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Wednesday, August 27, 2008 Ryan Jones

Rice suggests Israelis didn't want peace, Bush changed their minds

Visiting US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice on Tuesday asserted that when Israelis elected former Prime Minister Ariel Sharon in 2001 it was on a platform that shunned regional peace, and so the very fact that Israel and the Palestinians are in dialogue today should be seen as a major achievement.

Speaking at a press conference in Ramallah with her host Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas, Rice said:

"I would just like to remind everyone that this time last year, we, of course, didn't have a peace process. And perhaps it's well to go back to when President [George W.] Bush came to office in 2001, in the midst of the breakdown completely of the peace process with the second intifada underway, with the election of Prime Minister Sharon who explicitly did not come to power intending to be a part of the peace process."

Having laid equal blame on both the Israelis and the Palestinians for the breakdown of the peace process, Rice proceeded to hold up President Bush as the force that brought both sides back to their senses.

"President Bush has worked tirelessly over the last seven years of his administration to lay a foundation for this peace process," said Rice.

The secretary also reminded Palestinians skeptical of America's role in the peace process that Bush had directly committed "American taxpayer resources" to the birth of a Palestinian Arab state.

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[158] COMMENTS:
1 .  Son of fox
Benfox
The words .... you''ll know them by their love one for another. Ring a bell ?
 
Hodge   9/3/2008 8:07 AM
2 .  Me too Dom, a double edged sword, goes my way too!!!!!!!!!!!

 
BENFOX   9/1/2008 5:09 AM
3 .  To the true Christians who prayed for my
cousin Jimmy, thank you and God bless you, he went to be with the Lord this day, August 31, 2008 at about 4:30am. Your prayers were appricated and with love, I pray that your prayers will be answered as well. Keep my wife in your prayers, want to see her saved with all my heart. Thank You again.
 
BENFOX   9/1/2008 5:08 AM
4 .  Ok Ben

 
Dom   9/1/2008 5:07 AM
5 .  I suggest you Dom, stay out of the snake oil
and read the Bible, what did Jesus say to the soldier that slapped Him? Did He say, please the other side? If you find the verse, please inform this no nothing 20 year evangelist and Bible instructor, need all the help I can get, Dom
 
BENFOX   9/1/2008 5:04 AM
6 .  i feel G-od is
still tugging at my heart about her, i just don''t know what i am supposed to say to her now.
I''m tired.
 
Dom   9/1/2008 4:58 AM
7 .  i feel G-od is
still tugging at my heart about ger, i just don''t know what i am supposed to say to her now.
I''m tired.
 
Dom   9/1/2008 4:58 AM
8 .  Carol she Just Floored me
im so proud that she talked to us.
she has been on my heart so heavy.
 
Dom   9/1/2008 4:54 AM
9 .  thats Ok Ben, you can jump on the Bandwagon
i never did teach what was popular.
only what feel that is important.
 
Dom   9/1/2008 4:51 AM
10 .  Hi, Rebekah
Thank you for sharing the prayer of confession for the end of life. I think it is beautiful. God bless you


 
Carol   9/1/2008 4:45 AM
11 .  Benfox, are you dippin into the
snake oil today? You sure sound like you are under the influence of something. Get a grip, fella. Oh, and when in doubt, read the instruction manual. It''s called the BIBLE....something in there about turning t''uther cheek, doin good to them what harm you and all that...might give it a read as you seem to be a bit off the mark in the last few comments.
 
  9/1/2008 4:19 AM
12 .  Dom, your the one with the problem, you are
the one that can''t be shown anything, Love you and will pray for you, just won''t agree with the lack of sound doctrine, if you need to be built up, I can see why you want rebecah to give you comfort. The blind leading the blind, just as Jesus said. Hope you get out of your pride, into grace and faith and get out of man made translations, mostly your own, don''t dislike you, have a lot of love for you and yes rebecah. You can think what ever you want about me but, just because I won''t buy into your religious ideas does not mean I don''t have love and yes respect for you.
 
BENFOX   9/1/2008 4:11 AM
13 .  Sorry to spoil your dream of idle BS hosfw but,
I don''t have women problems, so you? Can''t tell if they are females or little boys behind those face coverings? It''s a tough life for you I know but, if you believe in the one and only Messiah you can stop all your grief and become normal. Old things will pass away and all things will become new. Does your heart have a clue. Love you enough to hope someday you will, if you like me or not.
 
BENFOX   9/1/2008 4:05 AM
14 .  Sorry Dom, didn''t like you comparing me with Ari.

 
BENFOX   9/1/2008 3:55 AM
15 .  Once again you have touched my heart
Come home in peace and in safety
 
Dom   8/31/2008 7:21 PM
16 .  you Know Rebekah
Sometimes i get tired, sometimes i truly grow weary, and i also get hurt. And sometimes the ministry that the lord has led me to, i take a lot of abuse, so i do know where you are coming from and i will always respect that. But there is something G-d wanted you to see.....I pray with all of my heart that you did.
with love always
Dominick
 
Dom   8/31/2008 7:13 PM
17 .  you Kow Rebekah
Sometimes i get tired, sometimes i truly grow weary, and i also get hurt. And sometimes the ministry that the lord has led me to, i take a lot of abuse, so i do know where you are coming from and i will always respect that. But there is something G-d wanted you to see.....I pray with all of my heart that you did.
with love always
Dominick
 
Dom   8/31/2008 7:13 PM
18 .  you mean Ben
one scripture out of your theology.
i guess you know it all and nobody can show you anything.
 
Dom   8/31/2008 12:17 PM
19 .  also to Ben Who said otherwise "not me"
Ben go read again, your temper gets in the way of your reading all the time.
dont like it, dont read it>
 
Dom   8/31/2008 12:04 PM
20 .  I know you think I''m picking on you, but Dom
other then the problem of you take up all the emails, what is your point other then the point you seem to think I''m your enemy, which I''m not. I would like to know your biblical education. Who taught you, If not God Himself, I''m curious, you believe everything you say is inspired. I don''t mind what you say, as long as you don''t use scriptrue out of context. I know what you are about to reply? give me other scriptrue to make it right? I know, I''m picking on you? Not true, just want everyone that says they believe in scriptures and take one verrse out of context to prove their point, I say duh, you don''t have a clue, Doesn''t mean I don''t love you, just means as the Barean''s, Prove It?
 
