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Sunday, November 09, 2008 Nicole Jansezian

FEATURE: With Obama at helm, Iranian threat looms lar

With President-elect Barack Obama ready to assume power in the most powerful nation on earth, Israel faces the grave prospect of a nuclear Iran. Barry Rubin, director of the Global Research in International Affairs Center, says he is worried about Obama’s stated intention to “conciliate with our enemies, not support our friends. That worries me a great deal.”

Rubin said that while the Israeli-Palestinian situation is not likely to be vastly affected by any American president, the more serious threat is a nuclear Iran and the “extremely serious strategic challenge which affects 20 countries or more.”

“We have every reason to believe that [Obama] will take a relatively soft approach, whether or not he holds direct negotiations or indirect negotiations” with Iran, Rubin told a news briefing in Jerusalem last week. “We cannot expect that he will take a tougher line on sanctions and pressures, and he will not persuade Tehran that he’s going to do so. This will have the predictable effect that the Iranians are going to push ahead on nuclear weapons as fast as they have with much less concern over the consequences.”

While Israeli leaders welcomed Obama’s election and said they expect the “special strategic relationship” between the two countries to continue, signs of strain quickly emerged. A day after the election, Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni publicly condemned Obama’s plans to talk to Iran.

“We live in a neighborhood in which dialogue—in a situation where you have brought sanctions, and you then shift to dialogue—is liable to be interpreted as weakness,” Livni said. Asked if she supported the US dialogue with Iran, Livni replied: “The answer is no.”

Some Israelis are jealous of a charismatic figure that galvanized a nation, a dynamic missing in Israeli politics. As Israel heads toward its own elections, no such visionary leader has risen up.

But others expressed misgivings about Obama’s policies toward Israel. An editorial in the right-wing Israel National News said Obama’s readiness to sit down with an adversary comes from his “limited experience in international affairs.”

“One who surrenders and retreats in hopes of gaining a little peace places his own survival in jeopardy,” the editorial said. “Such has been Israel’s experience at least since the year 2000, and such will be the experience of the United States if it sacrifices the interests of its allies in the pursuit of facile and elusive ‘solutions.’”

More cause for concern came from the Arab press. The Lebanese newspaper al-Ahbar reported that Obama told Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas in secret that he supports a Palestinian state and Arab “rights to East Jerusalem.” The sources said Abbas and Palestinian Prime Minister Salam Fayyad “heard the best things they ever heard from an American president.”

The London-based Al-Quds Al-Arabi ran an editorial by Abdelbari Atwan who said that Obama won a racial intifada (uprising) to become president. He said the Arabs should learn from this to “impose our point of view and serve our cause.”

“The conditions are now right for the Arabs to use their wealth to obtain a favorable commitment from the US and correct historical mistakes made in Palestine,” Atwan writes. “It is our right today to show our support for Obama, not because his father is called Hussein, or because he is black, even less because he is Moslem. But just because he revolted against contempt.”

Palestinians in Gaza celebrated Obama’s victory with spontaneous celebrations in the streets and waving Hamas flags, probably more an expression of contempt for President Bush than support for Obama.

By contrast, Prime Minister Ehud Olmert praised Bush and said he would go down in Israeli history. “His name will be engraved in golden letters on the heart of the State of Israel,” Olmert said. “The $30 billion we received over 10 years are only the very tip of the iceberg of the things Bush has given us.”

By the same token, a poll showed that 76 percent of American voters in Israel cast their ballots for Bush’s fellow Republican John McCain. It was the direct opposite in America where Jews voted on domestic issues and put Israel on the back burner. Polls show that some 78 percent of American Jews voted for Obama.

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[166] COMMENTS:
1 .  The Battle Is The Lords and arabs lie......
The Tragedy of America the election was rigged, starting with begging letters and cheap t-shirts 21 months ago, right up to the pre election scene shifting between (Kabbala Jew) and the Hyatt Hotel chain. Obama has survived by going with the flow and standing for nothing, form anti military protest to sending 30,000 other people to finish the Afghan and Iran struggle. So he is at best a 2 faced ally of Israel, she must look to her God Psalm 147
 
Windsong   12/27/2008 4:55 PM
2 .  Witches speaking in tongues, cap?
Witches also pray and worship and sing and dance and do many of the things that we all do. So it is a very good reason not to do any of these things.
 
S   12/17/2008 7:49 PM
3 .  Joe Biden will be president of U.S.A
As i told obama from the begininng ...but he didnt lesten to me?...now i can say in a very clear way that Joe Biden will be the president of USA.
 
issam ghallab   12/16/2008 6:20 PM
4 .  Rebekah who are these gods?''You are "gods"
in Psalm 82 ?
And who are Sons of God in Job 1:6?
 
Jaroslav   11/16/2008 12:35 AM
5 .  Rebekah. Psalm 82 ''You are "gods" sons of Almighty
1 God presides in the great assembly
he gives judgment among the "gods":

2 "How long will you [a] defend the unjust
and show partiality to the wicked?
Selah

3 Defend the cause of the weak and fatherless
maintain the rights of the poor and oppressed.

4 Rescue the weak and needy
deliver them from the hand of the wicked.

5 "They know nothing, they understand nothing.
They walk about in darkness
all the foundations of the earth are shaken.

6 "I said, ''You are "gods"
you are all sons of the Most High.''

7 But you will die like mere men
you will fall like every other ruler."

8 Rise up, O God, judge the earth,
for all the nations are your inheritance.
 
  11/16/2008 12:30 AM
6 .  Rebekah Moses was a god to pharaoh II
34Jesus answered them, "Is it not written in(A) your Law,(B) ''I said, you are gods''? 35If he called them gods to whom the word of God came—and Scripture cannot be(C) broken— 36do you say of him whom(D) the Father consecrated and(E) sent into the world, ''You are blaspheming,'' because(F) I said, ''I am the Son of God''? 37(G) If I am not doing the works of my Father, then do not believe me 38but if I do them,(H) even though you do not believe me, believe the works, that you may know and understand that(I) the Father is in me and I am in the Father."
It is interesting that Christ never claimed that He was God but He always claimed that He is The Son of God which He is. And you need to accept Him what He is and was. He is your only hope and only way because He is the way between God and men.



 
Jaroslav   11/16/2008 12:21 AM
7 .  Rebekah Moses was a god to pharaoh
""The Lord said to Moses, "See! I have made you a lord over Pharaoh,*
and Aaron, your brother, will be your speaker. Exodus 7:1""" You said here lord which is Adonai. That is what you call God JAHVEH as well. Isn''t it?

"Then the LORD said to Moses, "See, I make you as God to Pharaoh, and your brother Aaron shall be your prophet.""

GOD''S WORD® Translation (©1995)
The LORD answered Moses, "I have made you a god to Pharaoh, and your brother Aaron is your prophet.

King James Bible
And the LORD said unto Moses, See, I have made thee a god to Pharaoh: and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet.
 
Jaroslav   11/16/2008 12:13 AM
8 .  Rebekah Moses was a god to pharaoh
""The Lord said to Moses, "See! I have made you a lord over Pharaoh,*
and Aaron, your brother, will be your speaker. Exodus 7:1""" You said here lord which is Adonai. That is what you call God JAHVEH as well. Isn''t it?

"Then the LORD said to Moses, "See, I make you as God to Pharaoh, and your brother Aaron shall be your prophet.""

GOD''S WORD® Translation (©1995)
The LORD answered Moses, "I have made you a god to Pharaoh, and your brother Aaron is your prophet.

King James Bible
And the LORD said unto Moses, See, I have made thee a god to Pharaoh: and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet.
 
Jaroslav   11/16/2008 12:13 AM
9 .  Rebekah Moses was a god to pharaoh
""The Lord said to Moses, "See! I have made you a lord over Pharaoh,*
and Aaron, your brother, will be your speaker. Exodus 7:1""" You said here lord which is Adonai. That is what you call God JAHVEH as well. Isn''t it?

"Then the LORD said to Moses, "See, I make you as God to Pharaoh, and your brother Aaron shall be your prophet.""

GOD''S WORD® Translation (©1995)
The LORD answered Moses, "I have made you a god to Pharaoh, and your brother Aaron is your prophet.

King James Bible
And the LORD said unto Moses, See, I have made thee a god to Pharaoh: and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet.
 
Jaroslav   11/16/2008 12:11 AM
10 .  Rebekah Moses was a god to pharaoh
""The Lord said to Moses, "See! I have made you a lord over Pharaoh,*
and Aaron, your brother, will be your speaker. Exodus 7:1""" You said here lord which is Adonai. That is what you call God JAHVEH as well. Isn''t it?

"Then the LORD said to Moses, "See, I make you as God to Pharaoh, and your brother Aaron shall be your prophet.""

GOD''S WORD® Translation (©1995)
The LORD answered Moses, "I have made you a god to Pharaoh, and your brother Aaron is your prophet.

King James Bible
And the LORD said unto Moses, See, I have made thee a god to Pharaoh: and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet.
 
Jaroslav   11/16/2008 12:09 AM
11 .  dwag
your dragging your wife & any children you have. your tryin to drag Christians, too, but theyre too smart for you.
 
