that was to bring vengeance to
the Eternal Covenant,

that was raised against the blaspheming Philistine.

AND THE SWORD (THE WORD OF GOD) HAD TWO EDGES:

ONE TO REPLY TO THE BLASPHEMES -
AND ONE TO SLAY HIM.

Five of you will pursue a hundred, and a hundred of you
will pursue ten thousand,

AND YOUR ENEMIES WILL FALL BY THE SWORD BEFORE YOU (JEWS).*
Leviticus 26:8

*Many of them will fall by the hand of only a few [Rash MiShantz ad loc].

AND TOOK THENCE A STONE,*
*Knowledge of God

AND SLUNG IT,

and smote the Philistine in his forehead,

AND THE STONE (KNOWLEDGE OF GOD) SANK INTO HIS FOREHEAD,

AND HE FELL UPON HIS FACE TO THE EARTH.*

*And worshiped.

So David prevailed over the Philistine with a sling and with a stone, and smote the Philistine, and slew him,

BUT THERE WAS NO SWORD IN THE HAND OF DAVID.
I Sam. 17:49-50

casting fear and dread upon them until none was found who had
the ability to answer the Philistine
in an appropriate fashion.

The eyes of all Israel was focused
on the middle ground
between David and Goliath.

http://www.mechon-mamre.org/p/pt/pt08a17.htm

And these signs shall follow them that believe In my name shall they cast out devils they shall speak with new tongues Mark 16:17

Would that their tables WERE full of Christian Bibles, and that they would believe. They slander God''s Son, but one day they will not. Their knee, too, will bow in His presence and their tongues will confess that he is Lord. If the Lord does not tarry, many who are alive today will see His coming in the clouds with power and great glory and ALL Israel will repent and be saved. You can moan and carry on all you want, but you will not change the facts. Jesus/Yeshua IS LORD. He is SALVATION. He is the way, the truth, and the life. None can come to the Father except thru HIM. I suggest you repent Now and be saved - if it''s not too late for you, that is. It is written you can be forgiven blasphemy of God, or of His Son, but you cannot be forgiven blasphemy of the Rauch ha Kodesh. You have spoken many wicked words against Jesus. now or later, you WILL confess His Name

(Torah knowledge),

AND STAGGER THROUGH STRONG DRINK,

THE PRIEST AND THE PROPHET
REEL THROUGH STRONG
DRINK (knowledge of God),

THEY ARE CONFUSED BECAUSE
OF WINE,

THEY STAGGER BECAUSE OF STRONG DRINK.

THEY REEL IN VISION, THEY TOTTER IN JUDGMENT,

FOR ALL TABLES ARE FULL*

*OF CHRISTIAN BIBLES!

OF FILTHY VOMIT, AND NO PLACE IS CLEAN.

ISAIAH 28:7-8, A MESSIANIC PROPHECY

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Bible/Prophetstoc.html

THE CROWN OF THE PRIDE OF
THE DRUNKARDS OF EPHRAIM.

ON THAT DAY,*

*When the transgressors are destroyed.

THE LORD OF HOSTS SHALL BE
FOR A CROWN OF BEAUTY
AND FOR A DIADEM OF GLORY,

FOR THE REST OF HIS PEOPLE.*

*For the remaining righteous men
among them.

AND FOR A SPIRIT OFJUSTICE TO HIM WHO SITS IN JUDGMENT, *

*Will the Holy One, blessed be He, be, i.e., to teach justice,
to him who sits in judgment.

AND FOR MIGHT FOR THOSE
WHO BRING BACK
THE WAR TO THE GATE.*
Isaiah 28:3,5-6

*And for might will He be for
those who bring back
the war, the war of Torah.

*The King Messiah, who is referred
to as a poor man riding on
a donkey/Tribes, (Zechariah 9:9).

THE SOLES OF THE IMPOVERISHED.*
Isaiah 26:1-6

*Israel, who were heretofore impoverished.

that there be peace, peace, for they trusted in You.

TRUST IN THE LORD FOREVER,
FOR IN YAH THE LORD,
IS THE ROCK OF ETERNITY.*

*For we must rely on Him for
He is the fear of God, the
rock and everlasting shelter.

For He humbled the inhabitants of the high places, the fortified city,

He brings it low, he brings it
low even to the earth, he
makes it reach even to the dust.
Isaiah 26:3-5

THE CITY (JERUSALEM) THAT WAS OUR STRENGTH -

SALVATION SHALL HE PLACE
FOR WALLS AND A BULWARK.

OPEN THE GATES, SO THAT
A RIGHTEOUS NATION,

AWAITING THE REALIZATION
OF GOD''S PROMISE MAY ENTER.*
Isaiah 26:1-2

*I.e., open her gates, and let
a righteous Jewish nation,
awaiting, that waited and longed
in its exile many days -

- the faith of the Holy One, blessed be He, that He fulfill His promise through His prophets, to redeem them (Rashi).

any ''debate just beause we have been slow or failed to respond. Some of us just have a llife outside of this sensless bantering with someone who is such a hater of the truth.

The Lord will deffinately rebuke you for your hatred toward His Son, whom He sent to save all of us from our sins. You have slapped the face of God with your blatant twisting of His Word and your denial of His Son. The Messiah-ship of Jesus Christ in clearly shown in the Torah. You do not believe Moses if you do not believe Jesus,beause Moses wrote of Him. You are blind, deaf, andmany of the believers could only wish that you were MUTE.

BUT WE (THE JEWS) ARE RISEN AND STAND UPRIGHT.

SAVE, HASHEM, LET THE KING (GOD) ANSWER US -

IN THE DAY THAT WE CALL
Psalm 20:9-10

GREAT SALVATION GIVETH HE TO HIS KING,

AND SHOWETH MERCY TO HIS ANOINTED, TO DAVID AND
TO HIS SEED, FOR EVERMORE.
Psalm 18:51

Amen, Amen!

AND RIGHTEOUSNESS THE PLUMMET, (Deut. 6:25)

AND THE HAIL (GOD''S VOICE)
(Psalm 18:14)

SHALL SWEEP AWAY THE REFUGE OF LIES,*

*IDOLATRY (Christianity) WILL BE SWEPT AWAY.

