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Thursday, January 22, 2009 Israel Today Staff

Palestinians confirm Hamas war crimes, refute Gaza death toll

An Italian reporter who entered the Gaza Strip following the recent Israeli assault on Hamas there wrote in his newspaper on Thursday that the casualty figures announced by Hamas and so eagerly passed on by the UN, Red Cross and foreign media were grossly exaggerated.

At most, five or six hundred Palestinians died in Gaza over the past month, according to Lorenzo Cremonesi, a correspondent for Italy's Corriere della Sera. The foreign media has carried numerous sources citing Hamas and UN officials claiming in excess of 1,300 killed.

But Cremonesi explained, "It is sufficient to visit several hospitals [in the Gaza Strip] to understand that the numbers don't add up." He noted that in nearly all of Gaza's major hospitals, and especially those in major conflict zones, he found most beds empty.

On top of that, Cremonesi reported that a doctor at Gaza City's Shifa Hospital who asked to remain anonymous for fear of Hamas acknowledged that the death toll had been inflated. He also told the reporter that many of the dead were "youths between the ages of 17 to 23 who were recruited to the ranks of Hamas and then sent them to the slaughter."

Cremonesi also wrote that Gazans he interviewed confirmed Israeli accusations of Hamas war crimes, especially the deliberate use of the civilian population as human shields.

When local Gazans demanded that Hamas and its allies not take up positions near them, one interviewee said the terrorists responded:

"Traitors, collaborators with Israel, spies of Fatah, cowards! The soldiers of the holy war will punish you. And in any case you will all die, like us. Fighting the Zionist Jews we are all destined for paradise. Do you not wish to die with us?"

Others recounted how Hamas gunmen had disguised themselves as paramedics and commandeered ambulances to avoid being targeted by the Israelis, and how UN facilities were in fact used as launch pads for rockets and mortar shells.

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[264] COMMENTS:
1 .  Blood Libel 2009
There is nothing new under the sun. In the dark ages, Jews have been accused of witchcraft, then poisoning the wells causing the Black Plague, then kidnapping Christian children to use there blood for matza. Now it''s a new era, in which people are sophisticated... sort of. The new more sophisticated libels are fabricating the holocaust, controlling the banks and the media, masterminding 9/11, and now the Operation Cast Lead lies. Here''s a new one you can look forward to, Global Warming: Zionist plot to enslave humanity through eco-domination. If Jews did controll the media, why does Israel have such rep?
 
Mike   2/2/2009 8:52 PM
2 .  To Jim Borge, I agree with Christine & Ellie, God Bless You!

 
Brenda Joyce   1/28/2009 5:17 AM
3 .  Copy That Jim, refer: Christine''s Post!

 
Ellie   1/28/2009 1:30 AM
4 .  Jim Borge 9:48am
God bless you Jim for your efforts for peace and unity among the children of God. It is appreciated.
Love C
 
Christine G   1/28/2009 12:16 AM
5 .  Sad truth
ZenZen,
I agree with you fully. Sadly all this information is only published by Israel-supporting sites and no one outside of that believes it. People trust the UN and the Red Cross, and what they have done can only be undone by them if at all. One Italian article doesn''t have weight. And as far as Jenin, nobody digs that far.
 
Julia   1/27/2009 9:15 PM
6 .  make that "concern"

 
Ellie   1/27/2009 4:14 PM
7 .  All who love Israel Pray for Rain It is
becoming a grave consern.
 
Ellie   1/27/2009 4:13 PM
8 .  Amen Ben from Texas & God Bless You!

 
Brenda Joyce   1/27/2009 3:03 PM
9 .  Bless you Ellie...
on your efforts to locate PH and get him some needed help (Thanks to you, Charles, as well)!! This character Terry was becoming an annoyance. His self-righteous words against Ellie was uncalled for.
 
Jim Borge   1/27/2009 9:53 AM
10 .  BENFOX
It is nice that you and David Kaus are enjoying friendly chatter with captaindawg, and I do not want to discourage this at all. But can you two extend the same courtesy to Bert, who does not blaspheme our Lord Jesus Christ?? Bert is very pro Israel and the ladies (Barbara Kay, Christine G, Ellie, Brenda Joyce) are very fond of him and love his posts and fellowship. Can your "charity" extend that far?? Just a thought...
 
Jim Borge   1/27/2009 9:48 AM
11 .  Amen Ellie
I think that your comment, to the one "carrying a load," is a very precise one. And I also hope someday, that he, or she, will experience God''s mercy. God bless, & love to you my sister in Christ, Brenda.
 
Brenda Joyce   1/27/2009 7:44 AM
12 .  To Barbara Kay
That is wonderful, thank goodness you listened to the Lord''s Spirit, and didn''t lash out at her, but instead, you turned it over to the Lord to reveal to your friend, her need for Him. You''re a good friend and sister in Christ. God bless you, with much love Brenda.
 
Brenda Joyce   1/27/2009 7:18 AM
13 .  Ellie
Hi Ellie, thank you for the information. We appreciate you keeping us informed about what''s going on. And you take care also!
 
Charles & Brenda   1/27/2009 6:31 AM
14 .  To the one carrying a load.
You are like the child who throws a rock then runs and hides?
What nerve in you was touched?
The same God that loves is also a God of mercy.
I hope someday you experience that.
 
Ellie   1/27/2009 5:08 AM
15 .  That is a loving account Barbara Kay
and had you not listened to the Lord''s Spirit, your friend may never have found salvation and peace in the Lord.
I hope you keep writing , for your words point us to the Lord. That''s a gift, and you are to use it.
I pray this situation will not come up anymore. Christians are to be joyful people and uplift each other.
 