  11/13/2008 9:43 PM
12 .  Rebekah did you know that Moses was as a God to pharaoh?
I will write to you later on when I have more time.
 
Jaroslav   11/12/2008 11:30 PM
13 .  Y''''shua is Adonai. But Yahshua is not JAHVEH.
Paul said there are many lords (adonais) and there are many gods(elohims) but for us there is only one God (Elohim) JAHVEH our Father. 1 Cor 8:4-6
 
Jaroslav   11/12/2008 1:04 PM
14 .  Cap, JAHSHUA means God''s Salvation.
"""Hosea 13
4 "But I am the LORD your God,
who brought you out of [b] Egypt.
You shall acknowledge no God but me,
no Saviour except me.
Jesus is not salvation, it is G-d alone."""
That is why He is Jahshua which means JAHVEH''s Salvation. And you Jew do not know that? It is so simple that any one could easily understand and accept it. He is God''s Salvation. If that is The Way how God has chosen to save all men including Jews then who are we to object? Please do not reject God''s way again. You have done it many times before and it always turned to be a disaster for whole nation.
 
Jaroslav   11/12/2008 12:49 PM
15 .  Carol P
Thank you for the John 6 passage. The 1John 2:19 verse was speaking of false bretheren, those who professed faith for a time, but walked away. They never really knew Christ or they would have stayed. Paul speaks of these in 2 Cor 11:26 & Gal 2:4. I DO believe in the SECURITY of the believer. But in some cases people do apostasize. I will never believe Rebekah and dawg ever really KNEW CHRIST, only to BLASPHEME His Holy NAME now! Jesus is THE HOLIEST OF ALL. That is the position I take.
 
Jim Borge   11/12/2008 11:13 AM
16 .  Yeshua is ALREADY SEPERATING
the wheat from the tares. He is coming soon. The tares will be burned up.
 
Jim Borge   11/12/2008 10:43 AM
17 .  TIME WILL TELL- CAPTAINDWAG
Adonai will sort the wheat from the tares.

 
  11/12/2008 3:29 AM
18 .  8:20 PM
Wow, I''m really worried. *yawn*. Some guy condemns us for quoting Moses and the prophets, and not believing in the man-non-god from Babylon. You can believe Paul or you can believe the oracles of G-d Almighty written by his prophets. I''ll stick with the Holy One of Israel, and remember what Moses said about not following other teachers that contradict Torah, even if they work miracles. Any man who equates himself with G-d is a false prophet. Do yourself a favor and listen to Rebekah, at least consider her quotes from the TN''K. It''s not a sin to use your brain, ya know?

And don''t worry, we''re not dragging anyone down with us. You are all dedicated to your paganism.

And yes, we pray for G-d alone to have mercy on our sinful souls.
 
captaindawg   11/11/2008 10:12 PM
19 .  Rebekah, captiandwag
You guys are putting yourselves to eternal death, and every person you drag along with you.
May the God of Abraham have mercy on your sick, dark souls.
 
Y''shua is Adonai   11/11/2008 8:20 PM
20 .  You are RIGHT, Jim B!!!
They never knew Jesus in their hearts!! John 6: 36-40
36But as I told you, you have seen me and still you do not believe. 37All that the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never drive away. 38For I have come down from heaven not to do my will but to do the will of him who sent me. 39And this is the will of him who sent me, that I SHALL LOOSE NONE OF ALL THAT HE HAS GIVEN ME, BUT RAISE THEM AT THE LAST DAY. 40For my Father''s will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day."

They are blind to His Truth. There is none so blind as WILL NOT SEE.

God bless





 
Carol P   11/11/2008 7:24 PM
21 .  REBEKAH YOU ARE WRONG. IF PEOPLE MADE JAHSHUA WHAT HE NEVER
claimed to be it will be not His fault. God will ask them: "Who told you that God is trinity? No answer. Christ never did, apostles never did, The Bible never did. Trinitarians are deceived in one way and you Jewish unbelievers in Messiah The Son of God are deceived in another.
"""SHOWING HIMSELF THAT HE IS GOD. 2 Thess 2:3-4 NKJ""" That was not Christ as he never claimed to be God.
 
Jaroslav   11/11/2008 1:39 PM
22 .  To Edward
Thank you, You write the truth in your postings, it is uplifting to read them.

May God Bless You
 
C Gill   11/11/2008 12:27 PM
23 .  Borge II
We can not have relationship with Father if we reject the Son (1John 5:11-13) for The Son is The way between God and men. He is our High Priest. Without Him we are trying to come to God in our own garments which are not white at all but which are in fact filthy rags.
 
Jaroslav   11/11/2008 12:07 PM
24 .  Borge we can loose salvation. No matter how saved we are.
Man can be saved and he can loose his salvation if he chooses it that way. Again, God gave us free choice. It is up to Cap and Rebekah to decide if they will keep going till the end or will give up. It is up to every individual. It is our choice. Nobody can snatch us out of God''s hand (John 10:28-30) but God will not stop us if we want to leave ourself. Other ways Cap and Rebekah would not be unbelievers but belivers today.
""But the one who endures to the end, he will be saved."" Matt.24:13 Mark 13:13
Rev.3:5 ""He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white garments and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels."" So the name can be bloted out of The Book of Life after all. To blot it out has to mean that it was there before and will be not there after.
Our relationship is with Father and with His Son. 1John1:3. It is up to us to keep that relationship alive till the end. We can not have relationship with Fath
 
Jaroslav   11/11/2008 12:04 PM
25 .  BENFOX: Disregard the heretic!
1 John 2:19 describes Rebekah and dawg to a tee:

"They went out FROM us, but they were not OF us, for if they had been OF us, they would no doubt have CONTINUED with us: but they WENT OUT, that they might be made MANIFEST that they were not all OF us". [My emphasis added]
 
Jim Borge   11/11/2008 11:35 AM
26 .  Benfox God is called Savior and Christ is also called Savior
It is God who saves us through His Son so in fact God''s salvation is extended to all mankind through His Son Jahshua and that is exactly what the name of Jahshua means= Jahveh''s Salvation.
 
Jaroslav   11/11/2008 11:21 AM
27 .  Benfox Did I mentioned tongs? If yes then that is what I
mant."Languages".
 
Jaroslav   11/11/2008 11:14 AM
28 .  BENFOX
I do not believe for one MINUTE that Rebekah and dawg were truly SAVED! Jesus knew that Yehuda Ish Kariot was not a true follower and believer! FRANK posted recently that the false church has grown alongside the TRUE. NO PERSON WHO HAS EVER KNOWN YESHUA CAN CALL HIM A MERE MAN AND ANTICHRIST. These two are TARES that Jesus seperated from the wheat. Oh, they sat in church, read the Bible, and "spoke in tongues", but they NEVER belonged to Him COMPLETLY! "Even the demons BELIEVE and TREMBLE". These BLASPHEMERS do not!
 
Jim Borge   11/11/2008 10:55 AM
29 .  ben
That last line was:

May G-d bless you Benfox
 
cap   11/11/2008 9:28 AM
30 .  ben
Psalms 18:31 says "For who is God save the Lord? or who is a rock save our God?

I completely agree.

What happened is I read the bible till my eyes bugged out. It didn''t take me away from G-d, it just showed me that the NT and the TN''K are incompatable. I saw too many disagreements between the two to keep my beliefs.

As far as the NT verses, I don''t take these as scripture anymore.

If you can stand it, read "We are not going to burn in hell" by SJ Greenstein. You don''t have to agree, but it will either give you pause or give you more reason to believe in jesus. If you are right, what do you have to lose? I read this book after I decided to believe in G-d alone (Judaism) and I found it very helpful for me.

No, Rebekah and I are not interchangeable, I don''t know who she is. I will say that I am for real, though. I post here sometimes because I was where many of you are a short time ago. I have actually been to IsraelToday in Jerusalem! They are very nice folks.

Ma
 
cap   11/11/2008 9:27 AM
31 .  dawg, are you and rebechah interchangeable?
I hear she was a believer at one time also, what happened to take you away form God. I know you think the God of the OT is one and I agree, one God revealed in three persons. God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit. All are seen in Gen and the Crea8tion. Jesus was the rock that was rejected. Psalms 18:31 says "For who is God save the Lord? or who is a rock save our God? Psalms 19:1" The heavens declare the glory of God: and the firmanmetn showeth his handywork. John says "In the beginning was the Word (Jesus) and the Word was with God and the Word was God" This read in context says that God wasn''t calling Himself God but was talking about God the Word. Jesus said, if you have seen me, you have seen the Father. It''s pretty clear that Jesus is God and Jesus said he had to go so that the Comforter could come and that was God the Holy Spirit. Again, these Three are One. Hope you return to him, if you were a christian at age 6.
 
BENFOX   11/11/2008 9:08 AM
32 .  ben
you''re right, witches DO speak in tongues, a great reason not not do it. It is sorcery.
 
cap   11/11/2008 8:50 AM
33 .  jim
My lips will not call "that man" Lord.
G-d alone is my lord and savior, the bible says so.

You are far from Torah, saying the name of jesus is above the teragrammaton.

I was a "spirit-filled" christian from my year of 6 through 38. All my family is christian. I have read the NT more times than I can remember.