BENFOX   8/31/2008 10:17 AM
21 .  Hosfw, don''r have a clue, except that without the shedding
of blood there is no atonement for sin. New testament and Old testament. You don''t believe that you are not a biblical anthing but a none believe, and don''t get on me, don''t believie, taken it up with your God, don''t beleve him, I won''t see you in the lake of fire. Up to you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
BENFOX   8/31/2008 10:08 AM
22 .  Hodge do you remember a conversation
we had about the word in greek

Apostasia?
Go to this greek study site
http://bibleprophesy.org/apostasia.htm
 
Dom   8/31/2008 6:51 AM
23 .  Benfox Suffering ?
The age old debate on who Jesus ends at the day of His ascension , hundreds of eye witnesses , all watching, as the sacrifice for all mankinds sin, going into the very throne room of the Father ! What do Jewish believers do ?Without a sacrifice , without a substitution for the sin that acccumulates over time ? without atonement there is no remission for sin , eternal life starts at birth , the Door is Yeshua ..Do not die in your SIN ! turn and live in the refreshing , the renewal, only found in Gods plan ," The Lamb of God "
 
hodge   8/31/2008 6:08 AM
24 .  your all right Carol LOL

 
Dom   8/31/2008 4:02 AM
25 .  Funny how things ''rub off'' isn''t it!!
I have a few of those myself that I won''t get into right now. don''t worry, they''re clean, just can''t put my finger on them at the moment
 
Carol   8/31/2008 3:51 AM
26 .  Rebekah Please read
they have recorded in history Peter was crucified up side down, confessing Jesus to the End.
Paul was beheaded still preaching Jesus after his head hit the ground.
and many others
Psychologist say there is no way they would not have allowed themselves go to an end like that with out having had actually had witness something life changing......
think about that my friend......
you can always email me if you dont want to talk here.
domvilla41@att.net
 
Dom   8/31/2008 3:51 AM
27 .  to Carol
Born and raised in Chicago, in a neighborhood called Little Italy, on Talor st. but for the last 18 years in mo.
an old friend of mine use to say it and it rubbed off on me LOL
 
Dom   8/31/2008 3:38 AM
28 .  Hi Dom, just curious...
What part of the country are you from? My grandmother used to us that expression, ''my lands'' - also used another one ''I swannee''. she was from North Carolina & Ky. God bless
 
Carol   8/31/2008 3:24 AM
29 .  Rebekah: Thats not all he did for your soul
He sent his son
 
Dom   8/31/2008 3:18 AM
30 .  Do you think it was by accident
that G-d sent me to you?
 
Dom   8/31/2008 3:04 AM
31 .  My lands Rebekah, I know you Love G-d
And he loves you, Rebekah,That same G-d, G-d of Israel, has put you in my heart.
 
Dom   8/31/2008 3:01 AM
32 .  Don''t get mad at me Ok Rebekah
If he was a deceiver, a false prophet, it would not have Rebekah, the instant long Positive, beautiful change that it has on people. I have no law making me try to reach your heart Rebekah Just my Love
 
Dom   8/31/2008 2:54 AM
33 .  to Rebekah
Don''t you think that G-d new this would be your argument? Rebekah, we could show each other all day long, scripture that defends our thinking and belief. But one thing i know for sure, the second i gave up to him, my heart, i for the first time had the strength to walk from cocaine , which i loved, and my heart who hated and abused people changed to

in a instant to love. Please tell me your friend what happened.
 
Dom   8/31/2008 2:37 AM
34 .  Hey Girl I knew you were watching
Rebekah, i know that you know that prophecy came true.....what happened?
why are you leading people to believe you don''t know him? From my heart i have to know.
 
Dom   8/31/2008 2:06 AM
35 .  Great report Ben

 
Dom   8/30/2008 10:28 PM
36 .  to Ben and Ari
I like both of you, but you two act exactly Alike. change comes from within, even at 72, there is no excuse for it.
Guys you really blow your witness when you have outburst at people, Really!
especially you Ben, you have a lot of great quality''s and have a heart for G-d.
 
Dom   8/30/2008 10:25 PM
37 .  Wonderful news, Ben, PRAISE HIS NAME

 
Carol   8/30/2008 10:17 PM
38 .  Jim very Right
thanks everybody for reaching out To Rebekah, you plant good seed and have grace, and In G-ds Time, not ours, the lord will do the rest.
 
Dom   8/30/2008 10:17 PM
39 .  The mercy of God is never ending Ben!

 
Ellie   8/30/2008 9:14 PM
40 .  For all those praying for my cousin Jim, my daughter
Shannon said he told her yesterday that he has made peace with the Lord and asked Him to save him. He will probaby be with Him sometime today or tomorrow. Hope my wife will see the change in him and believe also. So their is reason to glory and give thanks to the God of Abraham, Issac and Jacob the God of Israel, the God of Jew and Born Again Christians all over the world, The UNDEFEATED God of the Universe, who could be no names God and rebecahs God, if they would only ask and I hope for theirs sake that they will and soon as the end of the age is getting near.
 
BENFOX   8/30/2008 8:51 PM
41 .  sleazy no name, aka and all your other trash, I don''t answer
to you in any way but, have more knowledge of the scriptures and not being a Jew hater like yourself, it matters to me that people give the proper translations so that idiots like you can understand. As usual my good friend Jim B had it right. rebecah doesn''t have a clue and neither do you, what ever hidden name you want to use this week. Thank you no name, my ego is just fine, you are the only SELFrighteous person on this site.
 
BENFOX   8/30/2008 8:45 PM
42 .  benfox, I think you got it wrong, Rebecah hasn''t answered m
Why should she???? Are you some kind of god that can command others to bow to your bidding?
It''s obvious your selfrightious ego thinks you are.
 
Please Explain   8/30/2008 7:56 PM
43 .  Giving in to intimidation
The "Palestinians" have intimidated their way through the West Bank and Gaza and who knows what will be next. They cannot be satisfied. It''s like giving in to a spoiled child repeatedly. Condi and Bush have done great harm, forcing the Israelis to concede in order to receive US help. They need to get tough, put the PA in their place and tell the truth! The PA has never kept their promises. Quit negotiating and do the right thing. All nations, including the USA, will be judged someday for their treatment of Israel. I resent my tax dollars going to the PA! All Arab citizens of Israel have the same rights as non-Arab citizens. If they would behave themselves, Israel would welcome the Arabs into a responsible, productive society!
 
Jo Ann   8/30/2008 6:25 PM
44 .  Proper interpretation.
Those commenting on Rebekah''s interpretation of Isaiah 53. Note that hers is standard Jewish thought, that Christ is NOT pictured here and that the "Suffering Servant" is Israel! When their blinded eyes will be able to see again, they will see that Messiah Jesus is the Suffering Servant.
 
Jim Borge   8/30/2008 8:32 AM
45 .  Betty, I appreciated reading your words..
concerning the election that is before us. Thank you.

Ultimately, it is God Who is working all things out in this world according to His eternal plan. The 2008 election will not be an exception to that. One day His Son will rule from Jerusalem (Psalm 2), and then, rightousness will cover this earth, as the "waters" today.

GOD has told us that in these last days, "evil men and seducers shall wax worse, deceiving, and being deceived" (II Timothy 3: 13). We are to continue to be faithful to Him in our daily life, reading His Word and praying earnestly until Jesus comes.
 
