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Peres gushes, Livni guarded at UN interfaith summit

Israeli President Shimon Peres used his turn at the podium at the UN interfaith summit in New York on Wednesday to heap unrestricted praise on the gathering's organizer, Saudi Arabia's King Abdullah.

Peres broke with precedent to address Abdullah directly from the podium, and later insisted that the fact the Saudi king had even remained in the room to listen to an Israeli speak meant peace must be just around the corner.

However, those would be the only words Peres got to share with Abdullah, as the Saudi king and most other Arab leaders very conspicuously avoided contact with the Israeli delegation.

Israeli Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni, meanwhile, was far more guarded in her assessment of the proceedings, telling reporters that if the Arab and Muslims leaders were serious about peace with Israel they would have to go beyond flowery rhetoric in the halls of the UN.

Livni also took the opportunity to note that peace negotiations between herself and the Palestinians were progressing rapidly, primarily due to the fact that she is not allowing average Israelis access to the details of the talks.

Ahead of Israel's February general election, Livni is attempting to portray herself as the leader who can finally conclude a final status peace agreement with the Palestinians, while painting her opponent, Likud Party leader Benjamin Netanyahu, as someone who would rather stubbornly hold on to Israel's biblical heartland than live at peace with his neighbors.

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[58] COMMENTS:
1 .  SOME COWARDLY ANONYMOUS POSTER...
Has accused me of not answering a question? How can I answer an impertinant question when I was away from my computer and probably at CHURCH? Yes, in answer to the question, IF JEWS burned a Baptist Chuch it would be a HATE CRIME under our laws. The article zalman brought up did not SAY any Jews burned the churches! THIS was a FALSE ACCUSATION. Why do you haters remain with us? You have nothing useful to write, and are here only to peddle your OWN HATRED, which is unwanted!
 
Jim Borge   11/17/2008 9:56 AM
2 .  CY AND DAVID K LOL:
8:26 was to TOM
10:19 pm was to David K
i get this right yet....now that got everybody else confused
 
Dom   11/17/2008 7:44 AM
3 .  Hows Ben?
still fighten the ghost I see>>LOL
 
Dom   11/17/2008 7:09 AM
4 .  my post 8:26pm was to David K. sorry CY

 
Dom   11/17/2008 7:07 AM
5 .  Yes I have Rebekah
and all all HIS glory....you have too
 
Dom   11/17/2008 7:03 AM
6 .  no name, no brain, insane, use any name, you should
read Matt. 5:22, you probaby wouldn''t understand it but, you might try it?
 
BENFOX   11/17/2008 5:48 AM
7 .  zalman, easy Baptist don''t burn Jewish houses
of worship, the skin heads and nazi''s do that along with a lot of hatefill arabs and yes that is a hate crime. Just like Jews don''t wear bomb belts and enter gaza to kill innocent arabs, to bad it''s not the other way around? God Bless Israel, Her friends the fundemental Baptist and others who love Israel and her people.
 
BENFOX   11/17/2008 4:32 AM
8 .  GOD the Almighty, alone will stand with Israel
Reference: Joel 3: 1-3.

Israel has begun to re-assemble the Jewish people in the land GOD promised to give Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. But since May 1948, Israel has been a "tail" nation, dominated and "wagged" by the Gentile nations, like a dog wags its tail. Before that, during the "weary centuries" of Israel''s worldwide exile, she had been a scattered and "homeless" people, mercilessly "wronged and persecuted" by the Gentile nations.

The Biblical text states that before Israel can be established in "headship and national blessing in Messiah''s kingdom", individual Gentiles, like individual Jews, must be judged by God. That will occur, declared the LORD GOD, "when I bring again the captivity" {[i.e., reverse it, "restore the fortunes of]} "of Judah and Jerusalem".

That great reversal will take place at the end of the great tribulation, through Yeshua the Messiah''s return!
 
Edward   11/17/2008 1:15 AM
9 .  CY i wasnt agreeing with him
or were you talking about me?
 
Dom   11/16/2008 10:19 PM
10 .  Cy..it isn''t recent, nor without agreement..
Consider this, that the Church at Rome was the "mother", and then through the real faith of Martin Luther, many "daughters'' were born.

Protesting, but a "family" resemblance. That apostate church is far larger than any have expected it to be. All connected at the "apron strings" of the mother by self righteousness.

Mixed, wheat and tares.
 
