counter Protest
Anybody living in New York should shove it back in their faces. If not for what the Netureia Karta believes, then for their freedom express it.

Zionism is a form colonialism that usurps all nations for the grandeur of Israel.

Everybody in New York, have your cell phones ready, record, and upload it in youtube and else where in the internet.
 
Zionism isn''t Judaism   1/8/2007 2:22 PM
33 .  Vai-vai
Guys, I read your stuff above and I know why Israel needs nukes. As for Greenbaum, I suppose you would betray our own people to Islamo-Fascists to save your own skin just as the Jewish ghetto police did. Oh, I suppose the Warsaw ghetto never existed either. All Israel will be saved, but not all Israel is Israel...
 
shel   1/8/2007 2:13 PM
34 .  Zionism
Speaking out against Israel does not make one an anti-Semite. Speaking out against Zionism does not make one an anti-Semite either.

If you insulted the mafia, would that make you anti-Sicilian? NO it wouldn''t.

People are too afraid of insulting the Jews - becuase they are protected. I myself as a Jew don''t believe 6 million Jews were killed in the Holocaust. I''ve spoken out against Zionism for the last 10 years. Wake up people. The Arabs are not our enemies, the Muslims are not our enemies. The enemy of man kind is the Zionists and the malignant cancer of the world is Israel.
 
Mosche Greenbaum   1/8/2007 1:57 PM
35 .  Aaron Cohen
This man from Manchester,England participated at the conference in Iran. Since he returned to England, every window in his house has been smashed and he has been banned from all shuls and shops and the town dayan has banned him from being buried in a jewish cemetory . Unfortunately the satmar community have recieved him with open arms and are allowing him to continue his evil doings.
 
Daniel Hanson   1/8/2007 1:56 PM
36 .  Tsk Tsk
First they came for the Palestinians...
but I didn''t speak out because I wasn''t Palestinian.

Then they came for the Afghanis...
Then they came for the Iraqis...
Then they came for the Iranians...

Yes, there is a holocaust happening.
All for the sake of Eretz Israel.
 
Grant Morrison   1/8/2007 7:41 AM
37 .  PEACE LOVER IS A WIMP
"Peace Lover" doesn''t know what he''s talking about. The numbers he quotes are mostly people killed by their own radical Muslim ''brothers'' trying to grab power and prevent free elections. Also, the folks like him who advacate peace at any cost usually are overrun or dead!
 
ELIZABETH USA   1/8/2007 6:23 AM
38 .  What?! Outrageous
I agree with ryeguy, Dave, Peace Lover, and Forever Anti-Zionism. Zionism is a cancer, and Israel is a hypocrite. I think Israel relishes the prospect of blowing up the entire Middle East more than anyone in the Middle East looks forward to the reverse. This blacklisting is reminiscent of McCarthyism and the anti-communist hysteria in the 50s. This should not be tolerated. This Neturei Karta movement seems to represent the best kind of Judaism, not the ''traitors.'' The "Holocaust Denial Conference" was not as some titled it. This label was pasted on by the Zionists. I hope, as does Peace Lover, that Iran doesn''t undergo the same ''renovation'' Iraq is experiencing. But I think President Bush realizes that his party is about to receive a unpleasant surprise in 2008. I don''t think there will be war.
 
Christian Socialist   1/8/2007 5:53 AM
39 .  Peace
I''m saddened by the holocaust happening right now in Iraq. The total is now over 700,000 Iraqi civilians killed since the invasion. And 1.2 million seriously injured.. In the name of freeing Iraqis?? And now there are plans to do the same to Iran. People all over the world are saddened. And I''m sorry to break it to you, but the towers were brought down by demolition, not by Arab hijackers. Zionists like SIlverstein, Chertoff, Netanyahu and ''their ilk'' are the ones to blame. To be against an Italian mafia is not anti-italian. Wake up out of your brainwashing and realise what is going on. I don''t hate jews or judaism. Is-ra-el is not judaism. ''We'' the people know that over 80% of jews are from Europe and Russia, whose ancestors converted to judaism and who are now following a cancerous form of zionist-judaism. The Rothschilds are as bad as the Oppenheimers. ''We'' ordinary atheist war-haters are tired of the constant arab hating and muslim hating in the zionist-owned media, in order to expand the state o
 
Peace Lover   1/8/2007 4:27 AM
40 .  what
This is america people are free to think what ever they want to think you shouldnt shun them or hate them thats not God like.
 
jeff   1/8/2007 3:31 AM
41 .  To the fraud who calls himself Peace Lover
Calling Zionism a "cancer" reveals you to be a muzbot. Most Islamists and Jew-haters like to call Israel a "cancer". You and your ilk couldn''t possibly say anything that we haven''t already heard from Muslims and other Jew-haters, which is actually a testimony to how perverse your culture is that you so keenly obsess about Jews and Israel.

Go on, Peace Lover. Give us more examples of cultural sensitivity and hate speech. I got one for you: one of the most grotesque schemes of cultural insensitivity is flying two planes into skyscrapers in Manhattan to kill 3,000 innocent civilians. Or performing female genital mutilations on Muslim sisters and daughters. Or slaughtering a female under the guise of "honor killing".

See, Peace Lover, there is no law on earth that requires the Jewish people to accept the revision of their history nor their own demise merely because Jew-haters like you say we should.

It is outrageous in the extreme that the world would accept a scheme that would p
 
Jacob   1/8/2007 2:53 AM
42 .  Holocaust Denial Conference?
The Holocaust Conference held in Iran was a conference for open debate of Holocaust. Why all the Zionist media names it as Holocaust Denial Conference? Is it to incite ill feeling and hatred between Jews and Muslims? I agree with Peace Lover, Zionism is the cancer of Planet Earth.

 
Forever Anti-Zionism   1/8/2007 2:44 AM
43 .  Israel has the nukes
Israel wants to nuke Iran.. they accuse Iran of what they want to do. Zionism is a cancer on the planet. People have woken up to the Zionist hate speech and hate crimes. O ye Orwellian hypocrites.
 
Peace Lover   1/7/2007 11:44 PM
44 .  nukes
It is Israel that has nuclear weapons, not Iran. Why do people propagate the idea that Ahmadinejad wants to nuke Israel? Well I know the answer, but what he said is that the Zionist state is illegimate and he hopes it will disappear in the same way the Soviet did.
 
Dave   1/7/2007 11:10 PM
45 .  excuse me?
Holocaust denial conference? it was a confererence on the holocaust...The holocaust was a historical event and as such it should be examined...Just like 911 should be examined..Of course the Zionist nutbags don''t want people to examine it because it will show things they don''t want people to know.....Bottom line folks, Zionism is the greatest threat we face today........http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2089-2535310,00.html

 
ryeguy   1/7/2007 11:09 PM
46 .  kudos with a caveat
lets just make sure they dont overdo it
 
rabbi h   1/7/2007 4:31 PM


  
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