Joseph   8/30/2008 7:01 AM
46 .  Sorry Andrew? I didn''t see it but she did give
a answer. wrong as usual, but a answer.
 
BENFOX   8/30/2008 6:12 AM
47 .  Andrew, I think you got it wrong, rebecah hasn''t answered my
question concerning Isaiah 53 or Psalm 22. Wish she would?
 
BENFOX   8/30/2008 6:07 AM
48 .  Isaiah 53:11
If I may, I just wanted to comment on Isaiah 53:11. If you read the whole verse it says, "After the suffering of his soul he will see the light of life and be satisfied, by his knowledge my righteous servant will justify many, and he will bear their iniquities." Jesus knew and had a full understanding of what the result of his suffering would be (the justification of many) and in that knowledge he willing suffered and died for all mankind. Then 12 goes on to say how he poured out his life unto death. Thank you for your comments Rebeca. May God bless you.
 
Andrews   8/30/2008 4:55 AM
49 .  Charles, perhaps we were cloned??
It''s funny how some of these people make up their minds who is who. isn''t it!! Blessings to you
 
Child of the King   8/30/2008 3:44 AM
50 .  Rice
I am terribly surprised and disappointed with Sec. of State Rice. She forced Israel to withdraw from Gaza and turns a blind eye to the terrible mess she left behind. Now she is trying to do the same with this two state fallacy and has become more and more anti-Israeli and pro-Palestinian than ever. She NEVER asks for the Arabs for a compromise or to give up something in exchange for peace. It is so sad when she does have a Bible she obviously has not studied. May God have mercy upon her and her President.
 
Victor (Brazil)   8/30/2008 1:42 AM
51 .  President Bush and Sec of State Rice have
been wrong on this one from the beginning but, as bad as they were, Israel doesn''t need obama-nation either. He would sell out Israel even worse then the two in control right now. I don''t care what he says, when it comes to helping Israel, obama-nation will bale.
 
BENFOX   8/29/2008 11:44 PM
52 .  Child of a King
I thought I was me . Well I guess you never know .
 
Charles   8/29/2008 11:39 PM
53 .  Bush-Rice Arrogance
Chutzpah. Bush and Rice don''t have nearly enough Israel in their hearts to be demanding this and that from God''s Chosen Nation.

Their arrogance, weighted heavily toward the Palestinians, makes me sick.
 
Ben   8/29/2008 9:36 PM
54 .  also wanted to know what you thought of Psalms
22, who is being spoke of there?
 
BENFOX   8/29/2008 9:00 PM
55 .  rebecah, what is your take on Isaiah chapter 53?

 
BENFOX   8/29/2008 8:59 PM
56 .  Magend, you are right again....
sin city didn''t learn a blessed thing in the last one did they? They were hit pretty hard a number of years ago as well, but the walls held that time. Another city that could use a good swat is Vegas, as well as another jolt to Hollywood!! It''s like the homos were when aides came on the scene. They didn''t learn anything either, but got angry and demanded their ''right'' to practice filth and abomination. These cities that cater to the underside of humanity won''t learn either. They fly in the face of God, and He will repay in His due time. God bless
 
Carol   8/29/2008 8:52 PM
57 .  Carol!!! Concerning "Gustav"
Who but who can know and/or understand His ways!!! Not I.


But there is no doubt that we "America" and the world have been "a glutten for punishment"...

May or may not be Alabama. Might have something to do with our Narcissistic approach in rebuilding "Sin City" (Bigger and Better than it was) -I also say watch out (AGAIN) "New Orleans"...
 
magend   8/29/2008 8:41 PM
58 .  Why Don''t Rice try to achieve the Goals of Eternal Light?
Does Rice try to achieve her shady party-political goals jeopardizing the Goals of Eternal Light? Now for REAL: Should American taxpayers by paying " to the birth of a Palestinian Arab state.." which exists because of a PURE HATE to the same people with a free of individual choice faith? Why is US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice getting blind in the Days Full Of Sunlight? Why Don''t Rice try to achieve the Goals of Eternal Light?

 
kiefko kiefko   8/29/2008 8:38 PM
59 .  Election
I must say that I am glad that a strong republican woman will now come to national prominence one who is not under the thumb of the state department. The last one was Jean Kirkpatrick.
 
Betty   8/29/2008 7:20 PM
60 .  Aristotle,
#1, I am not ''charlie"

#2 Jesus said turn the other cheek.

#3 Judge not that you not be judged, for as you judge, so will you be judged.

 
Child of the King   8/29/2008 6:04 PM
61 .  Ari, I would hope you do not talk
to your wonderful wife as you have talked to people here. From what I have read of yours, she would need to be a saint if you behave the same way at home. What you have said still does not excuse your bad attitude. Benfox can get a bit out of control and hot under the collar, but 2 wrongs never did make a right and they never will. Do unto others as you would hve them do unto you....vengence is Mine saith the Lord, I will repay. If you want to be respected, you must first respect.
 
Child of the King   8/29/2008 4:48 PM
62 .  What We Say
"But whatever comes out of the mouth comes from the heart, and this is what makes a man unclean and defiles. For out of the heart come evil thoughts such as murder (anger), adultery, sexual vice, theft, false witnessing, slander, and irreverent speech.
 
Betty   8/29/2008 4:35 PM
63 .  I like the way you think
I got to in Kansas City in three hrs talk to you later, Have a great day Rebekah
 
Dom   8/29/2008 11:31 AM
64 .  you make me Smile
be careful your showing personality:)
Eugene is just trying to reach out to you my fearless one
 
Dom   8/29/2008 10:32 AM
65 .  Eugene, if I thought it was worth it, I would match my
Bible knowledge against yours any time, but it would be like dueling a unarmed man, and that really isn''t fair. Have a good night and keep on believe you have it all right and God Bless You
 
BENFOX   8/29/2008 8:30 AM
66 .  This false peace
I''M TELLING YOU NOW DO NOT FALL FOR THIS FALSE PEACE PLAN. IT WILL END IN DISASTER FOR ALL OF YOU. THEY WANT YOU OFF THEIR LAND. END OF STORY. I''M GETTING TIRED OF BUSH GIVING THE PHILISTINES MY TAX MONEY TO PAY THEM FOR WHAT. MORE MURDER AND KILLING OF JEWISH PEOPLE. NO . FIGHT FOR YOUR LAND HAS G-D INSTRUCTED YOU TOO. IT IS YOUR LAND AND GOD''S. HE WILL NOT STAND FOR IT TO BE DIVIDED UP. REMEMBER!!!!!
 
Barbara   8/29/2008 5:48 AM
67 .  To Ari
the guy is 72, and seems to have a good heart and i believe loves the lord, his short fuse blows his witness sometimes, but overall a good person.
so what im saying is have some grace, there is a lack of it around here sometimes.
 