BKN   11/16/2008 9:49 PM
11 .  Cy
Be careful of people who can not distinguish between the Church and Israel. They twist Scripture to no end to try to fit their theories.

Look up for your Redemption draweth nigh.


 
David E. Kaus   11/16/2008 8:58 PM
12 .  Tom Jesus said
it would bring division
your right
 
Dom   11/16/2008 8:26 PM
13 .  Cy...4:29PM
Rev. 18:4 "come out of her my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues. KJV
 
Gloria   11/16/2008 8:23 PM
14 .  Your right Jim B,Jews never burned those Baptist churches,
Like you said its the nazis and neo-nazis that not only deface Jewish Synagues, but desecrate Jewish Cemetery''s,they are wrong and God will judge them for these horrible acts!..We had recently had some young punks that got drunk at my local cemetery, they knocked down a fence,tomb stones and their front licence plate got pulled off and hung on the fence! Our local Sheriff hunted them down!and now they will soon pay for their crime!God bless Jim Borge
 
Ben from Texas   11/16/2008 5:50 PM
15 .  Zalman has been ushered from the building.

 
  11/16/2008 4:47 PM
16 .  David Kaus is right
I could not possibly agree with you more. That Great Whore, the Catholic church, has sucked apostate protestants into it with the intended goal of creating the One World Religion that the Antichrist will eventually attempt to force everyone to bow to, with himself as the little "god" at the helm. Unity at the expense of Truth will cost them all their souls.
 
Cy   11/16/2008 4:29 PM
17 .  His name is Ben from Texas...
And Jews have never been in the habit of burning Baptist churches. Nazis and neo-nazis, however have had a history of burning and defacing Jewish SYNAGOGUES! Get your facts straight, zalman, and peddle your hatred elsewhere. It just will not sell here.
 
Jim Borge   11/16/2008 9:22 AM
18 .  World Government (cont)
Those who have rejected Jesus Christ will not escape, but those who have put their faith in His Blood Atonement for their sins, will escape and be Translated to Glory.

Praise the wonderful Name of Jesus Christ forever, Hallelujah !!! Amen.
 
David E. Kaus   11/16/2008 5:47 AM
19 .  World Government (cont)
...or a Constitutional crisis (totally manipulated) will have to be resolved.

Oh don''t worry, the people are already in place and ready to meet to solve the Constitutional problem. Just think Hillary types, who reject anything godly.

Black racist have been fully conditioned to respond to any emotional let down with the only thing they know how to do, riot.

White racist have already responded to some degree, over Hussein Obama''s possible election as president, by the electoral college in Dec. Their conditioning has been along the same lines of black racist, hate being the major motivating force.

Things are moving very fast now, and will continue to do so right up to the Great Tribulation, and the wrath of God on a world that has rejected Jesus Christ, and they shall not escape.

Those who have rejected Jesus Christ will not escape, but those who have put their faith in His Blood atonement for their sins, and are looking for that Blessed Hope, will escape, and be Transl
 
David E. Kaus   11/16/2008 5:42 AM
20 .  World Government
It is simply amazing how many things are going on now to finalize World Government.

The above interfaith U.N. conference gives an international image to the Whore Church that it did not have before.

Bush is now convening a world economic meeting of nations to resolve the manipulated recession.

Sharia Financing has suddenly been seen as the solution to the world''s economic woes. Of course this will be followed up with Sharia Law.

An immoral ungodly deceiver and flatterer, Hussein Obama, has put himself in position to be nominated as president of the U.S. by the electoral college in December. He is a muslim in disguise as a Christian, who lied about his citizenship to run for president. This is leading to a Constitutional crisis to " change" things in America.

The Supreme Court has ordered him to produce his birth certificate by December 1st. to prove his eligibility. The electoral college will vote no doubt according to the ruling of the Supreme Court, or a Constitu
 
David E. Kaus   11/16/2008 5:25 AM
21 .  Amen Charles

 
Ben from Texas   11/16/2008 2:31 AM
22 .  What you don''t know about Barack Obama,
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.printable&pageID=80008
 
Ben from Texas   11/15/2008 11:01 PM
23 .  Soon it will all be over
There will be no other religion but the worship of God the Father , God the Son , God the Holy Spirit and all of the disruptor''s will be silenced .Those workers of Iniquity and you know who you are and so does the Lord . Leave us Satan !
 