Ellie   1/27/2009 4:37 AM
16 .  barbara wonderfull testimony!!! God is good!

 
Bert   1/26/2009 11:29 PM
17 .  Ellie 2...I felt anger building quickly in me..
...but I sensed the Lord''s Spirit, stopping me. I wanted to really lash out on her, but didn''t.

I left, and prayed all the way home. She had told me she "felt no need for God''s love", so I asked Him to reveal her need for Him.

About four days later, she was at my home for lunch. She told me she had to tell me something that would make me happy.

Short story, He did just that, let her feel her need for Him, and she prayed and asked Him into her life.

Had I lost my temper, I would not have been a part of such a wonderful thing. And He build me stronger, to the place where lots of people don''t love me, but I walk in His Love for me. And those hot arrows...glance off.........Him!! Because it is HE that is the target.
 
Barbara Kay   1/26/2009 9:46 PM
18 .  Hang on to your Life, Dear Ellie
And see how wonderful His love is during times like those. I know you know Him, and love Him...and it is HIS LOVE that is more powerful than the anger.

When we look at 1 Cor.13, most of the negatives are REACTIONS, not actions.

This would be a good time to tell you about one of the "elementary principles" I learned about love.

I was visiting a friend''s home, and I wast telling her about His love. She told me, matter of factly, that she felt she HAD enough love. Not a bad attitude, just her thought.
 
Barbara Kay   1/26/2009 9:42 PM
19 .  Me too Barbara Kaye.!
I iniatially went through the library, where the poster had mentioned what terminal he used, which led to the officer on site, and then to where it needed to be.
Glad to see you here, I prayed for you. I really did lose my temper, and momentarily forgot the command to Be angry and sin not.
I hated that you were being hurt, and quite frankly I wanted to box some ears!! I am more than a little like Peter I guess. You on the other hand are full of grace.
 
Ellie   1/26/2009 8:05 PM
20 .  Ellie...I am so glad you got through to them.
I wrote a few months ago, also, to the chief..and received nothing in response.

At the very least, this person needs professional help.
 
Barbara Kay   1/26/2009 5:26 PM
21 .  To Charles
Regarding the topic we spoke of yesterday, I spoke again to the source at the Unit covering my 1st report. ( in Jax). This case is still open, with the intelligence unit, and they will prosecute this individual if found. Will continue to relay info to the officer on this case. Without some pertinent ID source, it is difficult to find him. Its possible he was in jail the mos he was absent. Be cautious with personal idenity was the word I received from this unit. I will actively give them the info as available.
Take care!
 
Ellie   1/26/2009 4:29 PM
22 .  The Truth
GAZANS SAY HAMAS KEPT THEM IN HOMES USED BY TERRORISTS: Palestinian civilians have accused Hamas of forcing them to stay in homes from which gunmen shot at Israeli soldiers during the recent hostilities in Gaza, an Italian newspaper said Thursday. More than 1,250 Palestinians were reportedly killed during IDF operations against Hamas. Israel has been harshly criticized for the large number of civilians among the Palestinian dead, but the total number of fatalities has been highly disputed. A correspondent for Italy''s Corriere della Sera quoted a doctor at Gaza City''s Hospital as saying, "It''s possible the death toll in Gaza was 500 or 600 at the most, mainly youths aged 17 to 23 who were enlisted by Hamas - who sent them to their deaths." (Ha''aretz)
 
Moshe Daveed   1/26/2009 1:23 PM
23 .  Captaindawg,Carol P ,Brenda Joyce
Then that makes Five so far, our love for Israel is un shaken,I hold no ill feeling toward you either captaindawg and hope the best for you and your family and friends..Sometimes we all get Our feelings hurt when we have disagreements about Religion,My Pastor say''s we should just agree to disagree with no hard feelings when a discussion of difference arises..Our Father is the Father of Abraham,Isaac,Jacob..We all have this in common interest.I''m sure you all agree on this fact also.God Bless to all my Email friends.Ben from Texas
 
Ben from Texas   1/26/2009 10:27 AM
24 .  UN (Ban Ki Moon)
Anybody have moons email address. Forward this page to him and let him read the report..

....and how UN facilities were in fact used as launch pads for rockets and mortar shells
 
Kent   1/26/2009 10:12 AM
25 .  RAYMOND - Re: Virgin Men
Just to clarify the situation,
When a muslim woman dies in Jihad, because all the men will be busy with their virgins, she will only get ''Palestine Husband'' because allah will punish him for communicating with the infidels on this forum..and that means he wont be getting any virgins.
I hope this is clear.
:)

God Bless Israel
 
Kent   1/26/2009 10:10 AM
26 .  To captaindawg & BENFOX
I agree with Carol, it is a blessing and I''m so thankful, that you and BENFOX have put your religious differences aside, for the sake of supporting Israel. And I pray, we all will do the same. God bless you both.
 
Brenda Joyce   1/26/2009 7:32 AM
27 .  That is a blessing to hear, captaindwag!

 
Carol P   1/26/2009 5:29 AM
28 .  ben from texas
We have something in common: big love for Israel. I don''t care if he thinks frank sinatra is Gd, he is an unwavering vocal supporter of Israel. We have already put aside our religious differences here.
 
captaindawg   1/26/2009 3:35 AM
29 .  ought to be an interesting cup of coffee ha ha

 
Ben from Texas   1/26/2009 2:24 AM
30 .  Thanks dawg, that''s a date, I''ll be in touch,
visiting a pastor near there in the near future, God willing. God Bless You and Yours
 
BENFOX   1/26/2009 2:06 AM
31 .  Oren: How do you expect Israel to defend themselves?
If Israel defends by "proportiionate force", which means that for each Israeli killed by arabs, Israel retaliate bu killing one arab, then that will be end of Israel. There are a few hundred million hostile arabs vs a few milion Israelis, and the arabs would love to have a "proportionate force" war with Israel.In order to survive, Israel has to retaliate with great force in order to deter the arabs.
You are right that Israel failed to stop the Hamas rockets.That is because due to UN and US pressure, the Israelis had to end the war prematurely. If they had continued for another two weeks, Hamas would have been destroyed.
 