AND THE WATERS (WORD OF GOD)
SHALL OVERFLOW

THE HIDING-PLACE (THE MIND).
Isaiah 28:17

I LAY IN ZION FOR A FOUNDATION A STONE, A TRIED STONE,

A COSTLY CORNER-STONE *

*"KNOWLEDGE OF GOD,"

OF SURE FOUNDATION...
Isaiah 28:16

* This alludes to Melech HaMashiach (Rashi) and to "Hezekiah"
(Metzudas David & RaDaK).

JUST LIKE THE CORNER-STONE
IS THE FOUNDATION FOR
THE ENTIRE BUILDING (THE TEMPLE),

SO THE RIGHTEOUS MESSIANIC KING
IS TH SECURE FOUNDATION -

- FOR EVERY BELIEVING ISRAELITE.

DOES WONDROUS THINGS.

BLESSED IS HIS GLORIOUS NAME FOREVER,

AND MAY ALL THE EARTH BE FILLED WITH HIS GLORY.

- AMEN AND AMEN.
Psalm 72:18-19

- SHALL ANSWER IT* FROM A BEAM,

*The Stone

FOR THE EARTH SHALL BE FILLED
WITH THE KNOWLEDE -

- OF THE GLORY OF THE LORD

AS THE WATERS COVERS THE SEABED.
Habakkuk 2:11,14

The ones who had both the sliver and the beam in the eye...

WILL ANSWER THE STONE (THE MOSHIACH, Knowledge of God).

Christians see the sliver in the eyes of the Jews, but don''t not see
the beam in their own eyes, and in fact the Christians have both :))

BECAME A GREAT MOUNTAIN,

AND FILLED THE WHOLE EARTH.
Daniel 2:35

WAS CUT OUT WITHOUT HANDS,

WHICH SMOTE THE IMAGE
(IDOLATRY)

Christ, who is the image of God.
2 Cor 4:4, Col 1:15

UPON ITS FEET,

THAT WERE OF IRON AND CLAY,
AND BROKE THEM TO PIECES.

THEN WAS THE IRON, THE CLAY,
THE BRASS, THE
SILVER AND THE GOLD,

BROKEN IN PIECES TOGETHER,

AND BECAME LIKE THE CHAFF
OF THE SUMMER
THRESHING-FLOORS

AND THE WIND CARRIED THEM AWAY,

SO THAT NO PLACE WAS FOUND FOR THEM.
Daniel 2:34-35

Those woud be the pharasses, Sadusses, & the Romans.
He was pierced forour transgressions, bruised for our iniquities....HE is Jesus the Lord, the Son of God. He died for our sins (yours too) You can quote (or misquote) Scripture all you want, but you are not going to destroy our faith in our mighty God & Savior. It is the saving blood of the Lamb of God that cleanses us. Jesus came 2000 years ago & was the final passover Lamb. He died for all our sins. He arose on the 3rd day & he sits at the right hand of the Father now. He will come again to claim His children. Sad, but you are not one of them at this time. There will be a lot of Jews in heaven - those who died before Jesus & were righteous, & those who believed in Jesus over the last 2000 years. Then, there are those Jews & others who are in HELL because of their unbelief. Where will you be?

BECAUSE THOU HAST REJECTED KNOWLEDGE,

I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to Me,

seeing thou hast forgotten the Law (the Torah) of thy God.
Hosea 4:6

Thus saith the LORD:

For three transgressions of Judah,
yea, for four, I will not reverse it:

BECAUSE THEY HAVE REJECTED THE LAW (THE TORAH) OF THE LORD,

AND HAVE NOT KEPT HIS STATUTES,

AND THEIR LIES HAVE CAUSED THEM TO ERR,

AFTER WHICH THEIR FATHERS DID WALK.
Amos 2:4

IS BECOME THE CHIEF CORNER-STONE.

THIS IS THE LORD''S DOING, IT IS MARVELLOUS IN OUR EYES.*
Psalms 118:22-23

*When David was crowned, all were amazed. David said,
“This has emanated from God!”

David was also rejected by his own father and brothers.

When the prophet Samuel announced that one of Jesses’
sons was to be anointed king,

not one of them even thought
of summoning David,
who was with the sheep...
(see 1 Samuel 16:4-13).

*KNOWLEDGE OF GOD

OUT OF THEM THE STAKE, OUT OF THEM THE BOW OF WAR.*

*For I bend Judah for Me like a bow, I filled the hand of Ephraim*

*Ephraim shall be as a quiver full
of arrows to Me.

and I will arouse your children, O Zion, upon your children, O Javan,

and I will make you as the sword
of a mighty man...
Zec. 9:13

OUT OF THEM SHALL COME EVERY OPPRESSOR TOGETHER.*

*All the leaders, out of them shall come their kings, their princes,
and those who wage their wars (Rashi).

AND THEY SHALL BE LIKE MIGHTY MEN, TREADING THE MIRE
OF THE STREETS IN BATTLE.

AND THEY SHALL WAGE WAR,
FOR THE LORD IS WITH THEM.

AND THEY SHALL SHAME THE RIDERS ON HORSES.*
Zec 10:3-5

*The house of Judah shall shame
the riders of horses who come to wage war with them. I.e. the victory
over the Christians/Muslims and the future downfall of Gog and Magog.

AND TURN UNTO HASHEM,

and all the kindreds of the nations shall worship before Thee.

For the kingdom is HaShem''S, and He is the ruler over the nations.

All the fat ones of the earth
shall eat and worship,

all they that go down to the dust shall kneel before Him,

EVEN HE THAT CANNOT KEEP HIS SOUL ALIVE.*
Psalm 22:28-30

*The prosperous nations, who were all destined to the grave and for mortality, will return to God and their repentance will be accepted (Meiri)

But there are those among them
who will descend to the grave
and whose souls He will not revive,

even though thy now kneel before Him. These are the ones whose hands are stained with Jewish blood (Radak).

hasten to help me.

Deliver my soul from the sword,
mine only one from
the power of the dog.

Save me from the lion''s mouth,
yea, from the horns of the
wild-oxen do Thou answer me.

I will declare Thy name unto my brethren, in the midst of the congregation will I praise Thee.

''''Ye that fear HaShem, praise Him,
all ye the seed of Jacob,

glorify Him, and stand in awe of Him, all ye the seed of Israel.
Psalm 22:20-24

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Bible/jpstoc.html

Because of You is my praise in
the great congregation,
I pay my vows in the presence
of those who fear Him.