Dom   8/29/2008 4:42 AM
68 .  Ari so what if it did not make sense
why are you insulting the guy? Come on man
 
Dom   8/29/2008 4:22 AM
69 .  Ishi and Baali
that is such a beautiful passage.
what that is saying Rebekah to me is to love him by choice not by law.
the old and the New covenant.
Imagine being with someone, would you want that person to love out of fear or love you because they were free to love you. I am not obligated to be your friend, i choose to be your friend
 
Dom   8/29/2008 4:18 AM
70 .  Rebekah
Rebekah I want to thank you for your response earlier. I agree with Dom. Lately you have not only posted scripture but have been commenting to. Jesus is my Messiah and you won''t change that, but it is enjoyable to talk to others especially of the Jewish faith to be able to understand you better and to enjoy your company, instead of saying oh no there goes Rebeckah again. Again thanks for the comments.
 
Eugene   8/29/2008 3:48 AM
71 .  to Ari so whats your point
Dont just insult people, if you have a point make , you can make it without the insults.
to much of that on here
 
Dom   8/29/2008 3:21 AM
72 .  Rebekah i have a request
I have asked everyone on this site to have some grace, and to hear what you are saying, i have 2 things to ask of you ok,
when you post please dont just slam them with all kinds of scripture, you will much more said with less.
and
that is fine if you dont believe that Jesus is the Messiah, but we do.
Please respect that in what you right OK
your friend Dominick
 
Dom   8/29/2008 3:00 AM
73 .  Rebekah
-Norway so that is where you live, Norway the country
 
Dom   8/29/2008 2:53 AM
74 .  Hi Miss Rebekah
I am trying to behave myself today...
and its a big job to :)
 
Dom   8/29/2008 12:40 AM
75 .  Rebekah
What book do you have that tell of the prophesies of Zakariah? If you have this look at chapter 11: verse 10. What is your take on the meaning?
 
Eugene   8/29/2008 12:07 AM
76 .  Dave SA
I hear that there is a great move for our God in S.A. and many other African nations. Is this true from your experience? I talked to a black paster from Nigeria, who told me of an incident that happened to him. He was teaching a group of people when a witch doctor from one of the tribes started ranting at him and would not stop. The pastor got irratated and said to the Lord, under his breath, I wish he would shut up. He said everything got quiet and when he looked at the man that had been ranting he was pulling at his mouth trying to get it opened. The Lord is great.
 
Eugene   8/28/2008 11:57 PM
77 .  Eugene
Greetings in Jesus.
You are right brother. My citizenship is in heaven but I have lived in South Africa for 40 years after having "escaped" from Harold Wilson
and his bad government!
Bad government here too: first apartheid, resulting in oppression of all non-white people and exclusion of almost all non-Afrikaaners from government and state institutions. All this because of Calvinist ideology with church married to state to achieve the rule by "the elect of God". How wrong they were and are!
Now we are ruled by the ANC who reject the God of A,I and J. At best they give the nod to Desmond Tutu''s false social gospel and liberation theology at worst its ancestor [demon] worship.
Praise Jesus that he saved my wife and I here. He is still saving folk of all shades and tongues and [quietly] building His church in the midst of a wicked and adulterous generation!
I''m off to bed -11.20 PM here. God bless
 
Dave SA   8/28/2008 11:42 PM
78 .  Prayer
One thing we each can do no matter what our thoughts about those running for political office is to pray and pray for them. If we can all be unified in that, think of what could come about!!!!!! "If my people who are called by My Name will humble themselves and pray...."
 
Betty   8/28/2008 11:35 PM
79 .  Satan Corrupts Gov.G-d brings them Down

 
Dom   8/28/2008 11:07 PM
80 .  your right, Put Israel in place of David
Sorry, but you are right.
Thanks Eugene
 
Dom   8/28/2008 11:04 PM
81 .  Government
we have become a Greedy, selfserving Nation, Everyone for themselves, and a convience Nation, examp. abortion sex. and family horror ably distorted.
Judgement will come against her.
Bad things are not of G-d, now he may allow Satan to get involved , that i agree.
 
Dom   8/28/2008 11:01 PM
82 .  Magend!! Still watching Gustav?
Last I heard was he is headed for Alabama and could be a catagory 3 by the time he gets there. Looks like you''re right on the money.
God bless
 
Carol   8/28/2008 10:53 PM
83 .  Dom
Where do you get that David rose up against Saul. He tried to avoid Saul, ran from him, had numerous chances to kill him and did not because he felt that Saul was annointed, and it was not for him to do away with him.
 
Eugene   8/28/2008 10:50 PM
84 .  David SA
I agree with your post. By the way did we establish that the SA is for South Africa? I have been reading it that way sorry if I have been wrong.
 
Eugene   8/28/2008 10:46 PM
85 .  also to Dave SA?
So when Saul and his government went went bad, and David rose up against Saul......he went against G-d?
 
Dom   8/28/2008 10:45 PM
86 .  To Dave
Dont take me wrong i am NOT afraid of persecution, either way to be absent of the body is to be present of the Lord...............
But be careful not to destroy peoples hope in Jesus.
Amen Brother
 
Dom   8/28/2008 10:33 PM
87 .  Carol
thanks Carol for responding, even though i think you were led out because of the Messianic Movement for other reasons to, i also think your experience there is very helpful in witnessing....and helping people understand the Jewish People.
Praise G-d about your husband, that is a great report. Glory to G-d
 
Dom   8/28/2008 10:25 PM
88 .  "Let every soul be subject to -
the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and the authorities that exist are appointed by God. Threfore, whoever resists the authority -" etc.
We all seem to have a problem with Paul''s statement. He was beaten, stoned, whipped, thrown in prison without trial, and more, yet he writes this to the Roman church!
God''s chosen nation got the governments it deserved - mostly bad, except for David, the younger Solomon, Joash and a couple of others. Why should we expect to be different?
For His own reasons and glory, God puts people in authority who we think are wrong, bad or worse.
His thoughts are not our thoughts.
 
Dave SA   8/28/2008 10:19 PM
89 .  To Betty
Isa 50:4
4The Lord GOD hath given me the tongue of the learned, that I should know how to speak a word in season to him that is weary: he wakeneth morning by morning, he wakeneth mine ear to hear as the learned.
KJV

Matt 11:28
28Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
KJV

1 Thess 4:13-14
13But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.

14For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.
KJV

 
Dom   8/28/2008 10:14 PM
90 .  Hi Dom,
I do live in the USA. I live on Ohio, and have except for a few years in the glorious bluegrass state of Ky....loved it there, BTW. No, I am not Jewish by birth, just spiritually. I don''t attend the Messianic congregation any more because after years of praying for my husband''s salvation, I felt moved to offer to attend a Christian church if he would. He doesn''t care for the charasmatic aspects of the Messianic movement, and is uncomfortable with the Hebrew. After 3 or so years of attending church with me, he was saved last December, praise GOD!!! I still have Messianic tendencies, but I feel that we as a couple need to have unity and worship together. Maybe one day he will be ready for Messianic worship, but until then, we are attending a nice little Baptist church with a pastor truly on fire for the Lord and not afraid to preach against sin. God bless
 
Carol   8/28/2008 10:06 PM
91 .  Betty our Hope in Jesus
i do see what your saying and you are correct.....Remember That Persecution the the bible is talking about will be during the tribulation period. The Church will not be here, please dont fear Jesus is coming.
We better Pray we are not here.
 