Now, I worship HaShem alone, period.
 
cap   11/11/2008 8:47 AM
34 .  jar, satanist talk in tongues also and I know they
don''t know the God of the Bible. Tongues were known laungages used by God to spread the gospel. Read in Acts, all understood in their own laungages not babble I guess dawg believes that makes him a christian, if so a lot of cults and satanist must be christians, I know that is wrong from the get go.
 
BENFOX   11/11/2008 8:45 AM
35 .  And, dawg...
WE do not hate your religion. YOU DO. You defile it with the teachings of godless rabbi''s who have rejected their only MESSIAH and their only hope of SALVATION: "NOT OF WORKS, LEST ANY MAN SHOULD BOAST". Only a TRUE JEW will accept JESUS as Messiah. You, sir, are of the Synagogue of Satan (REV. 2 and 3)!
 
Jim Borge   11/11/2008 8:45 AM
36 .  ben
G-d plainly says at least three times he is not a man.

If you want to explore "echad", go to messiahtruth.com and look under "is the trinity found in the Torah".

I don''t argue with ya''ll for fun, G-d alone is your savior.
 
cap   11/11/2008 8:41 AM
37 .  captaindawg, ONE LAST TIME!
Jesus Christ is not "the jeezer"! His NAME IS ABOVE ALL NAMES, IN HEAVEN, ON EARTH, AND UNDER THE EARTH. AND BEFORE HIM EVERY KNEE SHALL BOW (including yours), AND ALL LIPS SHALL CONFESS THAT JESUS CHRIST IS LORD! By the way, I never believed you had been a true Christian-I do not care how many years you spoke in tongues...
 
Jim Borge   11/11/2008 8:38 AM
38 .  jar
If G-d alone is my savior, why do I need another?

It is blasphemy to say so, brother-man.


 
cap   11/11/2008 8:36 AM
39 .  Why is God called the Savior in the OT and jesus
is called the Savior in the NT? Thats right, jar and dawg only use the scriptures that fit their false religion. Both of you need to know your Messiah and He is God the Son. The one who came in the flesh to Save Israel and was rejected and is still being rejected by you today. God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit, these Three are One.
 
BENFOX   11/11/2008 8:34 AM
40 .  woops!
that first verse is Deut 32
 
cap   11/11/2008 8:33 AM
41 .  jaroslav
39 "See now that I myself am He!
There is no god besides me.
I put to death and I bring to life,
I have wounded and I will heal,
and no one can deliver out of my hand.

that means no one else, Jar.

G-d alone is salvation.
again:

Hosea 13
4 "But I am the LORD your God,
who brought you out of [b] Egypt.
You shall acknowledge no God but me,
no Savior except me.

jesus is not salvation, it is G-d alone
 
cap   11/11/2008 8:31 AM
42 .  jaroslav
Isa 60
16 You will drink the milk of nations
and be nursed at royal breasts.
Then you will know that I, the LORD, am your Savior,
your Redeemer, the Mighty One of Jacob.


 
cap   11/11/2008 8:23 AM
43 .  Cap then you would still be in physical Egypt
If you would not trust Moses then you would still be a slave in Egypt, friend. Also if you do not trust Messiah then you are still in spiritual Egypt. Like one who was drowning and refused life saving ring thrown by men. He was waiting for God to save him. He drowned.
 
Jaroslav   11/11/2008 8:06 AM
44 .  Benfox is this the scripture you are after?
“”””Deut.6:4 “Listen, O Israel! JAHVEH (The Lord) is our God, JAHVEH (the Lord) alone.”””” There is no plural but one and only one God.

 
Jaroslav   11/11/2008 7:59 AM
45 .  jaroslav
I appreciate your comments, I think it is good you worship G-d alone. I do not, however, wait for a man, or put my trust in a mortal.

G-d bless you
 
captaindawg   11/11/2008 7:22 AM
46 .  I know the Bible well enough that you can''t answer
simple questions. The NT is the inspired Word of God, you might do well to read it or not use verses out of context to fit your false belief.
 
dawg, you need to read the whole Word of God, and   11/11/2008 7:10 AM
47 .  jar and dawg, read all the scriptures not just the ones
you want. Can''t explain the one''s I gave you, just like your fussy religious leaders did in the past. Why won''t you comment on the scriptures I presented? I think we know why, blind is as bind does.
 
BENFOX   11/11/2008 7:07 AM
48 .  Cap you are right III
Unless they accept God’s food and cloths and His Name. Christ is the bread of life which God offers you. He is God’s clothes for you. It is a free gift. All you need to do is to take it, accept it.


 
Jaroslav   11/11/2008 7:01 AM
49 .  Cap you are right II
going out of Egypt in physical sense. God chosen His Son to be savior of all men in spiritual sense. And also we can see many verses in The New Testament where Christ is called The Savior. So God saves us all who believe in God and in His provision for our salvation believing in Jahshua Christ. John 14:1 is so clear. “Believe in God and believe also in me”. For God appointed Him to be the way to God, High Priest, the mediator between God and men. 1Tim.2:5 "For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus". Our fellowship is with God and His Son. 1John 1:3
Your mistake however is that you rejected Messiah, mediator whom God send that all who accepted Him will have everlasting life.
Tell me how can you stand before God without mediator? What will be your excuse for not accepting Messiah? Will you be like those seven in Isaiah 4:1? Those wanted to eat their own food and clothed with their own cloths yet that will not take their reproach. Unless they accept God’s food and clo
 
Jaroslav   11/11/2008 7:00 AM
50 .  Cap you are right
Cap, you are right in more then one thing. First is that you believe in ONE TRUE GOD JAHVEH Almighty (Although you do not call God by His true Name Ex.3:15). Faith in ONE TRUE GOD is what first Christians, true Christians believed as well. It is enough to go trough New Testament where one can find that it is exactly what Christ has taught and what apostles have taught. Word of God does not support any trinity nonsense at all. It is paganistic pantheistic doctrine which crept into Christianity after pioneers were long gone to rest. It is sad that so many in Christianity hold to this blind believes. That is good point of your faith. Do not give up on that one.
The second is that you believe that God alone is your savior. That is correct as well. God is the Savior of all men. God is ultimate Savior Luk 1:47 1Tim.1:1 1Tim.2:3 1Tim.4:10 Titus 2:10
However God can choose whom ever He wants to do His work of Salvation. God chosen Moses to be savior to Israelites going out of Egypt in physic
 
Jaroslav   11/11/2008 6:59 AM
51 .  ben, carolp
it''s funny, I show you where the book says G-d is not a man, and G-d alone is salvation, and people that put their trust in a man are cursed, and you curse me!

Yet you believe in a trinity, that is not in the book, and that defies these scriptures, and you call yourself right!

It''s hopeless. Why do you bother with anything even quasi-Jewish?
 
captaindawg   11/11/2008 6:54 AM
52 .  benfox
"You just called God the Son the anti-christ"

Adonikam came out of Babylon with a family numbering 666.
(Ezra 2:13)

Adonikam means "the lord is risen, the lord is raised up, the lord of rising,etc."

Before you start trashing me, maybe you should read your Bible.

Jer 17
5 This is what the LORD says:
"Cursed is the one who trusts in man,
who depends on flesh for his strength
and whose heart turns away from the LORD.


 
captaindawg   11/11/2008 6:45 AM
53 .  no name, no brain, use any name, you know I don''t
go to your foolish websites. you read them, they are on your level of thought not mind. Read the Bible, you''ll get more out of it, how''s the cell tonight?
 
BENFOX   11/11/2008 6:44 AM
54 .  Glad I won''t be in your shoes on judgement day
dawg. You just called God the Son the anti-christ. Your religious leaders rejected Him once and now you want to do it again. Hope you wake up and learn about your God who is God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit, these three are One. the word in Deut. 6:4 echad is a compound plural, I know you don''t like that, it destroys your unbiblical comments. Elohim is a plural and the pronouns us and our also discrible God and you don''t like that either because your religious leaders who once believed that change for fear of the roman government, not because the scriptures don''t explain who God is? Hope you would read all the scriptures and not just the one''s you think agree with your false beliefs. Pray that you will before it''s to late and you end up worshiping the anti-christ who will enable you to build a temple that he will set his image up in, if you are there, you will know.
 
BENFOX   11/11/2008 6:26 AM
55 .  Carol
With the Rabbinical High Court annulling 40,000 converts to Judaism how is it that these people can''t see that they are not under the Law . They don''t meet the requirements to be Jews . When Jesus comes back they will be left with out a friend . Then it will be too late!

 
Charles   11/11/2008 5:47 AM
56 .  Cap, How''s this?
Many here have shown you over and over from many parts of the Bible that Jesus is the Messiah, that he is not only the Son of God, but is God. He professed that He is the I AM God, He proclaims that He is God, & the Holy Spirit of God has shown us this is TRUTH. Moses wrote of Jesus! David wrote of Him! Isaish wrote of Him! The TNK if full of Jesus, but instead, you choose to deny Him, & rather follow the vain teachings of men who present ''holiness'' on the outside, but are full of hatred on the inside. You do not ''know the Bible'', because you cannot see the Messiah in those Holy pages. It is not believable that you EVER had any true knowledge of our Lord & Savior Jesus Christ! It is clear you only had head knowledge & not heart knowledge. Only God can open your heart, your mind, your eyes to the TRUTH of His Son. He would if you would but ask. All sin is forgivable except blaspheming the Holy Spirit. I pray you will ask God to show you HIS truth that Jesus IS His Son, that they are ONE.