THE HUMBLE SHALL EAT
AND BE SATED,
THEY SHALL PRAISE THE LORD,*

*At the time of our redemption in the days of our Messiah, who will return the Jews to the land of Israel, rebuild the Holy Temple and usher in the utopian Messianic Era.

THOSE WHO SEEK HIM, YOUR HEARTS SHALL LIVE FOREVER.*
Psalm 22:26-27

for there is none to help.

Many bulls have encompassed
me, strong bulls of Bashan
have beset me round.

They open wide their mouth
against me, as a
ravening and a roaring lion.

For dogs have encompassed me,
a company of evil-doers have inclosed me, like a lion, they are
at my hands and my feet.
Psalm 22:11-13,17

Notice how king David is using the animal motif to describe his
enemies in the verses immediately
before and after Psalm 22:17(16).

In the surrounding verses of Psalm 22:17(16), the Psalmist looks to God for deliverance from his enemies whom he identifies as a – lion and a dog.

Isaiah 38:13.

http://mechon-mamre.org/p/pt/pt1038.htm

In the immediate context of this verse Hezekiah, the king of Judah,

is singing a song for deliverance from his grave illness.

In the midst of his supplication he exclaims in Hebrew Notice that
the last word in this phrase (moving from right to left) is the same Hebrew word kaari that appears in Psalm 22:17.

In this Isaiah text, the King James Version correctly translates these words "I reckoned till morning, that, as a lion, ..." ("Like a lion", NKJ)

Psalm 22:17 is the only place in all
of the Jewish scriptures that
any Christian Bible translates KAARI as "pierced."

MORE ON THE CHRISTIAN REWRITING OF THE
WORDS OF KING DAVID:

http://www.outreachjudaism.org/like-a-lion.html

he would never use the Hebrew word kaari. Instead, he would
have written either DAGAR or RATZA,

which are common Hebrew words in the Jewish scriptures.

Needless to say, the phrase "they pierced my hands and my feet" is
a Christian contrivance that appears nowhere in the Jewish scriptures.

The word KAARI כָּאֲרִי can be found
in a number of other
places in the Jewish scriptures.

Yet predictably, the same Christian translators who rendered KAARI as "pierced" in Psalm 22 correctly translated it "like a lion" in all other places in the Hebrew Bible where this word appears.

a company of evil-doers have inclosed me,

LIKE A LION, THEY ARE AT MY HANDS AND MY FEET.
Psalm 22:17(16)

When the original words of Psalm 22:17 are read,

ANY ALLUSION TO A CRUCIFIXION DISAPPEARS!

The ion of the word "pierced" into the last clause of this verse
is a not-too-ingenious Christian interpolation that was crea-ted by deliberately mistranslating the Hebrew word KAARI as "pierced."

The word kaari, כָּאֲרִי does not mean "pierced,"
it means "like a lion."

The end of Psalm 22:17, therefore, properly reads "like a lion
they are at my hands and my feet."

הִקִּיפוּנִי כָּאֲרִי, יָדַי וְרַגְלָי.

http://mechon-mamre.org/p/pt/pt2622.htm

For dogs have surrounded Me.
The congregation of
the wicked has enclosed Me.

THEY PIERCED MY HANDS AND MY
FEET !!!
Psalm 22:16 NKJ

CORNERSTONE.
Acts 4:12 - "And ther is salvation in no one else for there is no other name under heaven by which we must be saved" [but the Name of Yeshua/Jesus]
"for if ye believe that I[Yeshua/Jesus] am not He, ye shall die in your sin." don''t be like the rich man who died & went to hell while the beggar at the gate went to father Abraham. It is your choice - make the right one.

forsaken me? if from Psalm 22 :1 (not vs 2). Further, verses 16 (later portion), 17 & 18 continue with "They pierced my hands & feet. I can count my bones. They look and stare at me They divide my garments among them, & my for my clothing they cast lots." YESHUA fulfilled all these and many, many more Scriptures from the Tanakh. Yeshua was, is and always will be the Son of God. Every knee will bow, every tongue confess that Yeshua is Lord - now, or later, but it will come to pass for all. So much better to confess this now as opposed to later.

into the New Testament,

where Jesus’ supposed last exclamation on the cross is:

Eli, Eli, lamah azovtani... - is lifted from the lips of King David
and placed n the mouth of Jesus
by the first two Gospel writers.

It comes from Psalm 22:2 and it is King David, who is its author and
the one speaking throughout this chapter.

And about the ninth hour Jesus
cried out with a loud voice,
saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?

that is, My God, My God, why have You forsaken Me?
Matt 27:46

WHO WAS JESUS?

http://www.outreachjudaism.org/whojesus.html

אֵלִי אֵלִי, לָמָה עֲזַבְתָּנִי

My God, my God, why hast Thou forsaken me, and art far from
my help at the words of my cry?

O my God, I call by day, but Thou answerest not, and at night,
and there is no surcease for me.

Yet Thou art holy, O Thou
that art enthroned
upon the praises of Israel.

In Thee did our fathers trust,
they trusted, and
Thou didst deliver them.

Unto Thee they cried,
and escaped,

in Thee did they trust,
and were not ashamed.

But I am a worm, and no man,
a reproach of men,

AND DESPISED OF THE PEOPLE.
Psalm 22:2-7

http://www.mechon-mamre.org/p/pt/pt2622.htm

I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.

*In a land of darkness, desert.
The morbid valley (of death)
a characterization of all exiles.

Alternatively, it is a place so dangerous, that it is as
dark and forbidding as the grave.

AND WHERE THE LIGHT IS AS DARKNESS.
Job 10:22

I WILL FEAR NO EVIL FOR YOU -
- ARE WITH ME,

Your rod and Your staff -
- they comfort me.*

*The pains that came upon me,
and the support, that I rely
upon Your loving kindness, both
of them will comfort me,

for they will serve to expiate my iniquity, and I am confident
that You will set a table before me.

You set a table before me in the presence of my adversaries,

You anointed my head with oil,
my cup overflows...

May only goodness and kindness pursue me all the days of my life,

and I will dwell in the House -
- of the Lord for length of days.
Psalm 23:4-6

IF THEREFORE YOUR EYE IS GOOD,
YOUR WHOLE BODY
WILL BE FULL OF LIGHT.