Yang Yang   1/26/2009 2:02 AM
32 .  benfox
You just let me know when you are coming. I live in the greenville, SC area and I''ll make time to take you out for coffee here. Thanks for writing back, and Gd bless you.
 
captaindawg   1/26/2009 12:49 AM
33 .  Thanks dawg, I might be in the Carolina''s
soon and your right, it is cold here, 17 degrees right now, I''m sitting here with the heat turned up and my coat on, I''m really a warm wheather person who got miss place in Denver for 66 years. Lets do coffee? I''ll let you know when I''m headed your way? Have a blessed resurrection day Friend and your Family also.
 
BENFOX   1/25/2009 11:25 PM
34 .  Charles, I forgot to thank you!
I don''t worry over whoever Terry is, all I know is that PH is capable of any trick to get his post read.
I just wish Israel today had some sort of spam tool to block him.
There may not be anything police can do unless he committs a crime. I wasn''t given much hope. Seems nowadays profane speech in itself is not against the law . The best deterent always has been for all on these sites to ignore him (or use spam blockers). God Bless you for caring.
 
Ellie   1/25/2009 9:55 PM
35 .  Charles,
I notified the Jax. Poliice Dept and forwarded the post about killng a Jew in a zipcode. I gave them addresses he hung out in, and I called the library he used.
They were givein Israel Today''s phone #. He is now using alias to get his posts read.
I talked with the Detective Unit and gave them all the info. I will follow up with the detective I spoke too, and see what the situarion is.
 
Ellie   1/25/2009 9:43 PM
36 .  benfox
great comments, we could definitely have a good conversation if I lived anywhere near you, but it''s too cold up there. If you ever get near the Carolinas, let me know. There is some great hiking in the good old Blue Ridge.

Keep up the good work.
 
captaindawg   1/25/2009 9:28 PM
37 .  May God Protect Israel from the evil muslims.

 
RAYMOND   1/25/2009 9:03 PM
38 .  Of course,the devil is a LIAR! The UN,as we all know,is #1
Against Israel! To be such a chicken,as to put your youth in front of you,as a shield,is the lowest of the lows! AND to teach them that BY MASS MURDERING of innocent people,(even their own!),they get 72 virgin women or girls,(since Mohammad marries a 6 yr old,but he didn''t "have sex with her" until she was 9! How sweet of you,Mo!) is the most sickening thing to even think of! They are the Party of Death! What a RUDE AWAKENING they each must have to instantly wake up in hell-fire & no virgins & no heaven only fires & torment continually eternally forever! It will be too late then! Go with what Walid Shoebat (the former Terroristic murderer from Pa. but was saved when he found out that the Koran was ALL LIES!) says to his former Palesitineans, "Get OFF that Islamic TRAIN,while you can! Its going to crash!"
 
J C   1/25/2009 7:11 PM
39 .  Oren: Hamas said they were VICTORIOUS
Hamas started the war by continually shooting rockets at Israel, and also unilaterally declaring an end to the truce. So if Hamas and Gazans are VICTORIOUS, why are they complaining? Ok .....maybe really Hamas and Gazans were NOT victorious, which means their press releases are NOT reliable! I don''t know why the journalists are so gullible to believe everything Hamas feeds to them. Just because they are losers does not mean they are right.
 
Yang Yang   1/25/2009 6:45 PM
40 .  Oren: Why does the press believe Hamas so readily?
Fact is the press could not get into Gaza. Which means everything the press got on Gaza was fed by Hamas and the other Gazans who are not quite friends of Israel, and thus cannot be neutral information. Just like you quite reasonably question Israel''s information, maybe you also need to question information fed by Hamas and Gazans. Both sides are bias, not just Israel. In a war nationalism is raised,and people will not be objective.
 
ZenZen   1/25/2009 6:24 PM
41 .  Hamas should have known ....
There is nothing pretty about any war. Besides the fighters, civilians also get killed and maimed, and properties destroyed. While the world press and governments focused on Isreal''s destruction of Gaza, very little is said about the role of Hamas in starting the war. Just because Hamas lost the war does not mean they are not responsible for the destruction. Where is the condemnation of Hamas firing rockets into Israel? Where is the condemnation of Hamas for ending the truce? Hamas INVITED Israel to a fight, and lost very badly. Just because Hamas decided to start a fight with somebody a 100 times more powerful does not absolve hamas of the accountability of Gaza''s destruction.
 
ZenZen   1/25/2009 6:15 PM
42 .  maby the above article article should ....
be used to counteract the various
allegations of war-crimes committed by
Israel, instead of any other means.
This sort of reporting from one of the
western own reporters might carry
more weight than any denials done
by Israel, which are not tended to be
believed anyhow.

 
Sigvard von Brevern   1/25/2009 4:39 PM
43 .  Ellie not Eiii
I guess it''s still early and I didn''t proof read my post .
 
Charles   1/25/2009 4:27 PM
44 .  Eiii
Terry, David or who ever it is that seems to have a problem with the ladies clubs should be ignored . This PH is a sick individual that could be hovering under the radar of the police . He is a sexual predator or will be . His remarks elude to an underlying desire to commit those acts that he described . As such he needs to be dealt with .We live close to Jacksonville and I intended to notify Police last Friday.
 