 
Carol P   11/11/2008 5:27 AM
57 .  ben
you think i''m a muslim? What kind of muslim quotes the TN''K?

You don''t read rebekah because you can''t take a different opinion than what you believe. Jews (and converts) don''t believe in jesus because it is a pagan religion. We believe this because that''s what the bible says. I said you need to read your bibles because you''ll find that a man named "the lord is risen" is numbered 666.
 
captaindawg   11/11/2008 4:32 AM
58 .  captain
all i have to say is i don''t read her ''''message'''' of half truths,she prints out so much few take the time to read it..carols comment to me,3:30 am say''s it all about rebeckah she''s entitled to her opinion just like you.that doesn''t mean we agree.what a laught''''we need to read our bibles''''you make me laught,,i think your muslim,dog!
 
Ben from Texas   11/11/2008 4:24 AM
59 .  carol p
"or are you too here just to get under people''''s skin?"

I just by every now and then to read what people are saying. I post like that sometimes just to give people something to think about.

It bothers me that so many people that claim to "know the Bible", are practicing pagans. Obviously, anyone that says anything against your beliefs is reviled.
 
captaindawg   11/11/2008 4:21 AM
60 .  carol P
"I am sorry you turned your back on your only hope of salvation."

How is this? I just showed you in Hosea that G-d said He was not a man and He alone is salvation. G-d is my salvation, not the jeezer.
 
captain   11/11/2008 4:07 AM
61 .  charles
And how am I so "dumb"?
 
captain   11/11/2008 4:03 AM
62 .  Carol
With the Rabbinical High Court annulling 40,000 conversions recently you would think that the Converts would get the Idea that they are up the wrong tree . When Jesus comes back they will be left up that tree .
 
Charles   11/11/2008 3:55 AM
63 .  Captain Dog
We cant say anything that would make you look any dumber than you have just done . Good job bud !
 
Charles   11/11/2008 3:48 AM
64 .  cap
you think you''re funny you are NOT.
I am sorry you turned your back on your only hope of salvation. Jesus is, ws, and always will be the Holy One of Israel. He is the Messiah. He is the great I AM God who sopke to Moses. He is the Alpha & Omega, the beginning & the end, the Alef & Tov. He is the way, the truth & the life. NONE can come to the Father except through HIM. You have been dooped, and I suspect Rebekah is the one doing the dooping.
You do realize that Israel Today is a MESSIANIC News letter, don''t you??? If you are so sincere in your beliefs that Jesus is not the Messiah, but a mere man, perhaps you would be happier posting on another site one that embrasses your views......or are you too here just to get under people''s skin? Well, I''ve got news for you I have on the full armor of God. Your arrows wil not pepetrate.
I pray that the Lord will open your eyes to the truth of His Son Jesus, for not only are you heading in the wrong direction, but you are dragging along your wife & s
 
Carol P   11/11/2008 3:44 AM
65 .  Hi Ben from Texas
I know Rebekah is here to stir up trouble & try to draw God''s children away from Him. She fails to realize that Nobody can take what is His from His hand. She spouts half truths, takes scripture out of context, & wastes many hours posting delusions here. Once in a while I can''t resist giving it back to her. I will be resisting her posts altogether, then I won''t be drawn into arguing with her, that way I won''t ''loose my Christianity'' & say something not so pleasing to the Lord!!
We are doing okay at home. Haven''t heard about my older son''s blood work yet, & he hasn''t had his CT scan, so we don''t know yet if the cancer is back or not. I''m thinking possitively about it. God healed him, & I believe whatever is wrong is something else. I do believe God may well bring him to his knees once again,& that''s a good thing. God removed the worry from me long ago about this thing, I know God is in control, & all things work together for good for those who love Him.
God bless, Ben, your wife
 
Carol P   11/11/2008 3:30 AM
66 .  ya''ll be good
and I''ll see ya later, spiritual aligators.
 
cap   11/11/2008 3:28 AM
67 .  to: anonomous
How is that for putting a sock in it?
 
cap   11/11/2008 3:26 AM
68 .  Anyone?
Anyone want to talk about how believing in the jeezer is total blasphemy and paganism?

"the lord is risen" is a man whose number is 666 !!!!

you folks need to read your bibles.
 
Captaindawg   11/11/2008 3:25 AM
69 .  Ari
Nobody needs you smart mouth on this site . Everybody is stupid that does not agree with you, is that right ? You have it all figured out do you? Then why haven''t you figured out that your wasting your time on this site ? Why do you insist in wasting you valuable time trying to teach us lowly people your higher way . Tighten up your Turban and head to an Islamic site '' I''m
sure they will love you .
 
Charles   11/11/2008 3:23 AM
70 .  3:02 AM
Really? Why? Rebekah and I are mostly just quoting scripture. Why should I be intimidated for believing in G-d alone? Are you going to kill me in the jeezers'' name?
 
captaindawg   11/11/2008 3:14 AM
71 .  3:02 AM
nope
 
captaindawg   11/11/2008 3:08 AM
72 .  edward
that''s nice, but G-d said He alone is salvation.

Hosea 11
9 I will not carry out my fierce anger,
nor will I turn and devastate Ephraim.
For I am God, and not man—
the Holy One among you.
I will not come in wrath. [c]

Hosea 13
4 "But I am the LORD your God,
who brought you out of [b] Egypt.
You shall acknowledge no God but me,
no Savior except me.

So we see that G-d is not a man and we are not to acknowledge any savior except Him.

Jesus said the Father was greater than he, soo.....what?
 
captaindawg   11/11/2008 3:07 AM
73 .  BENFOX, "WE WON''T REMAIN IN THE KITCHEN"!
Jesus "paid-it-ALL"!!! GOD recognized that it was impossible for "MAN" to redeem himself. Man would have to meet GOD''s "standard of requirement" in order to redeem himself! Man had to be "Holiness-Absolute", and had to have "KEPT EVERY COMMANDMENT" with out exception, to 100%!!! No-MAN qualified as to GOD''s standard of redeeming, for "all have sinned, AND COME SHORT OF THE GLORY..".

Out of this "horrible, hopeless-scene",.. Jesus came into the world. He came as the "only begotten of the Father". He came as "the Holy One of Israel" Who was "without sin" (yet, was rejected by His own). Yes, Jesus ALONE..could bring salvation to all men, every where on earth! Through Jesus, the ONLY Holy-Man Who has ever-lived, only HE could die (for our sin), be buried and (be) raised from the grave, on the third day, as our "Blessed Redeemer"!

Jesus has taken "the judgment" for every believer. The "tribulation" on earth is to those who "rejected Jesus'' sacrifice" [Acts 4: 12]!

 
Edward   11/11/2008 2:59 AM
74 .  ari
You know, I sort of admire you. At least you just come out and say you are against Israel. Instead of pretending to like them, and at the same time hating their religion.
 
cap   11/11/2008 2:38 AM
75 .  gloria
"many abominations!"

I know, most of these people seem to be saying a man is G-d.

It''s terrible.
 
captaindawg   11/11/2008 2:36 AM
76 .  "The man-of-sin", the antichrist advances
He moves subtly upon the stage of earth as the "false-Christ" riding a white horse establishing "peace" on earth. He is a man of "lying-wonders" so he can decieve "most who dwell on earth" (billions of people).

Israel (who said, "we have "no-king" but Caesar") will recognize this man (who will be many-times, worse-to-them-than A. Hitler) as a "man-of-wonders", and will enter into a (false) peace for seven years, with the antichrist.

Jesus said (in John 5: 43), "I come in My Father''s Name, and ye (O, House of Israel) receive Me not. If another (antichrist) shall come in his own name, him ye will receive". That was 2,000 years ago, but leading up to this "moment".

Upon Israel''s signing the seven-year peace treaty (Daniel 9: 27) with antichrist, the tribulation commences on earth! and the "terror" of the latter-half of the 7 year period has never been seen before on earth! This is known as the "Time of Jacob''s trouble"!

 
Edward   11/11/2008 2:29 AM
77 .  Many Abominations!

 
Gloria   11/11/2008 2:27 AM
78 .  Olmert quote:
“His name will be engraved in golden letters on the heart of the State of Israel,” Olmert said. “The $30 billion we received over 10 years are only the very tip of the iceberg of the things Bush has given us.”

Excuse me, but that was the American taxpayer''s money that went to Israel. It wasn''t Bush''s. Be nice to have that back, for this country. And every other penny sent abroad.
 
Steve   11/11/2008 2:25 AM
79 .  Only to those who are losing their soul.