Dom   8/28/2008 10:01 PM
92 .  Election (cont)
and whose mind and heart turn aside from the Lord." (Jeremiah 17:5) Persecution strengthens the bride. Jesus is coming for an unblemished bride. God''s purpose will be fulfilled no matter whom is elected. His purpose is to prepare the bride for the bridegroom''s return.
 
Betty   8/28/2008 9:54 PM
93 .  Election
I hope that you all will understand one thing. I AM NOT DEFEATED. My King is triumphant! There is much going on in Denver at this moment they are preparing for the coronation. Many see Mr. Obama as savior. Many see him as evil. Many are now waiting with great expectation to see whom Mr. McCain will choose as a running mate. We are in the times when Jesus said it would be as in the days of Noah. Our concern should be for the salvation of souls because time is getting short. Regardless of the outcome of this election, true persecution is coming for the true believers. Jesus said that we would be persecuted. We have not been before because we have not been true to our Savior. Most of us have sat in our churches and homes and complained but have not taken a stand. That time is gone. The time is fast approaching when there will be no moderate. We will either be hot or cold. "Thus says the Lord: Cursed is the strong man who trusts in and relies on frail man, making weak flesh his arm, and whose m
 
Betty   8/28/2008 9:48 PM
94 .  After Rev 18 the DestuctionOf Babylon
Notice Babylon is not mentioned again, thoughout the rest of Rev.....And now i really cant strongly prove this, but during the Mellinium, i believe that is where Satan will be chained up for a thousand years......
 
Dom   8/28/2008 9:45 PM
95 .  Eugene, that is why
recently i mad my Lengthy case on legalism is a killer to the gentile, (blasphemy of the Holy Spirit),

and

my case in the description of end time Babylon being the US.
and the Rapture Taking Place at the sound of the Last Trump....Rosh Shannah

and you Know maybe everybody did not see it and other than BenFox had no real strong opposition, because you have to admit it makes sense.
I pray I planted good seed on good ground and at the very least made you all think.
Amen and Amen
 
Dom   8/28/2008 9:15 PM
96 .  I take it
i made Babs mad
 
Dom   8/28/2008 8:55 PM
97 .  Eugene Thanks but let me add
see Eugene, this is a problem if you dont see it for what it is, most dont want to see it because and understandably they love life i do to.
and fear if you dont see what the bible telling us, then you have no hope. that is why Mid and Post will never see the US as Mystery Babylon or understandably the people who Live here in the US, I''ll say this to all of us, it is time to reach out to your family...... if im wrong or right something is about to happen....
 
Dom   8/28/2008 8:48 PM
98 .  Dom
I agree that we may not see the next election. And why would anyone beat you up for telling the truth. I think God is working to the end that His will be done, not ours. I may be wrong, as many have been in the past, But I feel that we are closer than anyone thinks to the tribulation.

Ben it alwaays amazes me for a person that says he believes in the Bible and has taught all over the world, how much of the Bible you don''t believe. There is still hope for you. God bless you.
 
Eugene   8/28/2008 8:29 PM
99 .  My Honest Opinion and we all know thats worth
Theres a good chance this country wont see the next election in the US.
 
Dom   8/28/2008 7:59 PM
100 .  To Betty, Carol and Eugene
There is another way to look at this. Now don''t beat me up for this, i am no fan of Bush and I voted for him. I think when you become an elected official you should not be allowed to own stock, they set policy that controls the market, and at the cost of the Middle and poverty level class in this country, Bush believed to much in the prosperity message. well that is another story. back to what i was saying, maybe, just maybe, everything was in G-d''s plan, the stage is almost set, maybe Bush did do just what G-d told him.
 
Dom   8/28/2008 7:56 PM
101 .  Maybe I''m stupid but, If we don''t vote for the
lesser of two evils we do elect the most evil. We may not know where McCain will lead us but, we and God know for sure where obama-nation will take us, so don''t vote and allow obama-nation to win, that is crazy. If obama-nation wins we get abortion on demand, we get babies that were born anyhow who will be put to death, we get old people at the back of the medical line who would be better served at a funeral home. John McCain is not a believer and if he even goes half way on what he says, there is still hope that God will give us the time to lead others to Him. Unless of course we are like the church of Ephesus and have lost our first love. Do you have a passion for lost souls or are you just marking time? I pray that all my brothers and sisters in Christ would pray that we can see more souls saved rather then throw in the towel and let satan''s man win. Praying for all of us, I''m afraid for the church when I read defeat.
 
BENFOX   8/28/2008 7:48 PM
102 .  About Condi a mistake
she told Puti Baby that he was NOT fit to run the country.
 
Dom   8/28/2008 7:28 PM
103 .  Carol do you live in the US?
Just curious. and you said you were at one time a Messianic Jew.... and are you Jewish? not trying to get too personal.
just trying to get to know ya.
if you dont want to answer that i understand. Im half Italian and ask BenFox 1/2 nuts....Laughing out Loud LOL
 
Dom   8/28/2008 7:07 PM
104 .  Condi
do you know what that idiot did a couple of years ago. She said and not that its not true, but she told Putin in front of his advisor''s to his face that was fit to run a country. He is a Muslim, you dont think he is hold a grudge. That man is a bad dude and has NO USE for the US.
Better watch this deal with Russia. this is not saber rattling. These people hate the US and they have nukes
 
Dom   8/28/2008 7:01 PM
105 .  to BenFox the email
that was funny, thats a liberal for ya.
they dont even know what immorality is.
 
Dom   8/28/2008 6:52 PM
106 .  con''t
Just as with many , manyother governments in the past as well as others today, we have turned away from Him, and he has closed the doors to us. I also believe that the NWO (Illiminati) has full control of this government, so no truly God fearing person stands a chance of being elected. People have turned from God, and are being dooped by one looser after another. I don''t know if I will vote or not, or if I will vote for Chuck Baldwin, or will vote for McCain if fear of Obama. I also wonder if our votes even count anymore. God bless
 
Carol   8/28/2008 6:23 PM
107 .  Wow Betty!! My sentiments exactly!!
I dont trust either of these men. I have voted for the lesser of 2 evils in the last several elections, but am tiriing of that, too. I would have voted for Huckabee, or even Romney in a heart beat, but McCain is basically a liberal in conservative clothing (much as Ted Kennedy is a Manatee in a business suit snicker, snicker) or is that "shark?" I don''t watch the conventions, but did catch enough here & there to be sickened, first by not one American flag on the stage, then by the lies spewed from the Clintons. I quickly turned it off when "good" ole boy BillyBob Clinton was raving about Obama being the MAN for the job, UGH. Your vision makes perfect sense to me as well. I can see that God has turned His back on this nation as a whole, although He will never turn His back on His people.
 
