Messianic Jews march in Jerusalem Day parade

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Wednesday, May 16, 2007 by Sara Fischer

[Photo: Messianic Jews marching in Jerusalem. Their t-shirts read: www.Yeshua.co.il - the time for Yeshua has come]

Messianic Jews on Tuesday joined in the central march kicking off the 40th anniversary celebration of the reunification of Jerusalem.

“We love Jerusalem, how can anyone not love Jerusalem,” Janet from Toronto with the Messianic Jewish Alliance of America (MJAA) told Israel Today.

Joining the members of the largest Messianic Jewish organization in North America were Israeli Messianics carrying a slightly different message.

Members of the congregation Jerusalem Assembly donned navy blue polo shirts, which read: www.Yeshua.co.il - the time for Yeshua has come. The intent was to lead people to their Hebrew-language website, an entirely evangelistic outlet to show Israelis that the Messiah has come.

An estimated 10,000 participated in the Jerusalem Day parade, including dancers, acrobats, actors, farmers driving decrepit old tractors and many dressed in traditional clothing. Concerts were held until the early hours of the morning at Jerusalem’s main parks and the city was illuminated by blue lights strung around the walls of the Old City near David’s Citadel.

In a broader sense, Jerusalem Day commemorates the three-front 1967 Six Day War, when Israel, hemmed in by its enemies, launched a spectacular offensive destroying the military capabilities of its more powerful Egyptian and Syrian foes.

As the war progressed, and Jordan ignored pleas to stay out of the fighting, Israeli paratroopers marched into Jerusalem's Old City, recapturing the Temple Mount and the Western Wall, where Jewish soldiers stood in awe of the beloved foundation stones of the Second Temple where their forefathers once worshipped their God some 2,000 years earlier.

Today, most Israelis will enthusiastically agree with the slogan displayed on the blue and white MJAA T-shirts: “Jerusalem is forever the eternal capital of the Jewish people.”

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[42] COMMENTS:

1 .

Now if Christ is preached...

that He has been raised
from the dead,
how do some among you say
that there is no resurrection
of the dead?
But if there is no resurrection
of the dead,
then Christ is not risen.

And if Christ is not risen,
then our preaching is empty
and your faith is also empty.

Yes, and we are found
false witnesses of God,

because we have testified of God
that He raised up Christ,

whom He did not raise up-
-if in fact the dead do not rise.

For if the dead do not rise,
then Christ is not risen.
And if Christ is not risen,
your faith is futile
you are still in your sins!’
Then also those who
have fallen asleep
in Christ have perished.
If in this life only
we have hope in Christ,
we are of all men the most pitiable...
I Corinthians 15:12-19 NKJ

Norway

5/23/2007 1:31 PM

2 .

And he shall make a firm covenant...

with many for one week *
and for half of the week
he shall cause the sacrifice
and the offering to cease

and upon the wing
of detestable things
shall be that which
causeth appalment
and that until
the extermination
wholly determined
be poured out upon that
which causeth appalment.''''
Daniel 9:27

* The Roman emperor
would make a treaty
with the Jewish nation
for seven years...
but for the second half
of that term
the Romans would violate
that covenant
and impede the Temple service.

The mute abomination,
i.e., a temple of idolatry
was erected
by the emperor Hadrian
on the Temple Mount (Rashi).

On the Christian mistranslation of
Daniel Nines 70 Weeks...

http://www.outreachjudaism.org/biblical.html

Norway

5/23/2007 1:26 PM

3 .

And after the threescore and two weeks...

shall an ANOINTED one *
be cut off,
and be no more
and the people of a prince
that shall come
shall destroy the city
and the sanctuary
but his end
shall be with a flood
and unto the end
of the war
desolations are determined.
Daniel 9:26 MM

Christian Bible: Daniel 9:26 NKJ

"And after the sixty-two weeks

MESSIAH shall be cut off,
but not for H-imself
And the people of the prince
who is to come...

* I.e., Agrippa,
the last Jewish king,
at the end of the
Second Temple Era.

After his death,
the prince of this verse,
the Roman Titus, would
command the destruction
of the Temple, which will not
be rebuilt until after

the War of Gog and Magog,
in Messianic times (Rashi).

Norway

5/23/2007 1:25 PM

4 .