 
BKN   11/11/2008 2:24 AM
80 .  Frank
Frank you can think and say, that what I say is false doctrine all you want, it''s not. Why do you think that the churches in America and others that (once) held onto the Bible as their authority will not suffer persection, like those in the third world countries are having and have had. Why do you think we really got Obama for king? To many in this country do not believe The Authority of G-D''s Word...I do. That is why we got Obama. The U.S is a abomination under G-D Frank. The church is to blamed, not the unsaved. Hirelings give people what they want instead of giving them what G-D says they need. A good Pastor protects the flock,by the Grace of G-D I''m being protected by Sound Doctrine.
 
Gloria   11/11/2008 2:23 AM
81 .  jim
"JESUS WROTE THE BIBLE (OLD AND NEW TESTAMENTS)"

If this is true, than the jeezer is a liar, because he repeatedly said he was not a man.

It''s a mystery, huh?
 
captaindawg   11/11/2008 2:17 AM
82 .  jim
but the way we see it, it is you who is committing the blasphemies. Are you averse to dissenting opinions?
 
captaindawg   11/11/2008 2:14 AM
83 .  Rebekah-Enough with your BLAPHEMIES!
"So, Jesus cannot have been so well versed in the Bible"
Rebekah-Norway

JESUS WROTE THE BIBLE (OLD AND NEW TESTAMENTS)

And no, dawg, israel today is not a place for blasphemers and heretics!
 
Jim Borge   11/11/2008 2:08 AM
84 .  BENFOX, "Time" has to pass for the peace treaty with Israel
The "tribulation" begins when antichrist signs the "peace-treaty" with Israel (Daniel 9: 27).

From the "translation" of the TRUE church (not the R.C. church, which recognizes Mary as a "co-Redeemer"), a brief period of time passes here on earth as the antichrist ("the beast", who rises out of the sea (Revelation 13: 1, 2) is recognized by the world as the "political ruler" of the revived Roman Empire! The beast was like a "leopard" (vs. 2) who engulfs the 3 previous "Gentile" empires (Greek, Persian, Babylonian), but takes-on all of their characteristics.

In heaven, John writes what he sees as the Lamb of God (the resurrected Jesus, the coming Messiah of Israel) opens "the seven-sealed book", (Rev. 5: 1 thru 6: 2).

John here is a "representative" of the "church" which is "caught-up" (I Thess. 4: 13-18) out of the judgment that is beginning here on earth, at the same time. The antichrist moves into recognition of/by the masses ( the sea of humanity) as he advances as a "rider on a white h
 
Edward   11/11/2008 2:07 AM
85 .  rebekah
Wait a minute, are you saying that killing for the jeezer is bad???!!
 
captaindawg   11/11/2008 1:59 AM
86 .  To Ari
You know, I''ll have to agree with you Ari, that it was pretty dumb of me to ever think, that you have the capabilities to understand what I was trying to say to you. That it''s you with the attitude, a bad attitude. I don''t know what I could have been thinking of? So I won''t be wasting anymore of my time, or yours trying. Because you just don''t get it!
 
Joyce W   11/11/2008 1:55 AM
87 .  ben
"Rebekah is on this site to stir up trouble like the others"

She is trying to show you the idolatry of the xtian book, not stir up trouble for the sake of it.

Isn''t this site supposed to be some kind of mix of Judaism and xtianity? Why can''t Jews and Noachides speak their mind as well? I don''t see how dialogue is bad for anyone.

Preach on, Becky!
 
captaindawg   11/11/2008 1:51 AM
88 .  To Gloria
I am fully aware of the foundation of the ''ecclesia/church''. I do agree with you about a lot of the ''Early Church Fathers''. That is not in question. What I''m saying is even some of those ''saw'' the pre trib rapture.
As FRANK pointed out, the false church sprang up alongside the true
and it is still right alongside it. Discernment is needed more than ever today.
 
C Gill   11/11/2008 1:20 AM
89 .  rebekah
I don''t think that was out of context.

Sooo....what? Seems to me about right for the xtian book.
 
captaindawg   11/11/2008 1:09 AM
90 .  the one your full of number 2

 
  11/11/2008 12:59 AM
91 .  Hi Carol
Hope you and yours are ok we''re fine,Rebekah is on this site to stir up trouble like the others,i feel sorry for them because they are truly lost,the only hope they have is what your doing,showing them that they are wrong,we can also pray for their lost souls and hope Jesus someday saves them like he did us,,God bless
 
Ben from Texas   11/11/2008 12:51 AM
92 .  REBEKAH!!!!
How dare you you twist the Word of Jesus to meet your diabolical schemes!!
You quote Luke 19:27 totally out of context and you know it. You know darned good & well Jesus was NOT telling people to bring His enemies before Him & slay them, but that He was teaching a parable.
I''ll thank you not to slander the Holy Word of God again.
 
Carol P   11/10/2008 11:34 PM
93 .  I also agree with C. Gill and FRANK

 
Jim Borge   11/10/2008 11:28 PM
94 .  Thank You BKN,
My dear sister I appreciate your support, and you explained the meaning of my comment to Ari very well. God bless you.
 
Joyce W   11/10/2008 11:21 PM
95 .  I am in absolute agreement, C.Gill and FRANK.

 
BKN   11/10/2008 10:37 PM
96 .  rebekah
I am enjoying your comments, as usual.
 
captaindawg   11/10/2008 10:16 PM
97 .  C Gill
Shalom sister,
Be carefull, I don''t know what web site Gloria is getting her doctrine, but it is false. God has always had His true church in the world since pentacost and the false church sprang up right alonside. God gave his children discernment to distinguish between the two. Just like you said, we are indwelt with the Holy Spirit and when He is taken out of the way, His Temple (we the body of Christ) go with Him!
God bless you and all true believers in Jesus Christ
God bless Israel
 
FRANK   11/10/2008 9:50 PM
98 .  C Gill...Gloria
The Foundation of the church is Moses, Prophets, and the Apostles and the Cornerstone is Christ. There are no other fathers but these. Sorry C Gill but alot of those church fathers that you are taking about caused alot of hatred for born again jew and gentile, they never really broke away from the Roman Catholic Church. They all tried to heal Babylon, but Babylon can not be healed. I will research what you said, and get back to you. With HIS love Gloria
 
Gloria   11/10/2008 9:38 PM
99 .  Cont... to Gloria
It''s untrue to say the pre trib wasn''t thought of until the 1800 and by Darbey. If you care to do some research of the early church fathers ie Clement,s writings, you will see that he alluded to it then, although it wasn''t called pre trib rapture, nevertheless it was there.

 
C Gill   11/10/2008 8:42 PM
100 .  Understanding to Gloria
The believers IN Christ Jesus have suffered persecution since Jesus first came to this earth, and it continues today, look at those Christians in other countries that are dying daily, amongst other persecutions. When God removes the Holy Spirit, who true believers are sealed with, they will go with him. The 144 thousand will be anointed with the Holy Spirit to Preach the Gospel, as were the Prophets (and any one else God chose) to do a specific work. I am not in agreement with your timing of the rapture but that is another matter, they are what we personally believe. As for this ''intra-trib'', I still don''t understand what you are talking about with it, and you are the only one I''ve ever heard use that term.
Shalom
 
C Gill   11/10/2008 8:12 PM
101 .  Wonderful Your Words were Ellie! TRUTH

 
Gloria   11/10/2008 8:01 PM
102 .  Understand Pt. 2
Pre-Trib was not even thought of untill the 1800 by John Nealson Darbey. Darbey started good but became a nut. Marg. McDonald saw this Pre-Trib thing through a vision she had. Look out for those who have visions...they are being deceived and deceive many. LORD Yeshua is ON HIS Throne...And HE IS COMMING BACK!!! Prepare for Persecution Untill HIS RETURN!!! Do you think I want Persecution NO, but will it come to the western nations YES ...it is already! G-D is Angry at HIS church...we have Failed to do what HE has Said. "Preach The Gospel". 1Corinthians1:18...Read. We are to plant seeds (The Word) G-D does the watering (Holy Sprit). Rightious anger I have now, the church has failed to do right in The Eyes of The LORD, and we are being Judged for it! Individually and as a church. "Will The LORD find Faith upon the earth" NO only a remnant.
 
Gloria   11/10/2008 7:58 PM
103 .  Rebekah indeed it was chilling, and it
all came to pass, with one more greatjudgement to come.
I speak of "The Times of Jacob''s Trouble" coming on those who have rejected the Saviour of the world, Yeshua/Jesus Christ.
This time of tribulation will fall on all who reject Jesus Christ, Jew or gentile.
Rebekah, I don''t know if you know Who Yeshua/Jesus is?
He is the Lamb of God who paid the sin debt for everyone who will repent and follow Him.
For those who do, there is no judgment. We have become children of the MOST HIGH GOD!!
ALL PRAISE TO HIS NAME FOREVER!
 
Ellie   11/10/2008 7:35 PM
104 .  Understanding
The Holy Sprit is just a breath away. The Holy Sprit will breath life (new life) in us when we are truly repentant and Believe John20:22, did they have power at that time NO, after 50 days (Pentecost) the Holy Sprit was poured out then,for Power to Preach the Gospel. When G-D removes the Holy Sprit from this world ( not from believers) HE will never lieve us,"I will never leave you" but we will no longer have power to preach The Gospel. Power will be given to 144 Thousand jews they will have Power from G-D to Preach The Gospel. The Believers of Christ will suffer Persecution, BUT NOT the Wath of G-D. We,us True Believers will be Raptured between the 6th&7th Seal Judgements, that is what Intra-Trib is...what the First Century jews Believed, and so do I.
 