BUT IF YOUR EYE IS BAD,
YOR WHOLE BODY
WILL BE FULL OF DARKNESS.

IF THEREFORE THE LIGHT THAT
IS IN YOU IS DARKNESS,
HOW GREAT IS THAT DARKNESS!
Matthew 6:22-23

EVERYONE WHO DOES EVIL HATES
THE LIGHT (THE TORAH),

AND WILL NOT COME INTO THE LIGHT FOR FEAR THAT
HIS DEEDS WILL BE EXPOSED.
John 3:20 NIV

THEREFORE TAKE HEED THAT THE LIGHT WHICH IS IN YOU,

IS NOT DARKNESS.

IF THEN YOUR WHOLE BODY IS FULL OF LIGHT,
HAVING NO PART DARK,

THE WHOLE BODY WILL BE FULL
OF LIGHT,

AS WHEN THE BRIGHT SHINING
OF A LAMP GIVES YOU LIGHT.
Luke 11:35-36

Be blessed.

With love in Christ Jesus.

suggestions!!! Hope your Sabbath was wondrful.

And Jesus answered and said unto him, Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve. Luke 4:8

Do it in genuine love of Christ and His word, not for ''one upmanship''. And the enemy must flee since it can''t tolerate the truth and praises of Christ going forward.

“Ah Lord GOD! behold, thou hast made the heaven and the earth by thy great power and stretched out arm, and there is nothing too hard for thee:”- Jeremiah 32:17

www.biblegateway.com

I agree with your posts re: Rebeka but I''m preparing for Sabbath now and must get back to work. I''ll pray for her now. The only thing that can help here is prayer (likely fasting) and posting on this board verbatim scripture *in the post headlines and signature line* so her eyes cannot avoid God''s verbatim word. It''s His word alone which effects the prompting and/or upset in the spirit to either repentance or damnation. If your hearts are truly moved by this and your souls say, In Jesus'' name No!'' to the blasphemies and obvious sufferage of the sinning soul - post verbatim scripture in the headings and signature lines here. Keep it up standing on the verbatim word of God and WATCH! Him work!

God bless.

prayer. I am afraid she is coming very close to stepping over the line into a place where she can no longer be forgiven. Making this even worse is the fact that she turned away from Yeshua. She is claiming that Yeshua is not the Son of God, that he is false, and grouping Christians and Messianics in with mulsims - even gone so far to say that muslims may even be a bit better. I feel bad for her. Her hope of salvation is slipping away quickly, and she refuses to see it. There comes a time when God turns away from a person and it is too late for them. I am afraid that Rebekkah may already have reached that point, but let''s pray unceasingly, maybe it''s not too late for her.

Luke 13:5 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.
6 ¶He spake also this parable A certain man had a fig tree planted in his vineyard and he came and sought fruit thereon, and found none.
7 Then said he unto the dresser of his vineyard, Behold, these three years I come seeking fruit on this fig tree, and find none: cut it down why cumbereth it the ground?
8 And he answering said unto him, Lord, let it alone this year also, till I shall dig about it, and dung it:
9 And if it bear fruit, well: and if not, then after that thou shalt cut it down.

While a few of them hide, the rest encircle the prey and herd it
to where the lions are waiting,

squatting in the high length grass.

It is normal for the female lions (lionesses) to hunt instead of the male lions. But the males hunt on their own when they discover prey.

The cubs in the pride find out
how to hunt by
observing the adults in action.

Students of the Torah are called children.

AND THE LAD SAMUEL WAS SERVING THE LORD BEFORE ELI.
I Samuel 3:1

When Shmuel first heard God''s call, he thought it was Eli, for
"your fear of your teacher should
be like the fear of Heaven".

Before one can be a prophet, one must first be the assiduous student of a Torah sage and a Tzaddik.

Were the Mitzvoth transmitted by Moses, intended by God to be observed for all time, or temporarily?

Christians says, Jews no longer
need to keep the Mitzvoth -
- because Jesus fulfilled them,
and we are now under the New Covenant.

ARE THESE CLAIMS VALID?

DO THEY ACCURATELY PORTRAY THE MESSAGE OF
THE JEWISH SCRIPTURES?

RABBI TOVIA SINGER ANSWERS THESE QUESTIONS IN THIS
MUST LISTEN TO PROGRAM:

http://www.outreachjudaism.org/biblical.html

GOD''S SANCTIFICATION OF AARON AND HIS DESCENDANTS
IS TO SERVE HIM IN THE HOLY TEMPLE AS THE EMMISSARIES
OF THE PEOPLE OF ISRAEL.

AND YE SHALL BE UNTO ME

A KINGDOM OF PRIESTS, AND A HOLY NATION.
Exodus 19:6

AND YOU SHALL BE CALLED THE PRIESTS OF THE LORD,

''SERVANTS OF OUR GOD'' SHALL BE SAID OF YOU,

THE POSSESSIONS OF THE NATIONS YOU SHALL EAT,

AND WITH THEIR GLORY YOU SHALL SUCCEED THEM.*

*You shall enter in their stead into the glory they have taken until now.

Instead of your shame, which was twofold, and your disgrace,
which they would bemoan as their lot,

therefore, in their land they shall inherit twofold,

THEY SHALL HAVE EVERLASTING JOY.
Isaiah 61:6-7

The Commandments of the Torah have no expiration date.

The author of the Book of Hebrews relegates the Torah''s life-giving Commandments to obsolescence
and concludes:

In that He says, "A new covenant," He has made the first obsolete.

Now what is becoming obsolete
and growing old -
- is ready to vanish away.
Hebrews 8:13 NKJ

The author of the Book of Hebrews
pronounces that the covenant
God made with the Jewish people
has expired.

The Jewish people no longer
have to keep the
commandments of the Torah.

But in contrast to the message
of Hebrews 8:13,

the life-giving Commandments of the Torah have no expiration date!

Moses declared that these Commandments -
- are forever and ever.

http://www.outreachjudaism.org/jeremiah31.html

of the Torah.

IN FACT CHRISTIANS REJECTED
THE TORAH, IN COMPLETE OPPOSITION TO THIS PROPHESY!

BETWEEN THE HOUSE OF DAVID AND THE TEN TRIBES -

UNDER THE LEADERSHIP OF EPHRAIM WILL BE HEALED.