Carol   8/28/2008 6:17 PM
108 .  Amen Betty
But I hope that you don''t get that fearful. Jesus tolds us not to be anxious or fearful.

We are also told to pray for the speedy return of Jesus. If either Mccain or Obama are servants of God to help bring this about. Prase God!!!

It seems that to many on this site are fearful of everything or they have a republican agenda, don''t know which worse. I have to admit that I helped get President Bush elected. I campaigned for him, worked the phones for him, and volunteerer in anything I could help with. Never again.
 
Eugene   8/28/2008 6:02 PM
109 .  Voting (cont)
It bothers me that I don’t plan to vote. That’s where I stand today. The Lord may show me differently before election day. I may become so fearful of Obama that I may go ahead and vote for McCain whether the Lord tells me or not. But, I am not stupid for praying and obeying what the Lord tells me regardless of what He’s telling you.

 
Betty   8/28/2008 5:23 PM
110 .  Voting (cont)
It is not that people who say they will not vote are stupid. Some of us take this responsibility very seriously. I, for one, have prayed and prayed about this. Voting for one or the other of these men has not come to me. What is brought to my mind as I pray is the scripture in Romans which says, “… they not only do them themselves but approve and applaud others who practice them.” John McCain has rarely supported my values while in the Senate. Morality is talked about. Mr. Obama has been married to one woman. I don’t know if he’s been faithful or not. John McCain was married when he fell in love with his current wife. Is this moral? If he could not be faithful to his wife, what would make me think that he would be faithful to his word or his country? Will either of these men be faithful to Israel when the real blackmail over oil comes?

 
Betty   8/28/2008 5:22 PM
111 .  Voting (cont)
But, I knew that he was not the salvation of this country. He only would slow down the process.

There is so much talk of the stupidity of some people who comment on this site. There is talk of how not voting is a vote for Obama and we will have to answer to God for allowing such an un-Godly man be voted in. People have a perception that John McCain is not that un-Godly man. I honestly don’t know how people have come to that conclusion. I have not just begun to listen or watch John McCain. I have watched him and his actions while in the Senate. So many of the bills that have gone before the Senate have had his name on them with the likes of Ted Kennedy. Is that standing for my values? I think not. He does not really like the Christian right and has said so. Of course, that was before this election. He said he will work with the democrats, which he has already done, which means doing it their way. They will have more control of the Congress after this election.

 
Betty   8/28/2008 5:21 PM
112 .  Voting
When I was younger I was very political. Voting was very important to me. I was down with mononucleosis and got out of bed to vote for the first time when I was 21. I confess that I wasn’t as in the know as some on this site but I believed it was a privilege but, more an obligation, to vote. At that point I actually believed we had choices. When Bill Clinton was running for office the first time, the hair on my back would stand up whenever I saw him or heard him speak. When he was elected, I was heartsick. The night of the election I told the Lord that I didn’t even know how to pray for him. I was given a vision. I saw this country’s history. It went before me as frames of a movie. Then, two very tall and thick wood doors closed on it and I heard the locks. I was told that this country as it had been was gone.

I did vote for President Bush. He said he was a Christian and it appeared he supported Israel. He said he supported the same values as I do. I wasn’t all excited about him. But, i
 
Betty   8/28/2008 5:20 PM
113 .  This will stop with McCain.

 
Matthew Joseph   8/28/2008 3:13 PM
114 .  To BenFox
Hi Ben, I see things just as you do. Let''s just do the wise thing, and not worry about those who want to waste a vote. However, as a poll worker, I can tell you all that your write in names will not be a message to anyone. Ballots are read by machines. Counted in the overall voting, yes, but sending a message? NO! No one will get your message.
The Lord God will "allow" John McCain, or Barrak Obama to be the president, unless one of them withdraws or dies before the electon (not likely). God is a God of order He established government and we are accountable for being grownups and choosing the man who best represents our most important values. If you folks cannot see that life and family are those values, then do as you wish. John McCain is pro-life, and believes marriage is between a man and a woman.
Obama supports abortion, and gay marriage.
 
Ellie   8/28/2008 2:45 PM
115 .  If you . No, I''m sorry, to stuipid to kown what is righr
and wrong, thought I was on a site wtih some kind of wisdom, don''t want to sult the resest of the dmb people on this site. good night
 
BENFOX   8/28/2008 9:44 AM
116 .  Sorry, the words were broken up, from the way I wrote this

 
Joseph   8/28/2008 5:38 AM
117 .  Eugene, your words describe the situation very well.
This is a very serious election. Again, as the type of candidates have been "brought-forth" in the past several decades, we see anew, a type (Democrat or Republican) of candidate for the American people to vote for, but there isn''t much difference between them individually. Heads or tails, it doesn''t matter, they''re both very similiar. It seems certain, the only difference between the candidates is within the minds of the voters, their desires for what "their candidate is", and not so much a distinctive, tangible difference in the candidates.

Question: "who is ing these "bo-zo''s" behind the scenes for American''s to vote for? They do not talk deeply about "issues", it is only "ficticious persona" they offer the voter to compare and from. Why can''t the "united-majority of Americans" their own candidates, are we not keenly aware of what we need? I see, Americans are really not that united, that they can make a choice. Then, "why not"? Too much CBS, NBC, FOX, ABC propaganda? There has to be a
 
Joseph   8/28/2008 5:34 AM
118 .  3rd party CAN''T win and does give obama-nation a sure win.
The devil sure has believer blinded to obama-nation and what he can and will do to this nation. What ever, everyone knows more then me.
 
BENFOX   8/28/2008 5:10 AM
119 .  So your answer is to vote for a anti-christ person
who doesn''t mind telling you he is going to change the US into Sodom and Gommorah, or a 3 rd party that can win but, will assure the distruction of the US. Sorry can''t see the wisdom in that any more then you can see voting for McCain. Vote the way you want and we will see which way God would have us vote in eternity?
 
BENFOX   8/28/2008 5:07 AM
120 .  Ben again
His only good point is that he is behind Israel, but how long can that last with a democratic congress. Evil is evil with god there is no destention, no big evil and little evil. If you look at our history and compare JFK with GWB, GWB is more liberal than JFK. Mccain is more liberal than President Bush. The liberals are at a point of being socialist at best and communist at worst. If we don''t stop this cycle of electing more and more liberal republicans, we will have exactly what we vote for socialism or communism. Because of our voting for the lesser of two evils each time around. I for one will never vote for a democrate but I am finished voting for a republican just to keep a democrat out. If republicans can put a nominee up that is a conservative they will get my vote again.
 