Gloria   11/10/2008 6:59 PM
105 .  Double tongued Rebekah gluts the posts.

 
  11/10/2008 6:10 PM
106 .  That, Ari, had nothing to do with saying...
..it had to do with attitude, not content.

Stating a thought is what Joyce did, and you took it with the wrong attitude.

It is the attitude and spirit with which things are spoken that can be hurtful or destructive. This is what Joyce was hoping you would stop.

Sorry, Joyce, I don''t mean to speak for you, but this is what I see.

We certainly will differ, but hatred and animosity is just horrible, and has no healing value at all.
 
BKN   11/10/2008 5:20 PM
107 .  Tom B
I agree Israel screwed up their own elections but they were influence by our american dollars to put a weak leader in office like olmert who only wants to see the end of Israel,he''s a traitor in my book and should be Tared and feathered and sent to iran where his loyalities are!But my fellow americans picked the wrong leader this time also,Tom in my opinion,they should have put A independent in office ,someone who''s not influenced by extreme amounts of money .like the other parties are,,lobbyist should not be legal to influence the voting,this almost always goes against the public interest!Obama is a socialist!,he believes in more goverment ,not less ,he''s for abortion,which is against God laws and he for gay marriage also against God''s laws,,the american jews did not get it right either,they are blinded by God because they have forgetten Him..True bush is blinded also,he either does not know GOD gave israel this land or doesn''t care.either , he''s ignorant to allow the terrorist to get a foothold in g
 
Ben from Texas   11/10/2008 4:46 PM
108 .  What would Jesus DO...IF.. He were in the World?
He has been here since His Spirit entered into His disciples at Pentecost. To think He is far off is an illusion.

He sees and hears all that is spoken here, He knows ALL TRUTH...because He IS the TRUTH.

All the false statements on these posts are all open and clear to Him. Nobody is getting away with anything.

Surprise!! Jesus Christ has been among us all along, and He still isn''t recognized.
 
BKN   11/10/2008 4:44 PM
109 .  So true BKN, the evil one has everyone
running every which way but that of the Lords, we forget the evil one is good at casting confusion in everyone who is not cautious. Also right again about prophecy it is our warning of what not to do or the same things should happen to us. We keep forgeting to learn from our past so we always end up repeating it.Remember to keep your hearts true. God bless and Peace Always in Yeshua.
 
Matthew Joseph   11/10/2008 4:22 PM
110 .  I am glad American Jews voted for Obama
Israelis screw up their own elections. They always pick the wrong leaders.
The American Jews are the ones who get in right.

Bush pushed Israel into letting Gaza hold elections against Israel''s will. Bush was horrible for Israel. He put Israel''s security at risk.
 
Tom B.   11/10/2008 4:14 PM
111 .  Why Obama won the election
Obama won the election because the right decided to run a militant, McCain, and an idiot, Palin.

Obama was the best president to get for this time. If the right wanted to win, they should get out of the bedrooms of individual Americans. And worry about foreign policy and domestic economic issues.

Could you all imagine Sarah Palin running the country at time like this? This is extremely plausible b/c I believe McCain will be dead or gravely ill by the end of 2009.
 
Benjamin Cohen   11/10/2008 4:10 PM
112 .  Rabekah-Norway
quote from your posting 1:53
''Those thankful Jews, those who are still alive, will then become Christians and live happily ever after''.
I don''t know what type of ''Christian'' you''ve come across in the past, but a true believing Christian does NOT believe this.
We do believe they will recognise their Messiah though, who just happens to BE JEWISH, the one they rejected when He first came.

Please research more before giving out your opinion or should I say the opinion of the rabbi''s you follow.
 
C Gill   11/10/2008 3:09 PM
113 .  Obama''s ideology
A a moslem he shall assume Jerusalem is established as an Islamic holy shrine forever.

However pious Moslems should realise that Jerusalem is to the Hebrews as Mecca is to them. Upon such realisation and implement a true peace where Islam and other nations can harmoniously live among one another.
 
S   11/10/2008 12:42 PM
114 .  Jim Borge - I think we`re wasting our breath !
Hi Jim, no-one can say that we have`nt tried, but trying to point Jaroslav in the right direction is hard work ! He thinks SARCASM is a Meditteranean island and ANAGRAM a medical condition ! How is that female dog by the way ? That really brought a smile ! God bless you Jim,and Israel !
 
H.Hodges   11/10/2008 12:40 PM
115 .  Ari do you atack a Corner Stone of Salvation or do you just
challenge their false believes? Please be nice to Charles and others. Do not kick pricks.








 
Jaroslav   11/10/2008 10:08 AM
116 .  To Ari
I have to say, I am in agreement with Charles'' comment to you, except for the two points that he made about your intelligence and wisdom, that I cannot agree with. Not with the comments you have made, they show no intelligence or wisdom of any kind. And they show no sign of maturity, all your comments show is an immature and obnoxious person. Which you seem to think is a good thing, but please try to understand this, IT IS NOT A GOOD THING! And even though, you don''t agree with us on the subjects at hand, you could as difficult as it might be for you to do, at least try to be civil and act like an adult about it. And quit being so silly and childish.
 
Joyce W   11/10/2008 9:17 AM
117 .  Ben Fox, I never knew that you are so very special
“”I''''ll be at the bema seat of Christ and then at the Marriage Supper of the Lamb, I''''ll save you a seat.””” Wow, that is a nice thought Fox. So you are a Jew or Israelite? Or Spiritual Israelite? The part of 144000. Are you going to be on His right or on His left hand side? Can you save one seat next to you for me Sir? And what is it that we will be marked with? Can you tell me? Who will put mark on us? Is Christ in the air or is He at the right side of God right now pleading for us all. “Forgive them Father for they do not know what they do, for they do not know what they believe…”
 
Jaroslav   11/10/2008 9:08 AM
118 .  continued
and you will see the signs that say UN vio-spere, when did we give up the US to the UN, when congress pasted laws that said they control our government. We have been sold out and obama-nation who they wanted to be elected will over rule the just to the one world government. If you don''t believe me, that''s fine, check it out for yourself and I''ll say I''m a liar if you can prove me wrong. The man that own''s the Atlanta Braves gave one billion dollars to the UN and has posted the new ten commandments for the world and they don''t agree with God. I''m in the kitchen, and I can take the heat, can you?
 
BENFOX   11/10/2008 7:32 AM
119 .  Nothing says or implies that the anti-christ will
come out of the EU. The Roman Empire never over came Europe, they were stopped at Adrian''s wall and went no further. Rome was a world power as were the other nations before it. The UN fits the revided empire, it controls the world with 196 members who live somewhat by its rules. The US keeps it from being a world power and we just sold out. The next Sec. Gen will probaby be the anti-christ and they worship the New Age and rulers, a WORLD power, they don''t have to hide it, no one wants to believe it. The EU goes down with the rest of the world and can''t control all the nations. If that were true, the arabs control most of the wealth. Who did the UN want to come to power? obama-nation, not because he is the anti-christ but, he can deliver the US. I saw there map when I was there, 10 economic zones, sound like Bible? Quit listening to your no knowledge TV predictors and see where the power is. The US has so many UN zones now, all you have to do is go to a National Forest.
 
BENFOX   11/10/2008 7:25 AM
120 .  continued
will take those who belong to Him. Its not the second coming. At that time Jesus will come as he left, on a cloud on the mount of olives, He comes for His dead and alive in the air, which is not the second coming. He always has and will remove His own before He brings judgement. God Bless all those who believe this and those who don''t who won''t want to go back when He comes. Its not a escape, it is Gods mercy on Believers, even if you don''t want to be there, your more then welcome as Brothers and Sisters in Christ.
 
BENFOX   11/10/2008 7:14 AM
121 .  The anti-christ does break the treaty half way through
the tribulation, by putting up a image of himself, not by starting a war, could be wrong but, that is what the scripture says. I don''t see any mention of a war? Last I read in Thess, it doesn''t say anything about a war either. When believers are gone, so is the Holy Spirit since we are Holy Spirit filled and probaby the only reason God hasn''t brought His jusdgement, don''t mean to offend. Nancy in NYC, no fear, God is not out to judge believers and has proved it many times in the past. The only people I see that go untouched are the 144,000 that are marked Jews with His mark, not the anti-christ. People wake up, you can''t travel accross town without the government knowing where you are. Wish I knew where your going to hide? A cashless society, can''t buy, sell or anything else, going to grow your own and not be found out. Give me a break. I''ll be at the bema seat of Christ and then at the Marriage Supper of the Lamb, I''ll save you a seat. God Bless All Believer in Jesus Christ who in the air
 
BEWNFOX   11/10/2008 7:08 AM
122 .  The antichrist makes a "seven year peace treaty"..
with Israel (Daniel 9: 27), after the rapture of the church. The sequence of these events is "so clear" because the antichrist is restrained, held-back, "hindered" (from his debut out from the European nations) by God the Holy Spirit (II Thessalonians 2: 7 & 8, Rev. 13: 1 - 10).