The prince of this verse is Cyrus...

who gave permission to rebuild Jerusalem and the Temple.

* The septets refer to
full seven-year periods.

He ascended to the throne
fifty-two years
(seven full septets plus three years)
after the exile had begun.

From then until the second destruction
of Jerusalem was 438 years,
or sixty-two septets and four years
(Rashi).

Norway

5/23/2007 1:23 PM

5 .

Know therefore and discern...

that from the going forth
of the WORD
to restore and to build Jerusalem

unto one ANOINTED, a prince,
shall be seven weeks *
and for threescore and two weeks,
it shall be built again,
with broad place and moat,
but in troublous times.
Daniel 9:25 MM

Christian Bible: Daniel 9:25 NKJ

"Know therefore and understand,
That from the going forth
of the COMMAND
To restore and build Jerusalem

Until MESSIAH the PRINCE,
There shall be seven weeks
and sixty-two weeks
The street shall be built again,
and the wall,
Even in troublesome times."

Norway

5/23/2007 1:22 PM

6 .

Seventy weeks* are decreed upon thy people...

and upon thy holy city,
to finish the transgression,
and to make an end of sin,
and to forgive iniquity,
and to bring in
everlasting righteousness,
and to seal vision and prophet,
and to anoint
the most holy place.
Daniel 9:24

*Lit., seventy weeks, this phrase
refers to seventy times seven years,
or 490 years. This refers to the
seventy years of exile that
have passed from the Destruction
of the First Temple until this vision,
and the entire 420 year period
of the Second Temple (Rashi).

Norway

5/23/2007 1:20 PM

7 .

where?

"US is listed in Daniel and Revelations."

Where please?

5/22/2007 6:04 PM

8 .

To: Kate

So a person or group denoting themselves: Christian, Jews, or Moral Secularist, does not guarantee they are per biblical standards. Individual actions prove morality.

6. Israel certainly has its place in scripture it comprises scripture, spend honest time in it and no one will have to explain the preceding to you. US is listed in Daniel and Revelations.

Injustice upsets. The best against inequity is ensuring such does not exist in oneself first. The incomparable moral compass has historically proven to be the Bible for those who PRACTICE its tenets. How much injustice would occur if only the 10 Commandments were adhered too? None.

Faith

5/22/2007 6:51 AM

9 .

To: Kate

1. US was founded on Tanakh (Old Testament) & New Testament principles. Read the Constitution, Bill of Rights, American history Washington, Lincoln, Adams, Eisenhower, Truman, Kennedy, and Regan to name a few.

2. The slave trade was a thriving international horror existing prior to the US. Most were initially sold into slavery by their own people for profit. Capoism crosses all races.

3. "Captured lands" is a term applicable to EVERY country on earth since the beginning of recorded history ancient Israel included. "Caananites"?

Every country and individual, including yourself, stands on "Captured lands".

4. Here too, the envy, fear and ignorance of racism has existed since the beginning of recorded history. The Bible calls such immorality, "Sin" and that ALL mankind is susceptible to it.

A nation founded on biblical principles never guarantees all its citizens and institutions abide by such principles (e.g. Israel, USA, EU). So a person or group denoting themselves: C

Faith

5/22/2007 6:45 AM

10 .

to Faith

I am stunned by your arrogance to claim that the US was founded on the Tanakh and the NT. I suppose you also support slave trade, then, racism and the systematic genocide of Native Americans. May I also remind you that even AFTER the Shoah US villages in the Bible Belt (!!!!) sported entrance signs with ''No Jews wanted here''. Well, Israel has got its place in the Scriptures. Even Russia and Syria etc get a mention. But where are the United States???

kate

5/21/2007 4:18 PM

11 .

I was there

you can see photos on my blog:

http://ilias.blog.sme.sk/c/95675/Jeruzalemsky-pochod.html

miro ilias

5/21/2007 12:06 PM

12 .

Reasons

It seems like Messianic Jews get a real bashing, almost persecution from the orthodox. Why? They seem to carry the same message as orthodox Judaism. Faith in the promise from HaShem. The Messianics choose to believe that Jesus was and is(here now, btw). The Lubavitchers whom are orthodox put their chips on the late Rebbe M Schneerson, whom hopefully they can believe was more than likely Elijiah. Thus pulling these faiths together on a larger scale. This is actually more simple than everyone wants to make it. OK, so Moshiach is here and as the war of words would have it,,,,let''s argue over what his name is ) O Israel, stubborn Israel.