Charles   11/15/2008 10:41 PM
24 .  Agree Jim Borge

 
C Gill   11/15/2008 6:22 PM
25 .  How very true, Jim Borge.
Hatred is like smoke, don''t get too close...one could get burned.

I expect that those "fires" are burning in people worse than in Los Angeles at the moment. Horrendous, and hazardous, and potentially deadly.

Stand away from them.
 
BKN   11/15/2008 5:31 PM
26 .  I agree,boycott,don''t give them a platform

 
Ben from Texas   11/15/2008 4:18 PM
27 .  AMEN Jim Borge
Its even better to not even open their posts and let their poison enter your mind. We know in advance what is going to proceed from their evil minds. One day they will stand before the one who knows our thoughts even before we think them and they will give an account. Would not like to be in their shoes on that day.
God bless brother and God bless Israel
 
FRANK   11/15/2008 1:34 PM
28 .  BEN FROM TEXAS
I went to the link you posted below and read the article. You are right. No mention of Jews. The article even states that the crime did not even appear to be racially motivated. People like zalman, ari, watts, et. al. want to blame the Jews for every crime commited. Sometimes the BEST response to these people is NO RESPONSE at all.
 
Jim Borge   11/15/2008 11:14 AM
29 .  Now zalman,ari,wondering,you don t fool anybody we know your
the same person,you don''t fool anybody,you cowardly hide behind several names to make people think that there are several that think the way you do ,all the jew bashing is what you live for and lately bashing christians,,oh and by the way you have not shown anybody any proof these young men were jews,,if your dog had flees you''d blame the jews,ha ha, show me your proof man instead of lies!!
 
Ben from Texas   11/15/2008 6:51 AM
30 .  no need to wonder,3 arrested in alabama church bombings,
Nathan Mosely,19 LEE Debusk,19,Lee Cody 20,arrested for church,says NOTHING about this being a jewish religious hate crime,your not credable,just wondering your just another jew hater,read this at,hhtp://www.religionnewsblog.com/13880/3-arrested-in-alabama-church-burnings
 
Ben from Texas   11/15/2008 2:49 AM
31 .  Livni not allowing Israelis access to details to the talks ,
because she knows they would not aprove of her giving away parts of Israel for peace, which any idiot knows this does not work.Did they get peace when they gave back Gaza,no only rockets,,the only thing people learn about history is that they forget it!And people that forget history are doomed to repeat the same mistakes,God bless israel,,Do not give up another inch of Israel LIVNI!!
 
Ben from Texas   11/15/2008 12:12 AM
32 .  Peres gushes...
it''s a wonder he didn''t bend the knee, and WOW!, Abdullah actually stayed in the room to listen...hope everyone is suitably impressed by this.

How very interesting that Livni isn''t allowing average Israeli''s access to her talks with the ''palestinians''. All the better to make deals behind their backs.

Keep stubbornly holding onto Israel''s Biblical heartland Netanyahu. God gave it to you.
 
C Gill   11/14/2008 8:00 PM
33 .  Well spoken David
I absolutely agree with you


 
C Gill   11/14/2008 7:50 PM
34 .  If "WATTs" is a euphemism for Intelligence Quotient!!!
Then you "Watts" are very DIM!!!
 
magend   11/14/2008 7:42 PM
35 .  How very common and childish you choose to be, Watts.
Does it really make you happy? I doubt it.
 
BKN   11/14/2008 6:49 PM
36 .  more at http://www.prophecynewswatch.com

 
Ben from Texas   11/14/2008 6:32 PM
37 .  Muslims continue to drive Christians from Islamic countries,
Possible death sentence for two men convicted of converting to Christianity,in an Islamic court in Shiraz,Iran....In Saudi Arabia an outraged father hacked his daughter to death for converting to Christianity..Catholic bishop is murdered in Iraq..Christian Churches torched in Hamas-controlled Gaza..more at,
 
Ben from Texas   11/14/2008 6:28 PM
38 .  I too agree, David
We are seeing fulfillment come before our eyes every day. The whole eccuminical interfaith movement is a part of the whore church of Babylon.
 
Carol P   11/14/2008 6:07 AM
39 .  Preach it Brother Edward...Praise The LORD!

 
Gloria   11/14/2008 5:13 AM
40 .  Absolutly Correct David E Kaus!