The Jewish follower of Jesus, Paul said that the "spirit of antichrist was existing in his day. Paul called it "the mystery of iniquity", and he said it is already working, "only He Who now "hinders" will hinder, until He be taken out of the way. [The Holy Spirit is "caught-away" at the rapture] And then, shall that "wicked" be revealed (antichrist),..".

Antichrist will move to establish a 7 year "peace with Israel", permitting the Jews to begin temple worship (that were destroyed in 70 A.D.), in exchange for Israel laying down their weapon systems, and living in peace".

The Russian alliance breaks the "treaty" first (Ezekiel 38: 14, 15). Then antichrist violates and breaks the treaty [himself] half way through t
 
Edward   11/10/2008 6:18 AM
123 .  Thank you Don and C Gill
for your responses concerning the Rapture. The Baptist Church that this Jewish believer (me) attends teaches this as well. Hope we are all right ''cause I sure don''t want to be here when all "hell" breaks loose! Hey, do you think I can take my 2 cats with me?!!
 
Nancy in NYC   11/10/2008 6:17 AM
124 .  I agree with most of what you stated but,
the war of gog and magog may happen just before or just after the rapture, could you tell me why you believe it will happen at mid trib? Not questioning your comment, just like to know where your coming from? You could be very right bit would like a little scripture to point that out? The anti-christ will be revealed after were gone. I know that offends those that want to go through the tribulation, don''t mean to get on their case. As I said before, if they are right, no problem, God will work it out. Right now there is no prophecy I have ever read that says the war of gog and magog will be at the mid way point? I can always learn as can most of us. Either way, God Bless You and Your Beliefs.
 
BENFOX   11/10/2008 6:16 AM
125 .  Obama will probably be "no-threat" to Israel
The major war that Israel will face could be as soon as 3 years from now according to Bible prophecy. Ezekiel (38) draws attention to Russia organizing a large confederacy of armies from Persia (Iran), Togarmah and Gomer (Turkish region), from the north (of Jerusalem). Aggression from the south will come from Libya and Ethiopia, and others that support this "evil-alliance". The largest majority of the numbers of the soldiers in this army will be Islamic, because of their fierce hatred of Israel. "Yahweh" will "put hooks into the jaws" of Russia and all of her confederate-nations and draw them into judgment to face death and destruction (Ez. 38: 18-23).

The "bride of Christ", the "born-again believers" saved "by grace through faith in Christ" during the age of Grace will be "translated", or raptured-out (I Corinthians 15: 52, I Thessalonians 4: 13-18, Revelation 4: 1) ["come up hither] of this world, before "the Day of the Lord" begins on this earth. That is what the Bible teaches.

Obama is not
 
Edward   11/10/2008 5:39 AM
126 .  Charles, I know that we don''t always agree and you
don''t need me to agree with you but, you sure have it right my friend. God Bless You.
 
BENFOX   11/10/2008 5:29 AM
127 .  Arian
Why do you kick at the pricks . You are punishing your toes kicking at Cornerstone of Salvation that will not be moved .We shall not be moved ! You are just strengthening our resolve and our faith in Jesus . Your mission has failed , you have failed . You are intelligent but your prejudice has blinded you to truth . Your wisdom has failed you in a few things . Take Jaroslav and go where your views will register . Islamic forums will be better for you .
 
Charles   11/10/2008 5:02 AM
128 .  ari, it''s too bad you use that name, have many
Jewish friends with the same name, only they are good people and you and jar have a long way to go in order to get any respect from anyone. you won but the spiritual war still goes on and you lose as usual. obama-nation has won with the help of acorn and dead voters but, you still lose the war. you should go to the Hal Lindsey report, he sure has you guys figured out. As for a play on name''s, ari-head, you don''t come close to anything that takes a brain. jar, your so far out there that a open mind to you has already happened, all your brains fell out. use that towel for something good, clean up the mess. I''m sure you are welcome at the web site we want you to go to, you and your daddy are members in good standing there. To the rest of the God fearing Born Again Christians, God Bless everyone of you.
 
BENFOX   11/10/2008 4:43 AM
129 .  Borge I know that site and do not need any welcome there.
if you want to know truth you have to compare both sides or even more sides and be open minded.
O by the way what you mean by "A female DOG beat John McCain? " Who is female dog?
I like that verse of yours "Let God be TRUE and every man a LIAR" It only shows that we are all not true here and there, except you maybe??????


 
Jaroslav   11/10/2008 3:52 AM
130 .  Hodges, curse be to all secret missile sites.
As for spoiling my "beautiful" name which has got meaning with something without any meaning is not nice. Your name can be spoiled too. Perhaps something like: Hogass, but no offence to you, it was only a joke with your name for you are such a nice Christian gentleman full of love for all especially those who serve ONE TRUE GOD. John 17:3 1 Cor.8:6. As to my good friend Borge yes there will be survivors from all nations, tribes and tongs so that means there will be Iranians and there will be Israelis as well.
 
Jaroslav   11/10/2008 3:31 AM
131 .  Jar...
Try

http://www.aljazeera.com

They will welcome you with open arms.
 
Jim Borge   11/10/2008 3:12 AM
132 .  A female DOG beat John McCain?

 
Jim Borge   11/10/2008 3:07 AM
133 .  "Let God be TRUE and every man a LIAR"

 
Jim Borge   11/10/2008 3:05 AM
134 .  jar, the arab with only a rag on his head, to bad
it didn''t come with brains. Israel is surrounded by heratic''s like you and they need the nukes to PROTECT themselves, iran doesn''t, it has plenty of oil. The nukes are to use against Gods choosen people the Jews. As my brothers and sisters have well stated, the Jews are not the agressors and never have been. Take the towel of your head jar, so you can think straight. You don''t know God but a god of your sick imagination, jar you don''t have a clue and you should go to a arab site where your lies are welcome, not here friend. your god can''t defeat the God of Jews and Born Again Christians everywhere. Jesus said YOU MUST BE BORN AGAIN, that wasn''t a suggestion my friend but the truth. God Bless All my brothers and sisters on this site.
 
BENFOX   11/10/2008 3:01 AM
135 .  Nancy NYC
I also belive in the pretrib-Rapture because He ''JESUS'' will not set his foot on earth then but come in the clouds for his Bride but at His second coming He will set up His 1000yr rule that''s when He will set His foot on Mt. Olive we will be with Him to rule when he comes the second time LOOK UP it''s near
 
Don   11/10/2008 2:59 AM
136 .  Borge is back, Welcome. But you will be wrong again
as usual. Time will tell. In mean time let us pray that both of us will be wrong and all parties will work for peaceful settlement to the glory of God Almighty and His Son Jahshua our Lord.
 
Jaroslav   11/10/2008 2:40 AM
137 .  Good attempt Jaroslav !
Well done,not a bad come-back that ! It`s a fault of mine but I`m afraid that I cannot love those who deny such basic tennements such as The Holy Trinity ! By the way congratulations on your English - it`s coming on nicely - far better than my Russian ! God bless Israel, and their secret missile sites !!
 
H.Hodges   11/10/2008 2:24 AM
138 .  Help,I`m becoming obsessed by Jaroslav !
I`m even dreaming about this character and his Godless rants,and please forgive me but I`ve just had a vision of his anagram - ARSOLVAJ ! No offence intended Jaroslav,but humour (matter of opinion I know) is my way of dealing with heretics such as yourself,tho` I do ask God for your edification ! God bless Israel !!
 
H.Hodges   11/10/2008 2:19 AM
139 .  H. Hodges
Nice retort to the Iran lover. Of course God tells us of Iran''s demise in Eze. 38-39. Israel WILL survive but will not go unpunished. The punishment will be severe, but JUST. God bless you H. Hodges!
 
Jim Borge   11/10/2008 2:18 AM
140 .  Hodges and your price will be a visit to Israeli secret
missile site. In Israel I have been already. To do same to Iran I would love to. God bless Israel and God bless Iran and God bless all. Especially Hodges who is full of love for all men equally. Just as Christ has taught us.
 
Jaroslav   11/10/2008 2:15 AM
141 .  IRAN!

 
Jim Borge   11/10/2008 2:12 AM
142 .  Jaroslav - The jury is still out !
Please see Jaroslavs` latest "fun for all the family" quiz below. The lucky winner will recieve an all-expenses paid week in downtown Tehran,with an optional conducted tour of their secret misslie silos. Second prize will be TWO weeks,with a compulsory trip to the shrinks`,accompanied by Mr. Imamad dinnerjacket ! God bless Israel !!
 
H.Hodges   11/10/2008 1:50 AM
143 .  Who is biger threat to whom? Who is likely to start war?
Israel or Iran? What do you think?
 
Jaroslav   11/10/2008 1:23 AM
144 .  It seems that many have a "sketch" of the AC...
..an eye witness description, and every person that "seems" to look that that Biblical "sketch" is suspect.

Our focus should never be on the evil one, but on the Lord Who is our Lead.

The books of prophecy were NEVER meant to be a roadmap to follow, but a warning to observe with caution.

Those who belong to Jesus Christ have no fear of the false one coming, because Jesus Christ already OVERCAME the World''s prince. If we are IN Him, we are in His kingdom.