Charles   1/25/2009 4:21 PM
45 .  Israel cannot be defeated by Arabs
If the Arabs and Palestinians claim they are descendants of Abraham, then they should know that they cannot defeat Israel. God is on the side of Israel. Even Mohammad acknowledged that Jesus shall come again to judge everybody, including Mohammad. If Mohammad is to be judged by Jesus, then why do muslims stand for rejecting Jesus and God? So Arabs, give up your futile fight against Israel. God will never let your allah win.
 
Jose   1/25/2009 2:14 PM
46 .  Moose and Mango, good comments guys and
really worth thinking about, God Bless both of you and your families.
 
BENFOX   1/25/2009 9:41 AM
47 .  moshedaveed you are right my friend and Ben
from Texas, you hit a home run friend, keep on keeping on friend. God Bless both of you and your families.
 
BENFOX   1/25/2009 9:39 AM
48 .  How come the imams do not blow up themselves?
It is very strange that the imams who teach the young muslim men to blow up themselves in suicide missions never follow that practice themselves. I wonder why those young men bent on suicide never asked their imams that question.
 
Mango   1/25/2009 7:57 AM
49 .  Raymond: Muslims running out of virgins
At the rate the muslim men blow themselves up, there will be a shortage of virgin women! With the kind of philosophy they have, it is a reflection that Islam is enslaving their women. Will the women get virgin men? With a man/wife ratio of 1 to 4, there should be a lot of supply of virgin muslim men.
 
Moose   1/25/2009 7:52 AM
50 .  40 Al-Qaeda cell killed by black death''was developing weapon
weapons''[http://www.telegraph.co.uk/]
 
Ben from Texas   1/25/2009 6:53 AM
51 .  Obama officials confirm He will fund foreign abortions start
starting wednesday[http://www.lifenews.com/nat4757.html
 
Ben from Texas   1/25/2009 6:42 AM
52 .  BENFOX
thank you in the name of Adonai

I do know the answer. I pray that those christians that support the khamas will be shown the real truth and the lies be revealed to them.

 
moshedaveed   1/25/2009 4:57 AM
53 .  To Terry, "you and I both know"
that my comment was netiher calculated nor sly, for the poster did not sign a name.
What the poster did do was state to another poster "there was no need for these "hysterical" warnings" which was not the attitude of most who know the Palestinian Husband.
It was a rude comment.
Otherwise, I don''t know anything about you.
 
Ellie   1/25/2009 2:42 AM
54 .  terry c. I don''t dart but I do walk slow at times,
and the name calling, whats with that, I don''t remember calling you any names? Oh well, have a better day.
 
BENFOX   1/25/2009 2:05 AM
55 .  terry c. if what Ellie was talking about or the person
then why did you get so mad? One would assume she was talking about you the way you reacted, read your own comment and see if I''m right? I haven''t seen the comment in which you said you were sorry, so I assume you thought it was aimed at you even though there was no name mentioned? I''m on Jesus, He is the only experience I need, no drugs my friend but ff I had your paranoia, I might would get some legal ones for my nerves. Have a better day friend.
 
BENFOX   1/25/2009 1:54 AM
56 .  Christine C
"How on earth was she supposed to know..."
Your rhetorical question is so disingenuous, that you betray only your own integrity by it, by pretending that my posts could be in any way confused with those of the resident demoniac - name or no name
Shame on you - but then it is girls together night isn''t it, on this strangest of forums? (with the weirdo Benfox darting in and out of the peripheral shadows)
Now where''s that fresh air vent....
 
Terry C   1/25/2009 1:49 AM
57 .  Who is this creepy BENFOX?
"no name"? "ph"? what kind of gobblegook is this. Is he the local addict or something and whatever is he on!?
"Keep the rat in the trap"!! what kind of strange underworld does this man live in.
My goodness me, I came here to comment on the news from Israel and instead find myself in a catacomb inhabited by the strangest of creatures....now where''s that exit - I need some fresh air...
 
Terry C   1/25/2009 1:40 AM
58 .  Who is this creepy BENFOX?
"no name"? "ph"? what kind of gobblegook is this. Is he the local addict or something and whatever is he on!?
"Keep the rat in the trap"!! what kind of strange underworld does this man live in.
My goodness me, I came here to comment on the news from Israel and instead find myself in a catacomb inhabited by the strangest of creatures....now where''s that exit - I need some fresh air...
 
Terry C   1/25/2009 1:40 AM
59 .  Terry C
Ellie sure touched a nerve with you. How on earth was she supposed to know it wasn''t you with the foul mouth if you don''t sign your post? Back off her and give her the same consideration you give to PH
 
Christine G   1/25/2009 1:34 AM
60 .  Of Course Ellie isn''t evil...
an unreserved NO to that - obviously she is not evil (except of course in the sense that outside of Christ, there is no good thing in any one of us including myself).
Notwithstanding that it would be nice to hear her retract her rather spiteful implication as quoted in my last post...a remark made simply because I dared to question a post by her friend on this forum...


 
Terry C   1/25/2009 1:27 AM
61 .  Good question Raymond but I don''t think they
could find 72 virgin muslims, ask the Lebonanese women who were raped by them, all 4000 or more. And with 4 wives to each male, that doesn''t leave too many virgin muslim women either, what will they die for when the virgins run out? Maybe what they do now, seek other men? Good Question and God Bless You and Yours Raymond.
 