LingonSilt

5/18/2007 7:04 PM

13 .

Remember Abraham

Remember Abraham was justified by faith before Torah!
"Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God. Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law [is] the knowledge of sin.Romans 3.19-20

5/18/2007 4:25 PM

14 .

To Rick (cont.)

..differences between papalism and biblical fundamentalism. I have no doubt you will.

R: ..YHWH''''s criteria is not always blood sacrifice.

F: Is that statment from the Talmud? It cannot be from Torah. Consider, the Catholic "Talmud" teaches Jews were replaced by Catholic Gentiles, this doctrine paved the way for over 2000 years of genocides, pogroms, Inquistions, and Shoa. US was founded on Bible believing Christians rejecting such because it is not supported by the Tanakh or NT thus they fled EU from the same papal persecutions. Perhaps Jews need to weigh the Talmud against Tanakh, and if it does not fit, reject it as Bible believing Christians do.

R: .."instructions"..how to live out one''''s life with the Holy One of Israel and with one''''s fellow man. ..It is more than just believing..it is also the doing of Torah..

F: Absolutely correct. The caveat being Torah. See: Leviticus 17:11 and Hebrews 9:22 which Christ fulfilled according to: Isaiah 9:6, Micah 5:2, Zechariah

Faith

5/18/2007 9:36 AM

15 .

To Rick (cont.)

R: Read the book of Ya''''akov (James in the christian world).

F: I will re-read it. I use the "Complete Jewish Bible, KJV, NKJV, NIV, & JPS" for study with final authority of KJV (NT) & JPS for Tanakh. I have searched and considered scripture, history, archeology, eschatology, religions, anthropology, science, etc. for 30 years.

G-d bless!

See: http://need-messiah.blogspot.com/

Faith

5/18/2007 9:36 AM

16 .

To Rick (cont.)

Faith

5/18/2007 9:36 AM

17 .

To Rick (cont.)

Faith

5/18/2007 9:35 AM

18 .

To Rick (cont.)

..not papalism which is not 100% Bible belief.

It''s why I mentioned you blur the two. I''ve met many Jews who do. Simply put, 90% of the "Righteous Gentiles" of Israel are Bible believing Christians. Most don''t wear crosses, allow idols, pray to any other but Adonai through Yeshua, to or bow before anything. 90% of Jew persecuting Christians were papal whose roots are in ancient Rome''s paganism.

R: Sixth, at least 70% of the NT is either direct quotes, mistranslated quotes or references to the Tanakh. It begs the question that if these
same apostles lived out and taught the Tanakh faith, why does the church and, in particular, evangelical christians deny, disregard, and
explain away those same Scriptures today?

F: Not so. NT shows the only true "church" is individuals who adhere to Tanakh and NT through Yeshua. It appears time and study of scripture, religion, and history on your part is necessary, starting with the differences between papalism and biblical fundamentalism.

Faith

5/18/2007 9:33 AM

19 .

To Rick (cont.)

R: Most christians I am aware of are anti-Torah..

F: Are you in EU? EU Christianity is rife with Constantinian papalism. US Christianity is founded on Tanakh and NT, not papalism.

Consider how the two nations have historically treated Jews, see the stark differences.

R: These are the same ones that Yeshua said he would tell to leave him.

F: I completely agree if you''re referring to dyed in the wool papalists, oppressors of Jews, and despiser''s of Torah in spirit and practice (NT).

R: ..in what are christians followers of their Jesus today?

F: Loving God with all our hearts, our neighbors as ourselves. Favored love and support of Israel regardless their religious or non-religious status.

Again, this is a USA Evangelical Christian (Bible believers) phenomena not found near as prominent in any other country. Consider, Kennedy was the 1st Catholic President of the US, which raised great controversy given US founding on 100% Bible belief, not papalism whic

Faith

5/18/2007 9:31 AM

20 .

To Rick

Thanks for your reply.

When scripture is discussed, apple and orange comparisons, nomenclatures, and lack of knowledge on one or both sides often causes confusion and misunderstanding. The best place for those alleging scripture, Tanakh and NT, as final authority, is scripture.

You mentioned interesting points, where are they in scripture?