The World''s evil future is like a Tsunami...don''t run down to the beach to look around and see what is happening.


 
BKN   11/10/2008 12:20 AM
145 .  RE.. "DISCERNER OF THE THOUGHTS"
READ:

HEBREWS 12:27-
Re. "Discerner Of Thoughts And Intents Of The Heart"

HEBREWS 4:12
"That Those Things Which Cannot Be Shaken..."

FOR "WISDOM" SEE:

1 KINGS 3:16-28

SOLOMON HAD IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

JAMES 1:5 -"If Any Of You Lack Wisdom........"



 
BK   11/9/2008 8:56 PM
146 .  SCRIPTURE Ref. Correction 1 Kings 3:16-28
READ:

HEBREWS 12:27- Re. The "Shaking"

HEBREWS 4:12
"That Those Things Which Cannot Be Shaken..."

FOR "WISDOM" SEE:

1 KINGS 3:16-28

SOLOMON HAD IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

JAMES 1:5 -"If Any Of You Lack Wisdom........"


 
BK   11/9/2008 8:38 PM
147 .  ADDENDUM- IN SHORT FOR "NOW"
READ:

HEBREWS 12:27- Re. The "Shaking"

HEBREWS 4:12
"That Those Things Which Cannot Be Shaken..."

FOR "WISDOM" SEE:

1 KINGS 16:3-28

SOLOMON HAD IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

JAMES 1:5 -"If Any Of You Lack Wisdom........"

 
BK   11/9/2008 8:19 PM
148 .  Aristotle YOU LOST THE VOTE
you didn''t even get one vote, so maybe you should take Charles advice and PUT A SOCK IN IT BABY!

GOD BLESS ISRAEL
 
FRANK   11/9/2008 8:17 PM
149 .  THE "HUSSEIN-CRISIS"
Re. THE "SUDDENLIES" Barack HUSSEIN "IN" Obama (OSAMA!!!) May He Not Be!!

Followed By A 4-5 Day "STUN" Period


READ Hebrews 4:12

READ Hebrews 12:27
Re Shaking Of The Economy~

Moral "Values" Reorganised!!!
Calls Himself A Christian BUT ~ Where Are The Values???????????
Pro-“Choice” Gay Marriage OK Etc……………!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Iron Hand In Place –( Day After the Election Mayor in Phila.
Held Mtg. Behind Closed Doors~ Press Not Allowed-!!!!!
DRASTIC CUTS Due To Lack Of Funds- Schools to Be Closed
Swimming Pools (Cutback From Number Open) Libraries Open
Cutback- Firemen Cut Back Etc…………………..
This Never Happened Before~
This Man Declared Obama TO BE President - BEFORE he Was- IN!!!
How Much All This Pre- Arranged?????

National Security- N
 
BK   11/9/2008 8:12 PM
150 .  Well on the way for sure
Looking at the man Obama, there are so many pointers to his being well.....he could be the messiah. Now we know he is not. Or is he? It is almost as if he came from nowhere, in that both his parents have died and his grandmother the day before he became president. No birth certificate. He is both black and white, he is neither black nor white. He has a Muslim name and is said to be Muslim. He has a Jewish name and is said to be Jewish, it is also said he is a Christian. That way he is all in all, as he said: "there is a little bit of every body in me" Everybody likes him, even me. There are already three arrested for plotting to assassinate him. He is 47years old. For some reason I see a significance in his age.

Now read Rev 13. The beast is fatally wounded, but comes to life again, and all are FORCED to worship him.



 
  11/9/2008 7:43 PM
151 .  Obama is not the antichrist, The evil one
maybe influeancing him for the evil ones entrance, we forget the evil one uses people for specific reasons and that is what he is doing with obama, for the antichrist to come 99% of the population will accept him as a great leader. Besides elections being fixed Obama won by the youth vote 18-25 yrs old selfish I want it now generation. Because more than have the majority did not vote for obama. Remeber it is not what we put into our mouths that defile us but that which comes out. God bless and Peace always. Matthew
 
Matthew Joseph   11/9/2008 7:05 PM
152 .  Obama
I think there is good reason to suspect that Obama is the Anti-Christ. He fits the description in the Bible. And he has done nothing but deceive the American people about who he is and what he stands for. He is eloquent and the whole world is in love with him, for no apparent reason. Think about it, America is the new Roman empire and Washinton would then be considered Rome. I don''t think there is any description that does not fit him.
Look up because because Jesus is coming again soon.
 
Nancy   11/9/2008 6:52 PM
153 .  Absolutely true, Semm

 
BKN   11/9/2008 6:17 PM
154 .  To Nancy in NYC
Nancy, I don''t mind you asking my personal opinion at all. I''m a believer in pre-trib rapture or I think a better term....pre Daniel''s 70th week

Be blessed
 
C Gill   11/9/2008 5:13 PM
155 .  Obama is going to lead the
hey franky, for once I agree with you. Like it or not, the Godless liberal left is the jews! Most of the jews in the house and senate are liberals. Mind altering hollywood is jews. The Christ haters are jews. Maybe you have seen the light.
 
Ari   11/9/2008 5:11 PM
156 .  Amen C Gill!
I agree with your comment on the danger of a softer approach being seen as weakness on the part of the West. May I ask you of your personal opinion concerning the tribulation and the revealing of the AC? Do you believe the saints will be raptured prior to this, in the middle, or the end prior to the unleashing of God''s wrath? Hope you don''t mind answering this question. Thanks and may God American, Israel, and all His people, Jews and Christians.
 
Nancy in NYC   11/9/2008 5:00 PM
157 .  Fear not . . .
ruhamah,
The Hope of Israel came already, and they still did not believe. The prophecies came true exactly as Jesus and the apostles said they would. The Lord did save them from their enemies. Their enemy was sin. Not Rome. Not Iran.
 
Steve   11/9/2008 4:52 PM
158 .  Iran
I don''t think anyone will stop Iran on it''s quest to become nuclear, certainly not by talking. The softer the approach by Obama the weaker the Arabs will see the West. I''m in agreement with Livni on this, though her Kadima party has given the same message by their land for peace deals. As we know the Jewish people, as a whole, have been temporarily blinded to the truth of the Messiah. God has His time for lifting that blindness, and He WILL. In the meantime I believe He will prevent the wiping out of Israel. They may be jealous of what they see as a charismatic leader in America, unfortunately they will accept one for themselves in the AC. Every piece is moving into place in readiness for Daniel''s 70th weak. Whichever way the kings on the earth jump, God''s WILL, will be done.
Brothers and sisters in Christ, rest in His peace.
 
C Gill   11/9/2008 4:38 PM
159 .  Fear not,again I say fear not!
To strengthen our faith,look toward the Temple.While Israel has been struggling with America and her enemies she has been silently and slowly fullfilling the sacred obligation to restore the core of Israel''s relation to God.The Shikinah will come and the rest is "history",liturally.Shalom
 
ruhamah   11/9/2008 4:26 PM
160 .  Fear not,again I say fear not!
To strengthen our faith,look toward the Temple.While Israel has been struggling with America and her enemies she has been silently and slowly fullfilling the sacred obligation to restore the core of Israel''s relation to God.The Shikinah will come and the rest is "history",liturally.Shalom
 
ruhamah   11/9/2008 4:26 PM
161 .  Fear not,again I say fear not!
To strengthen our faith,look toward the Temple.While Israel has been struggling with America and her enemies she has been silently and slowly fullfilling the sacred obligation to restore the core of Israel''s relation to God.The Shikinah will come and the rest is "history",liturally.Shalom
 
ruhamah   11/9/2008 4:22 PM
162 .  to Yossi Cohen
Yossi my grandmother of blessed memory used to say "Show me your company and I''ll tell you who you are." Not everybody in the US is for Obama and the quote about about galvanizing a nation is not exactly true. Many of those who didn''t vote for him will pray for him because they are Christians or Jews who take G-d''s Word seriously to pray for the leaders of one''s country. But they have no confidence in any human being to solve the world''s problems.
 
Semm   11/9/2008 4:18 PM
163 .  Obama is going to lead the
ONCE most powerful nation in the world. Because of the godless liberal left and ther policies America is on a slippery slope. Obama has said, and it is on record that if push comes to shove he will back the muslims!
God have mercy on us all.
God bless Israel
 
FRANK   11/9/2008 3:43 PM
164 .  "Do not put your faith in mortal men...
..who cannot save.
Blessed is he whose help is the God of Jacob,
Whose hope is in the Lord his God..." Psm 145v3-5

 
Bill   11/9/2008 3:40 PM
165 .  Rubbish
We are are safer with Obama at the helm than we would have been with McCain and we ever were with Bush.

Obama is no fool and will not be intimidated by Iran at all. Wait and see - and have a little faith in the man.
 
Yossi Cohen   11/9/2008 3:18 PM
166 .  Rubbish
We are are safer with Obama at the helm than we would have been with McCain and we ever were with Bush.

Obama is no fool and will not be intimidated by Iran at all. Wait and see - and have a little faith in the man.
 
Yossi Cohen   11/9/2008 3:17 PM


  
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