Eugene   8/28/2008 4:26 AM
121 .  Ben
It seems we can''t agree on anything lately. John Mccain says all the right things now, but look at his record. He was the first member of the US senate to propose a bill to limit our freedom of speach and got it passed. He says that life begins at conseption, but will not support a any bill that does away with a woman''s right to chose. He says that he is against gay marriage, but says he will not support a constitutional ammendment that only recognizes marriage as being between a man and a woman. He says he is a republican but over 80% of his votes have been with the democrates. He is for open borders with Mexico. He is for amnisty for illegals. He has stated that conservatives are one of the worst things that has happened to this country. He has stated that conservative Christianity will be the down fall of this country. He has stated that he will work with the democrates who have a majority in the house and senate and are likely to have a fillabuster proof majority after this election.

His only goo
 
Eugene   8/28/2008 4:25 AM
122 .  Just got a Email, what a joke yet true. They
wouldn''t let John Edwards speak at the convention because he was unfaithful to his wife, so in his place former President Bill Clinton spoke, whats wrong with that logic?
 
BENFOX   8/28/2008 4:20 AM
123 .  No Eugene, you will get a baby killing, godless
person who will destroy this nation, please don''t turn stupid and get a God hater, A Jew hater elected. If you do, you can blame yourself and all the people who say they hate evil but, in doing something stupid they put a enemy of God in office with the power to change America forever, isn''t that what his sign says? I say you defeat evil, you don''t help evil get elected.
 
BENFOX   8/28/2008 3:54 AM
124 .  vote
I think I''ll write in Jesus Christ. If every Christian would do that maybe our government would get the message.
 
Eugene   8/28/2008 3:29 AM
125 .  I will once again vote for the lesser of 2 EVILS
If obama-nation gets in this nation is gone. His taxes will kill every area of US life, unemployment will be worse then the Carter era. Un-born and those who servive abortion will be murdered just like the case in Chicago. 2 Supreme Court Judges you will legislate from the bench. 2 houses of congree, the president and 2 more left wing judges. Too much for me. I''ll take McCain for the support of Israel, he is not the 2 coming of President Bush but, you vote 3rd party and you get a person who doesn''t know your God and someone who will bring the US to be Sodom and Gonmorrah and you know what happen there. Since we caused it with our votes, you think God will forget? I wouldn''t want to be there.
 
BENFOX   8/28/2008 3:27 AM
126 .  BENFOX
I too, voted for him (twice) against my better judgment, and I can hardly tolerate the dissappointment!

I know, many are critical of my voting pattern, but I only wanted to choose the "lesser-of-two-evils", and THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I GOT, with special emphasis on "the lesser"!

I will "write-in" a "Constitutionalist" this time what is there to lose? McCain, gives Americans "more of the Bush", and Obama, "obamination"!
 
Joseph   8/28/2008 2:08 AM
127 .  I''m a shamed of myself. I was a delegate to the o4
Republican National Convention and vote for President George W. Bush. I thought he was a born again believer. I still believe he could be but hasn''t had good biblical instruction. I still believe God gave us 8 years to change or be judged? I just watch the Dem''s change the rules so that the obama-nation would be elected without a complete roll call. Sounds like real communist, what will they bring if they have both houses and the president? Can you say communism?
 
BENFOX   8/28/2008 1:38 AM
128 .  Condi Rice and her N.W.O. bosses,..
(..not the bo-zo president either), originally spelled "peace" as "piece". This was from the "concept": "we'''' will divide the land a piece at a time, until there will be NO concievable way to discern what piece of the land, goes to whom!

But, they misjudged Who it was, that actually owned the geographical area called "Israel"! And they did not consult Him about the matter before hand! This is fatal!
 
Joseph   8/28/2008 1:20 AM
129 .  Hi Magend
I read your post and looked back at what I wrote ( I don''t read soozie'' anymore), certainly no one can change God''s plans, but man''s sinful selfish willl certainly can postpone His Blessings, such as Israel''s land blessings . That is the thought I had in mind. Abram and Sarai are a good example of not waiting for God, and we know the story of the results of their wisdom.
 
Ellie   8/27/2008 11:03 PM
130 .  Forgive me for this all!!!!
But actually Soozie, what you are, is an arrogant, self-righteous witch...

I''m being nice, substituting the "B" with a "W"....

Anyone care to agree with me???!!!
 
magend   8/27/2008 9:26 PM
131 .  Rice suggests Israel didn''t want peace
Response to Susanna: TOO MUCH!
Do any of our government know that Hamas won enough seats in the PA to have the lead, and even before that, it was hard to differentiate between Hamas and the PA?
Hamas bragged in advance that the weapons (billion of $??) would end being used against Israel. Quite
prophetic as it turned out, huh?
 
patti   8/27/2008 9:11 PM
132 .  Rice suggests didn''t want peace
Israel has compromised and given in time after time after time..Doesn''t ANYONE in our Government realize
that the Muslims/Islamics won''t stop til they ''wipe Israel off the map," and likely the USA, too?
Israel and England (for now) are the ONLY 2 friends we have in the UN (and maybe the whole world!) I can''t even count on Canada anymore.
 
patti   8/27/2008 9:06 PM
133 .  True she is an embarrasment, but she
is also just a pupet of our sorry escuse for a government, which is a pupet of the Illuminati. One world government, here we come.

And Magend, from another site, your comment about Gustav, I''m sure watching that one, brother. I believe Katrina was a judgement for our forcing Israel to give up Gaza, and other disasters were judgements as well. We may well be about to get our "come-uppins: once again. God bless
 
Carol   8/27/2008 8:54 PM
134 .  she is an embarrassment to US
A shame to all who Know and Love Isreal. As an American i ask forgiveness for our ''nations leaders
 
Sheelah   8/27/2008 8:28 PM
135 .  Tomorrow is Gilad Shalits birthday.
I am so sad that he is still captive.
 
Melody   8/27/2008 8:20 PM
136 .  Magend
Forgive me, but you act like there is something to celebrate. Your agreeing or disagreeing with me holds no credence over my beliefs.

Those who exalt themselves will be humbled.

I do not concern myself with man''s judgement, only God''s.
 
Soozie   8/27/2008 7:54 PM
137 .  (1) Ancient of Days - "Let My People Go!"
In the Days of Old...the LORD cried out thru Moses to Pharaoh, the king of Egypt, "Let My People Go!" (Exodus 6:6-7)

Israel is being forced to release hundreds of terrorists prisoners to satisfy US Secretary of State Rice and US President Bush.

How do you explain evil in the heart of man? (Genesis 6:5-6)

Before the LORD unleashes HIS wrath of judgment upon America..