R: "...Tanakh speaks of more than one way to deal with sin. ..spells out two other(s).."

F: What? Where?

R: "..the prophets are very clear as to what one does when no Temple stands."

F: What? Where?

R: ..pagan church system teaches otherwise. ..straight Bible believer..in all probability..pagan in practice and belief. ..handed down from the Constantinian state church.

F: Are you aware of the difference between Evangelical (Bible believing) Christian and Catholicism? The latter sprang from the "Constantinian state church". The former from Tanakha and NT.

R: Most christians I am aware of are anti-Torah..<

Faith

5/18/2007 9:29 AM

21 .

To LIsa

What about the other house, Lisa? Where ae they in the picture?

Rick

5/17/2007 11:09 PM

22 .

To Faith Continued

Sixth, at least 70% of the NT is either direct quotes, mistranslated quotes or references to the Tanakh. It begs the question that if these same apostles lived out and taught the Tanakh faith, why does the church and, in particular, evangelical christians deny, disregard, and explain away those same Scriptures today?
Lastly, please search out the Hebrew Scriptures for yourself to determine whether or not you are following the right G-d. YHWH''s criteria is not always blood sacrifice. Torah means "instructions" or "teachings" which deal with how to live out one''s life with the Holy One of Israel and with one''s fellow man. It''s that simple. It is more than just believing, Faith, it is also the doing of Torah whereby one is proven righteous. Read the book of Ya''akov (James in the christian world).

Rick

5/17/2007 10:18 PM

23 .

To Faith

Thank you for your reply. I would like to respond with some thoughts.
First, Tanakh speaks of more than one way to deal with sin. It actually spells out two other mediums other than blood sacrifice.
Second, the prophets are very clear as to what one does when no Temple stands. And so, yes, it is possible to keep the Torah. It is only a pagan church system which teaches otherwise.
Third, to conclude from Tanakh that a particular verse is referring to Jesus, it must be read into and him painted into it. Read the Tanakh carefully and you will not find the Jesus of the church there.
Fourth, regardless if one calls oneself a straight Bible believer, they are, in all probability, very much pagan in practice and belief. This has been handed down from the Constantinian state church. Most christians I am aware of are anti-Torah people. These are the same ones that Yeshua said he would tell to leave him. Let me ask you, in what are christians followers of their Jesus today?
Fifth, most christians still d

Rick

5/17/2007 10:10 PM

24 .

gates

For a Jew, Torah points to Messiah. For a Gentile, Yeshua points to Torah. The Jew cannot understand Torah unless he is born again. A non-Jewish believer cannot live a holy lifestyle unless he is taught through what Torah what that entails, i.e. keeping kosher. (Even Acts teaches that the eating of blood is forbidden, and that as one of the bare minimums towards table fellowship with new non-Jewish converts.) But it''s great to follow te discussion below. It shows how God''s Spirit is stirring His children. BTW, Torah discussion is about thrashing out the truth, not lovy-diviness ''we are all one''.

kate

5/17/2007 3:29 PM

25 .

To Rick (cont.)

.. who would only read and study the Tanakh and the NT. NT is subject to Tanakh in spirit and in truth. When Christ and the Apostles spoke of G-d''s law they were speaking of Tanakh-Torah. NT hadn''t been written yet. Christ said, "not one jot or tittle would be removed from the Torah." He said, "Unless your righteousness EXCEEDS that of the Pharisees, you will by no means see the kingdom of heaven." Thus, Tanakh is clear G-d will accept NOTHING short of atonement. Torah proves man can NEVER approach G-d "AS IS". He must be covered per G-d''s criteria. He said He would send Messiah for this purpose (to save His people). Tanakh shows G-d is Spirit, so the Spirit (inward man-heart condition) is FIRST with G-d and that "life eternal" of which He speaks.

Faith

5/17/2007 5:41 AM

26 .

To Rick

If you could keep the whole Torah than you would have the Temple for atonement. As it is, the Temple has been without for 2000 years. Christians never promised Israel a Messiah "to take away their sins, and the sins of the world", the Jewish prophets of Tanakh did (Isaiah, Daniel, Ezekiel, etc.). Anyone who says Jews can keep Torah without the Temple sacrifices violates the whole Torah - atonement before a Holy God who said His "word (Torah) does not change. He also said that He himself would come to save His people Israel from their sin and a people who did not know Him would come to Him as well. Christ is that light of the world. Last, you blur papal paganism, falsely calling itself "Christian" with straight Bible believing Christians. The enemies of G-d sought long and hard to keep Jews from the truth of their Messiah. Those enemies were Rabbinic deniers of Christ and the genocidal Pharisees of papalism. Both proved effective for centuries, except to those Jews and Gentiles who would only read and study t

Faith

5/17/2007 5:32 AM

27 .