BENFOX   1/25/2009 1:25 AM
62 .  terry c, are you no name or ph? You sure got
upset at Ellie and if your neither of these, why you so mad at her, I didn''t see the name terry c. anywhere? Her comment was about a evil wicked person and she was correct in what she said about this person, are you that person? If not you should tell Ellie your sorry. I''ve never hugged her but I would as a sister in Christ. We may not always see eye to eye on all things but, I believe she has a kind heart and guts enough to tell the truth. God Bless Ellie and keep the rat in the trap.
 
BENFOX   1/25/2009 1:19 AM
63 .  To:All muslims
The koran teaches that if muslim men die while serving allah (who is
not a god at all) they will receive 72 virgins.

Question: If a muslim woman should die while serving allah, will she
receive 72 virgin men???
 
RAYMOND   1/25/2009 1:15 AM
64 .  Will you be as loving and gentle to Ellie as you are to PH?
I know that this woman is not the evil person you think, nor is she at all.

Nor are you demonstrating the love and caring for her, that you seemed to have for the poster who wants to foul our thinking.
 
Barbara Kay   1/25/2009 1:12 AM
65 .  Muslims are Murderous Cowards. God Bless the Jews.

 
RAYMOND   1/25/2009 1:09 AM
66 .  no name, no brain, use all kinds of stupid names,
I assure you, it won''t be from you and I don''t hide in fear of you or any of your allah-satan loving friends and you can take that to the bank, Still praying for you to awake out of your dream world, no virgins there for you my friend.
 
BENFOX   1/25/2009 1:09 AM
67 .  You and I both know....
....that your comment "I wonder if you might be this demented poster" was a calculatedly sly little dig by you against my character, (because you knew very well I was not that man) - using the mere absence of my name as a lame excuse for your spiteful implication. You know that and I know that, but you will of course never admit it let alone apologise, because you''re just too full of self righteousness to confess such human frailty!
So do me a favour lady - deliver your sanctimonious spiel to those who are more impressed by you than I am....
 
Terry C   1/25/2009 12:50 AM
68 .  To Terry C.
I stand by what I said. This person has stated things that should be taken seriously, including the threat to kill someone.
His proximity is a concern to me.
His words are malicious.
You are speaking as if prayer alone is all that is needed.
I have probalby prayed for him more than you, and have taken steps to help find him. I will continue to do more than just have an opinon,because when anyone makes the kinds of statements he has made, it is foolish not to think it could happen or already has.



 
Ellie   1/25/2009 12:04 AM
69 .  no name, no brain back again, what cult would
you be talking about? Not your satanic cult I''m sure? Sven Alder at least came out with a name and I respect him for that. Praying for you no name.
 
BENFOX   1/24/2009 11:09 PM
70 .  Sven Alder, AMEN to your 1/24/09 9:48 PM Post
You’ve got him pegged along with the cult he represents!!!!!!!
 
  1/24/2009 10:43 PM
71 .  Christine G. Great comment done with super
knowledge and insight, keep up the good comments. God Bless You and Yours.
 
BENFOX   1/24/2009 10:35 PM
72 .  moshedaveed, Glad you are a believer and
being such you should know the answer to your own question? I commmend Israel for doing what they should have done a long time ago and I''m sure they are on sound ground with Shaddai. May God Bless Israel, Gods Land and Chosen People and all Messianic Believers Everywhere.
 
BENFOX   1/24/2009 10:33 PM
73 .  "Her actions now are to prevent offence to others."
Really!!? Check out the opening remarks of her post at 9.25.
Seems like the sanctimonious ladies club is closing ranks on this forum, so I leave you to your self righteous hug-in )
 
Terry C   1/24/2009 10:29 PM
74 .  continued: needed some times. I hope you
vented well, I know it sure helps me at times and it''s good to get things out of your system at times. Can''t say I disagree with all you said, I can be pretty out front at times and I should watch what I say if it hurts others. I know a lot of no names that like to get under my skin and thats okay, I can dish it out as well as anyone and I don''t bruise easy, so the sticks and stones don''t hurt. I''m hoping you are feeling better, I know I am. If you know Him, I wish you well in Gods Love, if you don''t then send Him a email and I''m sure He will answer you. He answers all request, I know that for sure. Thanks for the email and thanks for the rebuke.
 
BENFOX   1/24/2009 10:29 PM
75 .  A Question
I am a Messianic Believer
 
moshedaveed   1/24/2009 10:23 PM
76 .  A qusestion to all Believers


Shalom - Christians that condemn Israel and back Khamas, where do they stand in the eyes of Shaddai.
 
moshedaveed   1/24/2009 10:22 PM
77 .  Sven Alder, thank you for the name and I assure
you that I''m not paranoid and I''m not a ex-army guy either. I''m a man and a man of God even though I''m not in your sight and thats okay and I can even take your rebuke and not get angry about it, since you come out, are you the no name that puts down Israel all the time? Just asking? Wouldn''t make a voodoo doll and stick pins in it and thinking it was you. You seem to have enough pain now, wouldn''t add to it and I don''t believe in voodoo to begin with. I am a former Marine and not a thug but, not a sissy either but, you have your opinion and thats fine also. Don''t drink Bud and I''m out of pins anyhow. I would save the can''s, can make a pretty penny selling them. I hope you haven''t wasted all your pins on my voodoo doll look alike? Now that we are on a first name basis, wouldn''t you want to be my friend? I''m willing if you are? I''m not sure what part of my diatribe you dislike but, let me know, you might just change me? Hope you have a good life friend and thanks for the rebuke, it''s
 
BENFOX   1/24/2009 10:20 PM
78 .  Terry C
Your words to Ellie are uncalled for and unfair. Ellie tried on numerous occasions to speak with this individual, all to no avail. Her actions now are to prevent offence to others.