HE WILL RULE WHEN THE JEWISH PEOPLE WILL OBSERVE
GOD''S COMMANDMENTS:

AND MY SERVANT DAVID SHALL BE KING OVER THEM,

AND THEY SHALL ALL HAVE ONE SHEPHERD,

THEY SHALL ALSO WALK IN MINE ORDINANCES, AND OBSERVE
MY STATUTES, AND DO THEM.
Ezekiel 37:24

AND THERE SHALL BE A PRIEST BEFORE HIS (David''s) THRONE,

AND THE COUNCEL OF PEACE SHALL BEBETWEEN THEM BOTH.
Zec. 6:13

it certainly borrowed its contents.

The Quran and Moslem beliefs generally - as distinct from its practices and rituals - are based almost entirely on the values and ideas of the Torah.

There is nothing wrong in
borrowing books,
ideas, culture and knowledge.

The wrong comes when the borrowing is not acknowledged
recognized and/or appreciated
(Rabbi Wein).

http://www.rabbiwein.com/Weekly-Parsha/2008/07/274.html

with God!

The greatest book borrowers from the Jewish people have been
the two other major monotheistic religions, Christianity and Islam.

Christianity borrowed the socalled
"Old Testament"
whole cloth from the Jews.

It is ironic in the extreme that
the gratitude shown
by the borrower to the lender

of this basis of monotheistic belief and worldview has been expressed
in unending centuries of enmity discrimination and persecution...

through Jesus of Nazareth, and the Christian idolatrous tradition.

JEWS KNOW AND SERVE GOD
THROUGH THE TORAH
AND THE JEWISH TRADITION.

Muslims "know" and serve God through Allah and his
messenger Muhammed and the Islamic idolatrous tradition.

Rebekah does need prayer. She''s gone from being a believer in Yeshua to being a tool of satan, standing on a platform spewing forth deception.

You can be sure Rebekah has read IS. 53 and PS. 22. She misinterprets these Scriptures regularly. Nice try, brother, but this one needs a lot of prayer!

Maybe you should read your own book more. You are good at quotes but, I believe you are blinded by your enemy satan who is mentioned in Genesis as the person who tempted Eve and Adam. Of course if you don''t believe in who he is, it wouldn''t be hard to decieve you. Would love to have you on our side, you have a desire and knowledge. I hope you will sometime read and understand the New Testament. The God I serve is also the God of the Jews. Do you ever read Isaiah 53 or Psalms 22? A good read and would enjoy your comments. Shalom

the dispersed of Israel,

I SHALL GATHER TO HIM EVEN MORE THAN THOSE
ALREADY GATHERED TO HIM.*
Isaiah 56:8

*I will yet gather of the heathens
of the nations who will convert
and join them, in addition to the gathered ones of Israel (Rashi).

IN ADDITION TO THE EXILED JEWS,
MANY GENTILE CONVERTS
WILL RALLY TO MOSHIACH!

http://www.aish.com/shabbat/

TO SERVE HIM AND TO LOVE
THE NAME OF HASHEM
TO BECOME SERVANTS UNTO HIM,

ALL WHO GUARD THE SABBATH
AGAINST DESECRATION,
AND GRASP MY COVENANT TIGHTLY -

- I WILL BRING THEM TO MY HOLY MOUNTAIN, AND I WILL
GLADDEN THEM IN MY HOUSE OF PRAYER,

THEIR ELEVATION-OFFERINGS AND THEIR FEAST OFFERINGS
WILL FIND FAVOR ON MY ALTAR,

FOR MY HOUSE WILL BE CALLED A HOUSE OF PRAYER
FOR ALL THE PEOPLES.*
Isaiah 56:6-7

*Not only for Israel, but also for
the proselytes.

BLESSING AND CURSE,

AND YOU SHALL CHOOSE LIFE,
SO THAT YOU WILL LIVE,
YOU AND YOUR OFFSPRING –

TO LOVE HASHEM, YOUR GOD,
TO LISTEN TO HIS VOICE
- AND TO CLEAVE TO HIM,

FOR HE IS YOUR LIFE AND THE LENGTH OF YOUR DAYS,

TO DWELL UPON THE LAND
THAT HASHEM SWORE
TO YOUR FOREFATHERS,

TO ABRAHAM, TO ISAAC, AND
TO JACOB TO GIVE THEM.
Deuteronomy 30:19-20

THE CHOICE OF WHETHER OR NOT TO ACCEPT THE TORAH -

-IS NOTHING LESS THAN THE
CHOICE BETWEEN BLESSING OR CURSE, EVERLASTING LIFE OR DEATH, GOOD OR EVIL.

- YOUR CHOICE!

AND A CURSE.

THE BLESSING, THAT YOU WILL HEED THE COMMANDMENTS
OF THE LORD YOUR GOD, WHICH I COMMAND YOU TODAY,*

*The blessing on the condition that you listen and obey.

AND THE CURSE, IF YOU WILL NOT HEED THE COMMANDMENTS
OF THE LORD YOUR GOD, BUT
TURN AWAY FROM THE WAY I COMMAND YOU THIS DAY,*

TO FOLLOW OTHER GODS, WHICH YOU DID NOT KNOW.
Deuteronomy 11:26-28

*If you depart from the way that I command you this day, to follow other gods (Jesus, Allah etc.)

This teaches that whoever worships idols departs from the entire path that Israel has been commanded.

From here our Rabbis said:

One who acknowledges the divinity of pagan deities is as though
he denies the entire Torah (Sifrei).

AND THE GOOD,

AND THE DEATH AND THE EVIL,

THAT WHICH I COMMAND YOU TODAY, TO LOVE
HASHEM, YOUR GOD,*

*One expresses love of God by performiing His commandments purely out of love.

TO WALK IN HIS WAYS, TO OBSERVE HIS COMMANDMENTS,

HIS DECREES, AND HIS ORDINANCES,
THEN YOU WILL LIVE
AND YOU WILL MULTIPLY,

AND, HASHEM, YOUR GOD,
WILL BLESS YOU IN THE
LAND TO WHICH YOU COME,

- TO POSSESS IT.
Deuteronomy 30:15-16

BEHOLD I PLACE BEFORE YOU
THE WAY OF LIFE -

- AND THE WAY OF DEATH.
Jeremiah 21:8

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Utilizing a thorough presentation
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differ on the subject of Satan.