Messianics in Jerusalem Day Parade

Praise the L-rd for their courage and for their website! The fact is that if Yeshua is not the Messiah, then the Scriptures are broken for in Daniel 9:26 it says that Messiah must come, be killed, before destruction of the Temple. The Temple was destroyed in 70 AD. ALSO in Genesis 49:10 it says that "The scepter will not depart from Judah .....until Shiloh (Messiah) comes." (Scepter refers to the sovereign right of a nation to impose capital punishment. Rome removed that right from Israel in 30 AD. The same year that Yeshua was crucified and resurrected.)

So, Israeli''s: HINENI EL YESHUATI!

Behold, G-d is (Yeshua) your Salvation.

Suzie

5/17/2007 2:53 AM

28 .

grumbling &complaining

how sad not much has changed since the days of old and Jesus.
men still wage the war of words instead of openning and softening their hearts
meanwhile our enemy moves on in full force and it will be ous who let him.

chris

5/16/2007 9:34 PM

29 .

Messianics keep Torah

We do as our Messiah did, though we fall short. The Torah is Just and Holy and Good. Gentile believers in Yeshua Repent. He is the Way.

WillIAM

5/16/2007 8:09 PM

30 .

To Sarah

Deborah is simply restating the rhetoric of a pagan church system. It is possible to keep Torah and walk it out before our Creator. We are also told in Tehillim "In my heart I have stored Your word so that I would not sin against You." Follow G-d''s word, not that of a wayward, pagan system, Sarah.

Rick

5/16/2007 7:04 PM

31 .

To Deborah

You are not adhering to Scripture when you say no one could keep the law perfectly. First of all, it is not "the law" it is Torah which means instructions or teachings. These instructions or teachings are given to help anywho wish to know how to live in a relationship with the Holy One, and, with one''s fellow man. Secondly, Moshe in Torah tells us that Torah was not too high nor too low but so near that one could do it. It is possible to walk out Torah perfectly before YHWH. What you have said is the traditonal rhetoric of a pagan church system which has sought to throw away the teachings of YHWH G-d.

Rick

5/16/2007 6:49 PM

32 .

To Sarah

You are on the right track Sarah. If we could be considered righeous by keeping the law, then why did Christ die on the cross for our sins. Why didn''t he just say, keep the law and you shall live. The reason is, He knew we couldn''t keep the law as sons of Adam.
However, we are not given a liscense to sin just because we are under God''s grace today. To transgress the law, adultry, stealing etc. is still a sin and we have been saved from sin. God has given us of His Spirit to enable us to flee from sin.

Deborah

5/16/2007 6:41 PM

33 .

To Todd

Hi Todd,

Be careful as you study the Torah. Always remember that we are not under the law anymore. God''s Word says if you are justified by the law, you are obligated to keep the whole law. Which would mean temple worship. Also, the Bible says if you are justified by the law, then the grace of God is of no effect to you.
The law was our schoolmaster to teach us that we need a savior. No one can keep the law perfectly, except Christ Jesus. Paul said he counted all his religious righteousness as dung, that he may win Christ. If you remember, Paul was a pharasee, a religious zealot, who hated and persecuted the early Jewish believers and tried to destroy the name of Jesus. As Church age believers, we must obtain our doctrines from Paul. He said all men shall be judged according to MY GOSPEL.

Deborah

5/16/2007 6:30 PM

34 .

Doug :"He only taught against it when it went against Torah

Hence, Talmud is not holy, it is man made. ie invention. Why should messianics if they say they believe in the Holy Bible adhere to man made collection of teachings !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sarah

5/16/2007 5:29 PM

35 .