 
Christine G   1/24/2009 10:12 PM
79 .  To Mango
You did a pretty good job yourself of bringing out the facts. I just pray Oren will listen.

God bless
 
Christine G   1/24/2009 10:07 PM
80 .  Ellie
perhaps if you had spent more time praying for this man''s soul then on your self-righteous, holier than thou judgementalist postings the wretched man might well have been healed and saved by now
But no, let''s just dump him in the prison mental hospital for being such a nasty sinner......
Excuse me while I throw up!
 
Terry C   1/24/2009 10:03 PM
81 .  Oren 3
My advice to you is to research Sharia Law. This should give you a grounding in the Muslim faith of Islam.
Iran now has Ahmadinijad, who most certainly is a true Islamic follower. He follows on from Khomeini and is the sponsor of Hezbollah and Hamas and the other terrorist groups, supplying arms and giving orders to facilitate the downfall of the Jews and Christians. He believes in the Mahadi, a false Islamic saviour, who is to come, and save the world. But first the Jews must be killed, Jerusalem retaken and chaos brought to the world.
You can research all of this, I recommend you do so and quickly, because as a Catholic, you will be classed as a Christian. When you have, you will see the truth. Until then, I don''t see there is anything left to say between us. Please take the advice.
May God open your eyes to see and your ears to hear.
 
Christine G   1/24/2009 9:59 PM
82 .  Oren 2
It isn''t a case of them being fanatical, it''s the way of Islam. EVERYONE of the muslim faith is expected even demanded to continue. The aim is to convert all infidels, any who don''t follow Islam, or kill by the sword. Another aim is to take Jerusalem, which they view as belonging to them. They must also kill ALL Jews, no matter where they live, man, woman, or child.
After that it''s the turn of the ''Sunday'' people. The west is seen as Christian, we are the Sunday people.
There aren''t a few extremists, this is pure Islam and ALL of them must follow it. That some don''t seem to at the moment in the west is because they are in the minority, but they are only in waiting, for the order to rise up. Of course there are probably those who don''t want to, but they won''t have a choice, it will be a case of kill or be killed.

 
Christine G   1/24/2009 9:48 PM
83 .  Add remark to post below
This person who calls himself Palestinian Husband is not new here, but has been back and forth for at least a year. He thrives on shocking people and getting responses.
He needs to be removed from this site.

 
Ellie   1/24/2009 9:35 PM
84 .  To Oren
Don''t twist my words please Oren, I said there''s still controversy, that''s not acknowledging anything.
Israel didn''t ''flatten'' Gaza, they could have, but didn''t.
As to the total number of deaths, both sides give a very different figure, wait and see.
I have to burst your balloon here about Muslims and extremists.
When there was a revolt in Iran, back in the seventies, it resulted in the Shah being deposed and the Ayotolla Khomeini becoming leader. Khomeini was the highest cleric and spiritual leader. Israel was involved in four wars with the surrounding Arab nations. Against all odds, they won every time.
Khomeini told his people that the reason was because they were backslidden in their Islamic faith. From this he formed Hezbollah (party of God) their God being Allah. Hence what you are calling the ''fanatical'' was born. Khomeini also took them back to the ideology with all it''s various punishments and ''way of faith'' it had from many centuries ago.
It isn''t a case of them b
 
Christine G   1/24/2009 9:34 PM
85 .  No Name Poster 8:43 am and other
These are not "hysterical warnings, and I wonder if you might be this demented poster since you don''t sign a name.
In the case you are not, this wretched soul needs more than our prayers at this point. He needs a long stay in a mental hospital. Maybe prison. He has made death threats in the past for specific areas.
This new boldness of singing "Israel today" is just a stupid attempt to deceive those who warn others, which we will continue to do! Hopefully, Israel Today will get a program to block this person and any foul profanity. That is what I will pray for.
 
Ellie   1/24/2009 9:25 PM
86 .  gaza res, I know I don''t scare you, so I''ll meet
you in June, will be near your hole in the ground in June of this year. I''m easy to spot, will be wearing a jacket with the flags of all the nations I''ve been too, also will be wearing a US Marine Corps hat, if you stop hiding behind women and children long enough would like to shake your hand and have a cup of tea or coffee, since that is all I drink. You can bring your bottle if you want, doesn''t bother me. Since you defeated my friends the Jews, I''m sure you can tell me some good war stories? Until June, stay safe and yes protect your family, God would expect you to do that but, please stop hiding behind them, flesh and blood isn''t very good protection, I know that you know that by now.
 
BENFOX   1/24/2009 9:03 PM
87 .  no name poster 5:05PM, BENFOX is not from
Texas but, my good friend Ben from Texas is and he is a better person then you, he uses his name, not ashamed and shouldn''t be. A true man of God doesn''t have to post with no name attached? God Bless my friend from Texas. BENFOX who uses his own name lives in Denver, Colorado. Leave my friend from Texas alone or he might bury you under his bus, just a suggestion no name. Have a good day and come out from hiding, we aren''t dangerious as you like to believe.
 
BENFOX   1/24/2009 8:55 PM
88 .  No one needs your hysterical ''warnings''
...just pray for the wretched man...
 
  1/24/2009 8:43 PM
89 .  No panic, just warning...no name.

 
Barbara Kay   1/24/2009 8:28 PM
90 .  cussing
My sister as a young girl once said "Intelligent people don''t have to cuss to get their point across". Think about it.
 
cherry   1/24/2009 6:18 PM
91 .  Profanity from camel fleas
It confirms what I said...that those camel fleas cannot have a reasoned conversation without turning obscene or violent.
 