 
Gloria   11/14/2008 5:11 AM
41 .  TOM, Why did Jesus come to earth, the first time?
Back before time, before there was an earth where the waters of the seas wrestled to exceed their heavenly-ordained perimeters, before there existed blades of green-grass to cover the hillsides, and valleys Before there was a sun, and moon, and stars, GOD took counsel among the members of the Godhead, Father, Son, and Holy Ghost concerning the "redemption of man" in creation.

The decision of almighty GOD was that the second Person of the Trinity would be the creator of the universe, and would also be the Redeemer of man and creation, after creation in Genesis 1: 1. GOD demanded a "100%" on the Holiness test for the one who would redeem man, but ALL [MEN] have sinned and come short of the glory of God".

From Creation to Bethlehem, Jesus spanned the frame of time and "In the fullness of time, God sent forth His Son" [Galatians 4: 4], to redeem fallen man. "God hath made Him to be sin for us, Who knew no-sin, that we might become the righteousness of GOD in Him [Jesus]".

Tom, Is He your re
 
Edward   11/14/2008 4:43 AM
42 .  The Whore Church
Please realize that this is an interfaith world meeting at the U.N.

What we are seeing here are the immediate preliminary steps in the final organization of the Whore Church.

Apostate Christian Protestant Churches, that have united with Roman Catholicism, have prepared the Whore Church to make this final step, for many years now.

This preparation has consisted mainly of a rejection of sound doctrine for a unity in "love," with a blend of truth and error.

Other vehicles that have led to the formation of the Whore Church are : Revised Bibles, ecstatic tongues, mysticism, "christian" rock music, visualization, a prosperity Gospel, yoga, self fulling prophecies, kingdom now theology, spirit slaying, and demonic false revivals, like the bizarre one that just took place in Lakeland, Florida, with Todd Bentley.

Beware of any person, or organization that promotes any of the above.
 
David E. Kaus   11/14/2008 4:41 AM
43 .  Amen Edward!

 
Gloria   11/14/2008 4:32 AM
44 .  All nations on earth..against Israel, in the tribulation
According to human judgment, Israel''s survival during the seven years of "tribulation" is absolutely IMPOSSIBLE! They should be annihilated by all of the awesome attacks from the army''s that penetrate her country.

Israel''s GOD, the almighty One, want "the odds" to exist this way. Israel will be surrounded by awesome armies from the north, including Russia. Ethiopia, Libya, and the PLO, from the south. And from the east, a 200,000,000 man army from China and other nations approaching the Holy Land. Israel has "no-place" to look for help, but "upwards"!

Then Revelation 19: 11 enters this hopeless scene. "Henceforth ye shall not see Me until that day when ye shall say, "blessed is He that cometh in the Name of the Lord" becomes a reality for Israel. Yeshua "speaks"...and the nations "instantly evaporate"!

The nations are "no-match" for the GOD-MAN, King David''s wonderful Son Yeshua!
 
Edward   11/14/2008 4:14 AM
45 .  watts? You should know, it takes one to call one
and your such a Jew hater to begin with that we know where your coming from. You can''t make a comment without going to gutter lanugage, speaks for your brain power and knowledge. I can see your reply now, you always give yourseld away. I hope someday you can stop being a self proclaimed hater of Jews and Christians and come to the saving grace and knowledge of the Lord Jesus Christ, not a religion but, a relationship with your crea8tor. The Bible has got the instructions and you don''t have to take off your shoe to read them. Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved.
 
BENFOX   11/14/2008 3:04 AM
46 .  LIVNI
WHAT IN THIS WORLD ARE THESE LEADERS DOING ? AND WHY ARE YOU THE PEOPLE OF ELIOHIM DOING TO STOP THIS MADNEST? GET OFF YOUR BEHINDS AND RISE UP AND TROWN IS PEOPLE OUT THE COUNTY
 
JERI   11/14/2008 1:10 AM
47 .  Tom & the headlines
Tom, you should stick to commenting on the headlines as you will never be able to understand the bible until you are BORN AGAIN by the Spirit of God who will then open your eyes to the Truth of the Word of God and this is how it can happen:
Romans 10:v.8 ....that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved (born again). For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. For the Scripture says, "WHOEVER believes on Him will not be put to shame.".... For "whoever calls upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. And again "if we confess our sins he is faithful and true to forgive us."
1 Corinthians 2.V.14 But the natural man does not receive the things of God, for they are foolishness to him, nor can he know them for they are spiritually discerned.
Hope that helps.
 