Will the one who contends with Almighty God correct Him? (Job 40:2

To obey is better than sacrifice...
(1 Samuel 15:22)





 
Crying Out in the Wilderness   8/27/2008 6:59 PM
138 .  Jim....
Of course your right. I was only being sarcastic in that our Government continually and "HYPOCRITICALLY" coerces Israel to do things that we would never do. Of course we have turned a few loose, but never in History have we or would we "G-d Forbid" turn them "ALL" loose in the name of "PEACE".... sickening isn''t it???!!!
 
magend   8/27/2008 6:57 PM
139 .  (2) Ancient of Days - "Let My People Go!"
God''s examples of plagues - Exodus chapters 7 thru 11

consider this...message sent to leaders of the White House in Washington DC - Aug. 25, 2008

As law enforcement is forced to downsize, America is now plagued with early release of thousands of prisoners from each state, all due to lack of funds.

This is what the God of Hebrews says: (Exodus 10:4-6)

"How long will you refuse to humble yourself before Me? Let My People Go!"

Ref: Luke 11:29-32 Deut 28:52-57
Zech 12:1-9 2 Chronicles 6:5-6






 
Crying Out in the Wilderness   8/27/2008 6:51 PM
140 .  SOOZIE - FOR ONCE I AGREE!!!
That was the "very first" thing I thought to say in response to Ellie!!!

You are right about that - no one has ever disrupted His plan... Amen to that!!!
 
magend   8/27/2008 6:48 PM
141 .  Ellie
There is no one disrupting God''s plans now.
 
Soozie   8/27/2008 6:32 PM
142 .  Magend
Some detainees have been released from Guantanamo-only to be killed fighting US forces after release, or have been recaptured and returned again to Guantanamo. I have heard this from numerous Navy persnonnel who have served there. Terror is in these islamists blood.
 
Jim Borge   8/27/2008 6:28 PM
143 .  So Thankful for my Bible
It tells me how it all will end! Israel survives Israel will have all the land God promised in the beginning.
There will be no other government but Jesus Christ Messiah ruling over Israel and the nations.
There will be no one disrupting God''s plans. There will be no Politics, and Israel will be the central place of Worship for the entire world. There will be Peace. There will be blessed Restoration!
And in the words of Joni Eareckson-Tada, "I can hardly wait"
Pray for God''s Kingdom to come on Earth, as it is in heaven!!
For not until then, will all these troubles end.
 
Ellie   8/27/2008 5:54 PM
144 .  bush/condi betrayal
This administration that I voted for, now turns my stomach. But what we have coming to govern may be must worse. Look out America, Gustav is on its way, he who curses Israel will be cursed.
 
Jerry D.   8/27/2008 5:48 PM
145 .  Re: US of Hypocrisy!!!
Much agreeance there, brother....

Don''t see anyone being loosed from Guantanamo!!!
 
magend   8/27/2008 5:32 PM
146 .  U.S. and Wishful Thinking
As a US citizen and a taxpayer I can assure Ms Rice that I''m not wanting my money to go towards birthing a Palestinian Arab state. I pray for the peace of Jerusalem, but I don''t believe dividing up more of Israel will bring about a secure or lasting peace. I voted for Bush anticipating that he would be a strong and dependable ali towards Israel, I am sorely disappointed.
 
Willa   8/27/2008 5:04 PM
147 .  United States of HYPOCRISY
The U.S. is hypocritical to the nth degree. They say it is ''good'' to release murderers back to the streets. I wonder what they would do if some senator was kidnapped, and the demand was to release death row inmates? Would they do that? NO!
Judgement is coming to Israel, then to the nations that cause her fornication.
 
Michael   8/27/2008 4:56 PM
148 .  KOLEEN - G-D BLESS YOU
a righteous gentile has a better name than sons and daughters
 
shosh7154   8/27/2008 4:51 PM
149 .  I''m with you Koleen
Man or woman, whoever, can give their opinion to their heart''s content. They can make all the plans they wish, trying to pressure other peoples to fall in line with these. Thankfully to no avail in the end. God''s Will, WILL BE DONE, He is the creator. My advice to everyone, fall in line with Him, do it now, stop trying to be Him, you will bow down eventually.
 
C Gill   8/27/2008 4:21 PM
150 .  Amen Koleen!
If I had read your post first, I would never have written that last dismal post of mine. I hope Israel Today removes my last one.
 
Jim Borge   8/27/2008 4:09 PM
151 .  "palestine condi"
Oh, what sad news! When rice replaced Colin Powell as Sec. of State, I was not disappointed: I thought an intelligent conservative black woman like condi would work out great. Now I am disappointed.
 
Jim Borge   8/27/2008 4:05 PM
152 .  God says the land will always belong to Isreal
God gave the land to His chosen people Israel as an inheritance. God says the borders He set forth will not be reapportioned.The land does not belong to the Palestinians as far as God is concerned. Jerusalem belongs to the Jews. Watch out nations who try to come against Israel even the United States. You don''t want to be in trouble with God. It was God who told the Israelies to drive out their enemies and He intends to help them do it.
 
Koleen Deleon   8/27/2008 4:02 PM
153 .  UNITED STATES OPINION
No one can depend on an honest opinion given by the United States of America in regards to ANY peace process in the Middle East. Israel has not changed its posture in defending its right to establishment in that region of the world. For the United States to claim that Israel is aggressive in making war against the Palestinians and, in fact, Islam as a whole is not only dead wrong, its coming from a nation that has lost their faith in God and sides with only that which their five senses tells them is expedient at the present time.
 
Daniel Moran   8/27/2008 3:16 PM
154 .  God decides
Again it just shows Israel can only trust God to protect her and HE has already given us HIS Word that is what HE will do. We pray for your peace Israel.
 
OR   8/27/2008 3:09 PM
155 .  A Niggardly Coward
She could say what she wants about Ariel Sharon - and he in a coma . .

Whilst she whispers to Israelis who shall listen (we say these things for the sake of peace)

Such a child of Satan shall come to a wicked end . . The middle East would vomit her blood were she to have the honour of falling in it.

No wonder The Lord raised up Hamas.
 
Anonymous Ireland   8/27/2008 3:05 PM
156 .  Israel & USA
This is sad, Israel needs to be allowed to chart her own destiny without outside pressure. I also, hope that Ms. Rice and others who are considered wise in mans inner circle. "Understand before its too late, G-d instructions relating to tampering with Israel. Israel wants peace but not at the price presented in 2001.

G-d please help the blind! JW


 
J. Williams   8/27/2008 2:29 PM
157 .  Does the Americans know?
Do the Americans know that the tax they pay is birthing a Palestinian Arab State.
 
susanna   8/27/2008 2:14 PM
158 .  Certainly no philistine state
it is the exact opposite of what the bible says ==========shalom==========augustine e johnson_usa
 
augustine e johnson_usa   8/27/2008 2:02 PM


  
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