Mango   1/24/2009 6:11 PM
92 .  For goodness sake people stop panicking..
The poor man is a sad little demoniac -desperate for attention, and desperately in need of the healing touch of our infinitely compassionate Lord.
Just pray quietly for him, and believe for God''s deliverance...
 
  1/24/2009 6:00 PM
93 .  Certain people curse and swear....
Certain people cannot debate or have a rational dialogue without resorting to cursing and swearing, and shouts of jihad. Strange they usually belong to a certain religion that like to tie bombs around their waists.
 
Mutu   1/24/2009 5:56 PM
94 .  The posts are a foul stench from the DEAD.

 
Barbara Kay   1/24/2009 5:46 PM
95 .  Don''t follow the posters below, to Hell. Don''t read filth.

 
Barbara Kay   1/24/2009 5:44 PM
96 .  Where are the Muslim moderates????
If there are only a "few" islamic fanatics creating trouble, as many muslims contend, then why is it that the "moderate" muslims do not stop the fanatics, do not protest, do not say anything when the islamic fanatics destruction??? The "moderates" seem to only find their voice when Israel retaliates. Are the muslim "moderates" condoning the acts of the fanatics? When Hamas and Al Qaeda set off rockets or bombs to kill innocent civilians, where was the voice of the "moderates"? No street protests? No UN resolution?
 
Moose   1/24/2009 5:24 PM
97 .  Christine G: Well put. God Bless You. Amen

 
Mango   1/24/2009 5:16 PM
98 .  Oren
"there is still controversy over cluster bombs in Lebanon" You now acknowledge there were cluster bombs, the previous statement you flat out denied they were used in Lebanon.

Israel is giving aid to Gaza after it flattened it! either way the aid will never amount to any thing close to what the citizens had before, and it won''t bring back the hundred of innocent lives they took from families.

As for Muslims extremists, they do exist and yes in most cases are more apparent than other fanatics but Muslims account for 22% of the worlds population about 1.2 billion. Out of this huge number the few extremists obviously do not represent the majority. Instead of Israel putting up walls and embargo''s they fail to face the root cause of the issues, they cover it up with more security and walls, to the present day of being an open aired prison for the people of Gaza, where in the world do you see this being done to people elsewhere? Do you really think this is a long lasting "humane" decision that w
 
RE: Christine G Comments   1/24/2009 5:15 PM
99 .  NKJV EXPOSED
You ain’t seen nothing yet. The hate filled jews want the whole new testament rewritten. They claim Christ was antisemitic to the jews!!!!
 
Bible Believer   1/24/2009 5:07 PM
100 .  Benfox
Your tirade of hatred and murder is just as evil as anything that pukes out of the mouths of Hamas thugs.
You''re in the same nasty business as them - "agree with what I say or I''ll stick a knife in you..."
About as far from the Spirit of Calvary as it is possible to go. Please don''t offend the Lord''s name by adding it to your own...
The sooner you Texan neanderthals leave this site the better it will be for Christ''s Truth...
 
  1/24/2009 5:05 PM
101 .  Go Chrsitine G ! Contend earnestly for TRUTH!
Very well expressed Christine !
Your detailed responses to Oren will resound in the heavenlies !
''The Truth'' which you have categorically stated will be effective in bringing down satanic strongholds which conspire to fan the flames of antisemitism via lying media reports and the lies, false images and staged anti Israel propaganda - which is the forte of
Hamas et al. Hasatan, the father of Lies governs Islam and takes those who ascribe to it captives to his will.
 
Kristin   1/24/2009 4:48 PM
102 .  Here....
http://translate.google.com/
 
  1/24/2009 4:33 PM
103 .  Evidence...
Google will translate it for you if you don''t read Italian....
http://www.corriere.it/esteri/09_gennaio_21/denuncia_hamas_cremonesi_ac41c6f4-e802-11dd-833f-00144f02aabc.shtml

 
  1/24/2009 4:29 PM
104 .  Evidence???
Both sides say this that and the other about the opposition, but WHERE IS THE EVIDENCE? This article refers to an Italian news report, so where is the link? What date was the article and was the title?
 
Matt   1/24/2009 3:45 PM
105 .  Oren 2
Are you really unaware of the manifest of the Islamic ideology?
To rid the world of ALL who do not follow their ideology, to completely convert the whole world to Islam?
How naive of you.
Israel are on the front lines. The Christian west is next. This isn''t an empty threat.
 
Christine G   1/24/2009 3:04 PM
106 .  To Oren
I''m not intentionally lying to you, there is still controversy over cluster bombs in Lebanon.
The only reason there are fewer suicide bombers getting into Israel is because of the wall and the monitoring of the crossings.
IDF forces capturing and imprisoning terrorists is what happens in a war. Deliberate shooting of civilians remains unproven.
How can you say Gaza citizens are being treated like animals by Israel? Even now Israel is giving aid to Gaza, now, as always, treating them in Israeli hospitals, continuing to provide them with utilities, even though Hamas consistently attempts to destroy the feed lines and steals the aid.
I stand on the side of truth Ore, not what the manipulated media reports.
If Israel had the disregard for human life you seem to believe, there wouldn''t be anyone left in Gaza.
 
Christine G   1/24/2009 3:01 PM
107 .  I agree with Benfox at 10:18am,All those that enjoy freedom,
now you need to thank men like Benfox who fought to keep us free and lived beside brave men who died for those who love freedom SO MUCH THEY GAVE THEIR LIVES to worship their God of choice!My Uncle died at Iwo Jima to stop the japenese from taking over the world with hitler..They bought us more time to be free,so before you condem men that have fought in combat,,remember this when good men do nothing evil prevails!!God Bless our Veterans,Israel,and The land of the free and brave USA!
 