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DOES JUDAISM BELIEVE IN ORIGINAL SIN?

WHAT DOES THE BIBLE REALLY SAY?

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TO CHOOSE BETWEEN GOOD -
- AND EVIL.

Behold, I have set before you today life and good, and death and evil,
(Your choice!)
Deuteronomy 30:15

THIS FREE MORAL WILL, CAN
BE MORE POWERFUL
THAN THE EVIL INCLINATION.*

*The desire to sin.

HUMANS CAN DECIDE
FOR THEMSELVES
HOW TO ACT, GOOD OR BAD.

REAL OR IMAGINARY, WITCHCRAFT IS FORBIDDEN BECAUSE
IT TRICKS BOTH THE USER AND THE FOLLOWER -

INTO BELIEVING THAT THERE ARE POWERS AT WORK -
- SEPARATE FROM GOD.

IT IS AN ATTEMPT TO CAUSE PEOPLE TO STRAY FROM GOD,

AND TO FOLLOW OTHER
"POWERS."

SEEK THEM NOT OUT, TO BE DEFILED BY THEM:*

*YOU SHALL NOT SEEK TO OCCUPY YOURSELVES WITH
THESE TYPES OF SORCERY,

FOR IF YOU DO OCCUPY YOURSELVES WITH THEM,

YOU WILL BECOME DEFILED BEFORE ME SAYS GOD,

AND I WILL DEEM YOU ABOMINABLE.
I AM THE LORD YOUR GOD.*

*KNOW WHOM (GOD) YOU ARE EXCHANGING FOR WHOM I.E.,
YOU WOULD BE EXCHANGING -

"THE LORD YOUR GOD" FOR THESE FUTILE SORCERIES,
[Torath Kohanim 19:79]

NEITHER SHALL YE PRACTICE DIVINATION NOR SOOTHSAYING.
Leviticus 19:26,31

AND AN EVIL SPIRIT FROM THE LORD FRIGHTENED HIM.

AND SAUL''S SERVANTS SAID TO HIM, "BEHOLD NOW,

AN EVIL SPIRIT OF GOD IS FRIGHTENING YOU.

Let our lord say (your servants
are before you), ''''Let them
seek a man who knows how to play on the harp'''',

and it will be, that when the evil spirit of God is upon you,

he will play with his hand, and
it will be good for you."

And it would be, that when the spirit of God was upon Saul,

that David would take the harp,
and would play with his hand,

and Saul would be relieved, and it would be good for him,

THE SPIRIT OF EVIL WOULD DEPART FROM HIM.
1 Samuel 16:14-16,23

AND THE INHABITANTS OF SHECHEM.

*A SPIRIT OF HATRED.

AND THE INHABITANTS OF SHECHEM
BETRAYED ABIMELECH.

AND ALL THE WICKEDNESS OF
THE MEN OF SHECHEM,

GOD REQUITED UPON THEIR HEADS,

AND THERE CAME UPON THEM -
THE CURSE OF JOTAM -

THE SON OF JERUBBAAL.
Judges 9:23,57

AND ANOINTED HIM (DAVID) IN THE MIDST OF HIS BROTHERS.

AND A SPIRIT OF THE LORD*

*A SPIRIT OF VALIANCE.

PASSED OVER DAVID FROM THAT DAY FORTH...
1 Samuel 16:13

Astronomers are just men and men make mistakes. Like to have a dollar for each one I have ever made. I could move to Israel and get a nice place in Jerusalem or Tel-Aviv. If I lived daily under the pressure of being hated by the people in the countries all around me I would wonder when I see something that looks like it could be a incoming missle? No fear of UFO''s, there are not any little green men with huge black eyes coming to visit. Do I believe people have seen these creatures? Yes I do and I believe they are spirits jor fallen angels and not from other planets. Just my opinion. Pray for the peace of Jerusalem.

Thanks for your comments, brother!!!

are the horns of a re''em.

*God said to Moses: “And you shall give some of your majesty
to him”- Joshua (Num. 27:20).

The ox is powerful, but its horns are not beautiful, on the other hand,
a re’em has beautiful horns, but it is not powerful.

Moses thus blessed Joshua with the power of an ox and the beauty
of a re’em ''s horns (Sifrei 33:17).

WITH THEM, HE WILL GORE PEOPLES TOGETHER
THROUGHOUT ALL THE ENDS
OF THE EARTH -

these are the myriads of Ephraim, and these are the
thousands of Manasseh."
Deuteronomy 33:17

*THE LOST TRIBES, THE CHRISTIAN ZIONISTS, MESSIANIC JEWS.

by the Lord, with the sweetness
of the heavens with dew,
and with the deep that lies below,

and with the sweetness of the produce of the sun, and with
the sweetness of the moon''s yield,

and with the crops of early mountains, and with
the sweetness of perennial hills,

and with the sweetness of the land and its fullness, and through
the contentment of the One Who dwells in the thornbush.

May it come upon Joseph''s head -

and upon the crown of the one separated from his brothers.
Deuteronomy 33:13-16

of my parents, the ends of the everlasting hills.

May they come to Joseph''s head -

and to the crown of the head
of the one who was
separated from his brothers.
Genesis 49:26

ARE MENTIONED IN ORDER TO RESTORE THEIR CROWNS
TO THEM, AS IT IS STATED IN
THE BEGINNING OF THE BOOK OF ZECHARIAH 4:14

“These are the two anointed ones who stand before
the Lord of all the earth.”

KNOW YOUR BIBLE

http://www.azamra.org/NaCh.shtml

The family of the house of David apart, and their wives apart,

the family of the house of Nathan* apart, and their wives apart.

*the prophet. Some say that it refers to Nathan the son of David,
II Sam. 5:14: “Shammua and Shobab, and Nathan and Solomon.”

The family of the house of Levi* apart, and their wives apart,

*THE PRIESTS AND THE LEVITES.

the family of the Shimeites* apart, and their wives apart.

*Shammua the son of David. Scripture first makes a generality about the house of David,
and then it specifies each one.

All the remaining families*-every family apart, and their wives apart.
Zechariah 12:12-14

*Of the house of David.