Margaret London   11/14/2008 12:01 AM
48 .  Tom????
And your brain is so much bigger than anyone else...hummmm..........
lets see what you said......

''This is the real purpose of the bible, to divide and conquer people of limited knowledge, and give them false hope in their fight against their brothers of different denominations and religions''

This is pure horse manure!!! Hope you got a really big shovel.

 
Inspector Gadget   11/13/2008 11:44 PM
49 .  tongue, too, just words to increase your knowledge...

 
to tom   11/13/2008 10:25 PM
50 .  Tom scripture
Where is that found in the Bible?
 
AQ   11/13/2008 9:59 PM
51 .  You people are brainwashed by reading biblical scripture.
2 . You people are brainwashed by reading biblical scripture.
You people are brainwashed by reading biblical scripture. This book is to complex for your small minds to understand. You have every conceivable theory of what the scriptures mean, but you still do not see the real meaning of the bible. Jesus said: I did not come to bring peace to the world, I come with a sword to put brother against brother, father against son. From the mouth of Jesus came a double edged sword? Does not your tung look like a double-edged sword when sticking from your mouth? Does your tung say one thing but mean the other? Without your tung can you speak words? Jesus came to divide people by his “words in scripture” and it seems to be happening. Look at all the different religions and denominations in the world today, look at all the fighting among people in Jesus name. If you people knew what the bible is really meant for, you would be very cautious when quoting scripture and arguing the meaning of words meant to divide. This
 
Tom   11/13/2008 9:38 PM
52 .  You people are brainwashed by reading biblical scripture.

This is the real purpose of the bible, to divide and conquer people of limited knowledge, and give them false hope in their fight against their brothers of different denominations and religions. The beginning of the end will have only “THE ONE” “GOD” to be worshiped for ever and ever.
 
Tom   11/13/2008 9:37 PM
53 .  You people are brainwashed by reading biblical scripture.
You people are brainwashed by reading biblical scripture. This book is to complex for your small minds to understand. You have every conceivable theory of what the scriptures mean, but you still do not see the real meaning of the bible. Jesus said: I did not come to bring peace to the world, I come with a sword to put brother against brother, father against son. From the mouth of Jesus came a double edged sword? Does not your tung look like a double-edged sword when sticking from your mouth? Does your tung say one thing but mean the other? Without your tung can you speak words? Jesus came to divide people by his “words in scripture” and it seems to be happening. Look at all the different religions and denominations in the world today, look at all the fighting among people in Jesus name. If you people knew what the bible is really meant for, you would be very cautious when quoting scripture and arguing the meaning of words meant to divide. This is the real purpose of the bible, to divide and conque
 
Tom   11/13/2008 9:32 PM
54 .  Peace with Palestinians
Israel should stay firmiand not give a way land for....what? As long as the Palestinians want all of Israel and Israel to wiped off the map (read Hamas Charter) there cannot be real peacetalks. Also silly Arabs not willing meeting Israelis. Livni is right on that but I am not confident on her talks with them. We hope and pray a honest and strong leader stands up in a new government knowing to whom God promised the land He promised her ancessors..
Shalom from Holland
 
Dik - Holland   11/13/2008 7:53 PM
55 .  She has to get elected first.

 
Ellie   11/13/2008 7:42 PM
56 .  If Livni thinks giving up Israels heart land,
THE MOUNTAINS OF ISRAEL, will lead to peace she is having pipe dreams and should quit smoking that outlawed substance.
She was the one who was not embarrassed to enter the conference hall at Annapolis by a servants entrance to not offend the Saudies. Get rid of these bleeding heart liberals that want to feed Israel to the wolves by any legal means!
God bless Israel
 
FRANK   11/13/2008 7:25 PM
57 .  All this
would be so depressing if I did not know the final outcome. Meanwhile, all we can do is pray for the peace of Jerusalem. God bless Israel and all my brothers and sisters around the world.
 
Nancy in NYC   11/13/2008 7:03 PM
58 .  "Final status peace agreement"
What does this mean? As far as I can tell, this means the final surrender of Israel and it''s imminent destruction, IF this type of delusional nonsense is ever allowed to take place.

Livni is clearly delusiional, the so called palestinians do NOT want peace.

Apparently she drinks from the same fountain as Olmert.
 
Phil   11/13/2008 6:41 PM


  
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