Half

Half of the word makes you half of a child and that is good for nothing. Half puts you outside of the city. With no entry. So how do you plan to offer on the alter if you are outside. Find the true Hashem of Israel while you still can. He will not accept pagan worship. Read what happened to Israel when they went north and Judah stayed south. Israel made up their own holidays at that point, then Hashem called them YOUR feast. He did not appoint them. The people who do not keep Torah do the same, change the times and seasons, Hashems appointed times are the same today as they were at creation! Leave HASATAN alone and get on board with the true Father of all, The El of Israel does not accept sunday worship, it is sun in the sky worship, wake up!!!

Doug

5/16/2007 5:04 PM

36 .

Old and New cont.

God they will obey Him. If they obey Him they will stay in the land. The Jews are in the land today because of God''s fulfillment of His own Word. We see, however, that Israel only has a small portion of the land and that they are in the land largely in unbelief. Not only are they in unbelief of God himself (most Jews are secular), but they are in unbelief of His Son, Yeshua, as well. One day, after much tribulation, the Jews will accept Yeshua as Messiah, and the entire land will be given to the Jews and Yeshua will reign over them as King.

Lisa

5/16/2007 4:31 PM

37 .

Messianic

It is useless to worship The true Father of all on sunday, it is pagan, jesus is a pagan greek g-d. I as Messianic would like to see our older brother teach the true light of the world-TORAH-if you truly believe, then you know that Jhon1:1 states TORAH is Yeshua the true light. First of all creation in Gen1:3. Also Yeshua keept most talmud, because He was a Jew. He only taught against it when it went against Torah, and that is very few in number. Wake up people time is very short. The threat in the north is real and its for Golan. How long until Damascus is gone? Not long at all is my guess. Its time to push the button. As a U.S. citizen I know we must fall for Israel to fully depend on the Father in Heaven. Then all of Israel shall be saved by Hashem.

Doug

5/16/2007 4:31 PM

38 .

Old and New

There is much benefit in studying the Old Testament and the law. We must follow the heart of the law and not necessarily the letter of the law. The Old Testament is the New Testament concealed, and the New Testament is the Old Testament revealed. Jesus taught from the scriptures which in His time on earth was the Old Testament since the New wasn''t written yet. Jesus taught that the 1st commandment was the greatest and the second one was like it. Love the Lord your God with all your heart, mind, soul and strength. Love your neighbor as yourself. Why? God made a covenant with Abraham that was unconditional. The land would belong to the Jewish people. This is only partially fulfilled as the land of Israel today is a small part of the entire land granted to Abraham. Israel''s presence in the land was conditional. Deut. 30:16-20. Israel must choose to follow God to remain in the land. The first commandment is key to the relationship between Israel and their God and between Israel and the land. If the people love

Lisa

5/16/2007 4:25 PM

39 .

The Church Must Repent

The church is blinded by their traditions. They have accepted the lies, falsehoods and futilities of their forefathers and have worshipped at another mountain, not Hashem''s holy hill. They must repent and return to the Holy One of Israel Who is forever one G-d. Praise be to Hashem.

Rick

5/16/2007 4:23 PM

40 .

confusion

Messianic Jews are not confused. They know where they belong: To our Jewish people and God''s Torah as much as Yeshua did. It is Christians who can''t make up their mind: Do they want to follow the God of Israel, or a paganised Messiah, and man-made festivals and commandments?
BTW, Talmud is NOT binding for the Messianic Jewish community.
Sarah, for your info: Torah was given TO Moses BY God. Torah was not Moses'' invention!

kate

5/16/2007 3:42 PM

41 .

The Torah will not pass away

As you seek the truth of the Torah (God''s teaching and instruction), you will find as Y''shua/Jesus taught in Matt 5:17 that He did not come to abolish the Torah but to complete it or perfect it. Seek God''s Word through the eyes of a Hebrew and you will find the joy of Torah. For we are saved by Y''shua''s sacrifice, but live righteously by Torah. Shalom.

Todd - a Christian pursuer of Torah

5/16/2007 3:39 PM

42 .

Messianics accepted half the Truth !!

I read about them in thier sites, they are regarded by most religious Israelis, as heretics and have faced harsh insults in many occasions.
My point of view is: why should they keep the Moses Law and some of hte Talmud if they really came to believe in Jesus!
There is a great confusion, haven''t they read the New Testament and especially Paul''s Epistle to Galatians.
They are quite in between Judasim and Christianity.

Sarah - Christian convert

5/16/2007 2:49 PM