I PRAY YOU, THIS DREAM WHICH I HAVE DREAMED:

FOR, BEHOLD, WE WERE BINDING SHEAVES IN THE FIELD, AND, LO,

MY SHEAF AROSE, AND ALSO STOOD UPRIGHT,

AND, BEHOLD, YOUR SHEAVES CAME ROUND ABOUT,
AND BOWED DOWN TO MY SHEAF.

AND HIS BRETHREN SAID TO HIM:

"SHALT THOU INDEED REIGN OVER US?

OR SHALT THOU INDEED HAVE DOMINION OVER US?"
Gen. 37:6-8

Comments 13,14,36,50-52,54-57

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/126721

*ESAU WAS A CUNNING HUNTER, A MAN OF THE FIELD.

AND JACOB WAS A QUIET MAN, DWELLING IN TENTS.*
Genesis 25:27

*Jacob went to study of Torah,
Esau went to the house of idols.

AND HE (ISHMAEL)* DWELT
IN THE WILDERNESS,
AND BECAME AN ARCHER.
Genesis 21:20

*His name was to be "God Hears."

# 54

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/125368

RUTH CAME TO GATHER SHEAVES -
- AFTER THE REAPERS...

against Jerusalem together with
the nations will be the very
ones who will become the fiery torch that will actually turn against the nations and destroy them,

when they see that the hand of HaShem is against the nations.

This implies that at the climax of the war of Gog and Magog there
will be a Jewish rebellion against the nations, and that this is what will turn the scales.

On that day I will make the princes of Judah as a fiery stove among wood, and as a brand of fire among sheaves...

And they shall consume on the right and on the left all the nations r
ound about, and Jerusalem shall still stay in its place in Jerusalem.
Zechariah 12:6

*when they see that the others who were gathered are plagued with this plague, and they are saved.

"The inhabitants of Jerusalem
were my strength through
the Lord of Hosts, their God.*
Zechariah 12:5

*The inhabitants of Jerusalem, who know that we came
upon them against our will,

strengthened my help with their prayer by the Lord, their God...

with bewilderment, and its rider
with madness.*

*Smite every horse of those gathered there with bewilderment and blindness, and their riders
with madness (Shem , Ephraim, Lost Tribes).

And upon the house of Judah I will open My eyes,*

*But upon the members of the house of Judah, who are among those gathered against their will,

I will open My eyes to protect them from this plague.

and all the horses of the peoples I will smite with blindness.
Zechariah 12:4

Jerusalem a stone of burden*
for all peoples*

*A stone of burden placed upon men by order of the ruler, to carry
it and to load it on their shoulders.

It is very heavy, to the extent that all who bear it become gashed.

ALL WHO BEAR IT* SHALL BE GASHED,

*The stone, Messiah, Knowledge of God.

AND ALL THE NATIONS OF THE EARTH SHALL GATHER ABOUT IT.
Zechariah 12:3

*This is the completion of the word that he began to speak about
the retribution of those who devour Israel - Esau and his ilk.

Says the Lord, Who stretches out the heavens and founds the
earth and forms the spirit of man within him:

Behold! I am making Jerusalem
a cup of weakness
for all the peoples around,

and also on Judah,* that he shall be
in the siege against Jerusalem.
Zechariah 12:1-2

*The nations that will be in siege against Jerusalem will impose
upon Judah, for the house of David will be inside and the gentiles will besiege them...

And also, the children of Judah
will come, against their
will, to besiege Jerusalem.

Read Zech. 12:1-3 again (Only now without the aid of your silly websites!). We see Messiah in v. 4 and following.

Now I see.The time has come.Israel, fear not.The love of your God is unconditional.YHWH is faithfull to the Covenant with Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.What we are saying NOW, is from real experience with God.We have tasted His goodness.Of course, we Know what is to suffer, to be persecuted, to be misunderstood.We know that.This is the reason why, we can assure you, O Israel that the end of your abilities is the begining of God´s abilities.The end of your wilsdon and capacity, is the beginning of God´s wisdom and capacity.Israel, remember 1948,1949,1967, 1973.How could you survive without your God, O Israel?THE ALMIGHTY GOD OF ISRAEL IS REAL.NOBODY CAN BE IN ISRAEL, WITHOUT KNOWING THAT GOD IS REAL.

the camp of the saints (the Jews) and the beloved city.*

*Jerusalem

AND FIRE CAME DOWN FROM GOD OUT OF HEAVEN
AND DEVOURED THEM.

The devil, who deceived them, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone where the beast* and
the false prophet (Jesus) are.

*FOURTH BEAST, I.E. ROME, EDOM, ESAU (REPRESENTED BY CHRISITANITY, DANIEL 7:7

FOURTH KINGDOM (CHRISTIANITY, ISLAM), DANIEL 2:40

AND THEY WILL BE TORMENTED,
DAY AND NIGHT FOREVER AND EVER.
Revelation 20:7-10 NKJ

Satan will be released from his prison and will go out to deceive
the nations* which are in the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog,

*The nations in the Bible refers to the Lost Tribes, mainly
Christians or Messianic "Jews."

to gather them together to battle, whose number is
as the sand of the sea.*
Revelation 20:8 NKJ

*Yet the number of the children
of Israel Shall be
as the sand of the sea,
Hosea 1:10 NKJ

I have been saying:everythinmg that is going to happen in and to Israel, aims to awaken Israel, concerning the reall intentions of their fierce enemies and the need return to God in repentance.It is time to trust the LORD GOD of Heaven.Our God is the God of Israel.We rely and trust in Him.

will be gathered against the Jewish people, and will
besiege the Jerusalem...

This siege is part of a tremendous war, the spiritual
war of Gog and Magog.

THE JEWS SHALL FIGHT BACK AGAINST THE ENEMY NATIONS,

AND THE JEWS SHALL BE VICTORIUS!

http://www.messiahtruth.com/zech12.html

NOT MESSIAH! Look at the context of Zechariah 12:1-3. Your comments are clearly ANTICHRIST and ANTICHRISTIAN heresy! Repent NOW! Come to Messiah before it is too late (John 3:16).

THAT THEIR FEAR OF GOD
EXCEEDED THEIR
FEAR OF THE EGYPTIANS,

WOULD BE DEEMED WORTHY
TO HAVE THEIR HOMES
PASSED OVER DURING THE TENT AND FINAL PLAGUE.

http://www.outreachjudaism.org/passoverlamb.html

TO SHOW THEIR WORTHINESS
TO PARTICIPATE IN THE
EXODUS FROM EGYPT (IDOLATRY),
(Hosea 11:1-2)

TO RECEIVE THE TORAH AT
MOUNT SINAI,

and to become the progenitors
of the Covenant people
who would forever be known

AS A LIGHT UNTO THE NATIONS.

that every Jewish household had slain their god.

THE PURPOSE FOR THE BLOOD ON THE DOORPOST AS A WITNESS
OF JEWISH OBEDIENCE TO HASHEM

AND DEFIANCE OF THE EGYPTIAN LAMB GOD!

were enslaved, the lamb was considered a sacred god.

And to molest a lamb in any
way was considered
a crime punishable by death.

In Exodus 8:26, Moses explained
to Pharaoh that if the Israelites
were to kill these animals, before
the Egyptians they would be stoned to death.

The Almighty, therefore, used this to test the faithfulness of the
Jewish people by commanding them to not only kill Egypt''s
(Now: Christianity''s) sacred god,

BUT ALSO TO PUBLICLY PLACE
THE LAMB''S BLOOD ON THEIR DOORPOSTS FOR ALL TO SEE!

and I will smite thee, and take thy head (Xtian wisdom) from off thee,

and I will give the carcasses of the host of the Philistines this day
unto the fowls of the air, and to
the wild beasts of the earth,

that all the earth may know that there is a God in Israel,

and that all this assembly may know that the LORD saveth
not with sword and spear,

for the battle is the LORD''S,

and He will give you into our hand.''
I Samuel 17:46-47

THAT I WILL MAKE JERUSALEM
A STONE OF BURDEN
FOR ALL THE PEOPLES,

ALL THAT BURDEN THEMSELVES WITH IT*

*That stone, the Moshiach.

SHALL BE SORE WOUNDED,

AND ALL THE NATIONS OF
THE EARTH SHALL BE
GATHERED TOGETHER AGAINST IT.
Zechariah 12:3

signs in the heavens - probably better to fear G-d and the lamb=======augustine e johnson-usa

Meteor - yes.

A good PR exercise for Israel''s citzen''s in Star Wars like episodes.

You were called to be a nation of Saints - not spooks

''And he said, Take heed that ye be not deceived: for many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ and the time draweth near: go ye not therefore after them.

But when ye shall hear of wars and commotions, be not terrified: for these things must first come to pass but the end is not by and by.

Then said he unto them, Nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom:

And great earthquakes shall be in divers places, and famines, and pestilences and fearful sights and great signs shall there be from heaven.

But before all these, they shall lay their hands on you, and persecute you, delivering you up to the synagogues, and into prisons, being brought before kings and rulers for my name''s sake.

And it shall turn to you for a testimony.

Settle it therefore in your hearts, not to meditate before what ye shall answer:

For I will give you a mouth and wisdom, which all your adversaries shall not be able to gainsay nor resist.

And ye shal

I didn''t do the calculations, but I trust the source, a leading satellite tracker in the amateur community. I do see the satellite booster rocket on the online tracking sites and it is right at the decay point teetering on crashing down- and the the trajectory and timing is a ringer of a match for your event. That is not confirmation!!! But given that this event seems quite slow for a meteor (recall how fast most are) and more in the realm of space junk, I''ll be surprised if it isn''t. But this is y far the best explanation advanced so far. This particular stage has been up 13 months, not one as you say. Your other comments are a bit off, these events are getting more common all the time (plenty of places to see this online), and the fact that it is a spy satellite sweeping over your neighbors makes it less of a coincidence since its orbit is limited narrowly there.

Anyone get pics of this event?

I wasn''t questioning your idea of a Satellite>>>> "Your Right", there is a satellite there. But that proves nothing!!!

What does the "Satellite" being there "put up 1 month ago" have to do with a "Meteor" falling yesturday??? Does it take a month for a "Booster" to fall back through the atmosphere??? I should think not. And there are over "8,000" Satellite''s in space, never any stories about "WHOLE NATIONS" seeing they''re boosters light up the skies!!!
Not calling you a lier or saying your wrong.... just making the point that you could be and that I will be surprised if you are right!!!
Thanks for the info and the cool link!!!
Shalom

After all, this man received the power of Satan and ascended to heaven to be tossed back to earth by God as we roll into the end of this Age. And for this 8th king to make the whole world a desert verses 16-17. Our king is coming!!! And he has spoken. Amen

Ezekiel

Then, you would prefer the explanation that it was a pebble weighing a few grams (instead of the typical meteor caused by a grain 1/100 of a gram?) as quoted in the news? Those masses are reasonable, btw, and a re-entering piece of space junk the size of a booster at say, 40,000 km/hr ionizes the atmosphere and s the show. Anyway, sooner or later it will be acknowledged - watch this link for orbit status change: http://www.n2yo.com/database/?id=31602

for all who don''t trust the God of Abraham.

To be seen by thousands!!! From Tel-Aviv to Jerusalem???!!!!



Luke 21:11
And great earthquakes shall be in divers places, and famines, and pestilences and fearful sights and great signs shall there be from heaven.

to be properly explained as it has caused quite a lot of commotion among ordinary citizens from Israel to Cyprus. The good question to ask is if anyone in Alexandria (or Cairo)saw it?

Rob lives in Los Angeles California and is well known as the discoverer of hundreds of telescopic comets and over a thousand asteroids (and astronomy is only his hobby). He deserves some congratulations for figuring this out before anyone else...
Thanks,
MexicoDoug

"Some more information on the reentry. It was the 3rd stage of the Shavit rocket that launched Ofeq-7 from Palmachim Air Force Base on June 10th, 2007. "
...Robert D. Matson, of Los Angeles, comet and satellite guru.

Rob''s calculations show it was an old booster stage of a rocket that launched an Israeli satell
ite into space in 2007, whose orbit of the booster stage finally decayed and probably headed for the sea in the direction towards Alexandria, Egypt.

I posted Rob''s comments 6 hours after it happened, he identified it. I have posted in several places including the Jerusalem and Tel Aviv newspapers. Interesting, my comments get published everywhere except there in Israel. The Israeli''s quote astronomers and Army as baffled. (and since when are meteori "predicted") Space Junk on the other hand has a chance of prediction. Well, it is quite ironic, that it is Israel''s own space junk. Perhaps they just don''t want to give much press to their satellite activities. But this need