Ben from Texas   1/24/2009 2:55 PM
108 .  America is not so broke
we found the money to kill babies again.
Now you can put an abortion on a credit card....yaaaa for Chase bank

Obama to fund abortion again....same old liberal agenda

Hos 13:16-14:1
16Samaria shall become desolate for she hath rebelled against her God: they shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped up.
KJV

http://dominick41.wordpress.com/

WORLD SCHOOL OF PROPHECY & NEWS’ EVENTS
 
WSOP&NE   1/24/2009 2:05 PM
109 .  Eugene: U R Right, but muslims don''t care
Yes, atrocities and massacres are being committed by muslims in al the countries you named, and more. But the muslim countries are turning a blind eye. They do not want to see. They are not helping their own kind either. In fact, most of the aid agencies helping those countries are actually CHRISTIAN agencies! The muslim countries are more preoccupied with ostracizing Israel. Even in Gaza and West Bank, most of the international volunteers in the humanitarian organization are Christians. Where are the muslims volunteers?
 
Moose   1/24/2009 11:54 AM
110 .  OREN: Wake Up!
The muslims have being persecuting churches in every country where the muslims form the majority. Yes, your Christian faith, since you said that you are Catholic, is under attack by Islam. Hamas is a terrorist organization. They even intimidate and brutalize their own fellow palestinians.
 
Moose   1/24/2009 11:45 AM
111 .  too all those who say my comment[s aren[t
christiian? Put our butt on the line? God did not tell me to put my head under the sword, If you think so, please put yours there first.
As a believer in Jesus Christ, He did not say to let the Unbelieber to let the enemies of God destroy you for my name sake? If you want to and you have the guts to do it, I praise y0u and your better then most Godly nature, easy to say, hard to make happen. Condemn me you want, I''ll stand in Gods judgement, not yours. God Bless Irael,
 
BENFOX   1/24/2009 10:18 AM
112 .  gaza res. your a low life coward and if you ever
met me in person and said the lie''s you have on this site? You couldn''t comment, you would be dead and we wouldn''t have to listen or read your lie''s. You are a coward, you have never seen me or had a face to face or you would be dead. Not brag, just factr, can''t face a man, hiding behind women and children. could and will bury you where ever you want. Fact, I have faced cowards like you in many places in the world, you all blend YELLOW. Want to face me? Denver Colo 80204 My name, anin''t hiding behind women and children, if you can''t find me then your a coward whinch I know you are? is that your upbringing? Must be, you talk but, can''t walk. Got the gut''s? Bring it on, hand to hand, knife to knilfe or what ever you satan worshipping piece of camel dung. Mad yes, tijred of the lies and your democic what ever. Come see me gutless?
 
BENFOX   1/24/2009 10:04 AM
113 .  Eugene, as much as much as we disagree, you
have a true statement. God Bless wisdom, something lacking today
 
BENFOX   1/24/2009 9:51 AM
114 .  Where is the condemnation of muslim atrocities?
When muslims committed atrocities, the other nations kept quiet. Even the western press kept quiet. The whole muslim violence is NOT about the West vs Islam, as the muslims try to paint it that way. It is about muslims'' trouble with everybody else, and that include nations in both the east, the west, the north, and the south! It is muslims'' intolerance of others. I have no cause to be pro-Israel as Israel is very far away from my country, but I do sympathise and empathise with the Israelis having to live in a place literally surrounded by hostile muslims,and they had being hostile to Israel from the day Israel was formed. They had vowed to destroy Israel even before the IDF was formed. Even before the first bullet was fired by Israel, and that is a historical fact.
 
Mango   1/24/2009 8:09 AM
115 .  Mango
I have to agree with you. But you left out the Sudan in Africa, where over two million Christians have been killed by muslims in the last ten years. or Somalia where the muslims kill anyone that is not muslim, or Kenia, Nigeria, the Gold Coast, and any where that islam is the majority religion. Just about any conflict in the world is started by islam.
 
Eugene   1/24/2009 7:20 AM
116 .  Mango
You''ve been drinking that western propaganda kool-aid, Mango.
You''re trying to convince yourself of your neurotic excursus.You know I speak the truth.You try to cover it up with agitprop.It''s not working.You may dissappear now or risk revealing the idiot you are.
 
Judah   1/24/2009 6:49 AM
117 .  Judah: a whole lot of BS and hypocrisy
There are plenty of Muslim prostitutes too. There are also plenty of Muslim women wearing clothes that show cleavages. There are plenty of Muslims drinking lbooze. There are as many Muslim homosexuals, they just dare not show it openly. There are higher incidences of incest among muslims. And talking about divorces, a muslim man can divorce his wife by just saying "I divorce you" three times. yeah simple as that. And some muslim men even do that by sms via handphones! And they can get their 5th wife by divorcing one of their 4 wives via that simple divorce. So hiding under the burqah and arabic gowns covered head to toe does not make a muslim a better person.
 
Mango   1/24/2009 6:40 AM
118 .  Oren: Muslim Individual vs Group
Oren, from your description of your environment and your nickname, I gather you are probably located somewhere in Indonesia, Malaysia or original from there, although I may be wrong. There is a difference in behaviour of people as individuals vs when in agroup. Sure muslims next door may be civilized and friendly. But as a group, they can get to be very unreasonable. The Muslim can live next door to a Hindu, Buddhist or Christian in Malaysia without any problem. But then as a group, they either condone the demolishment of temples or be quiet about it. Or they can support the muslim dominated government to erode the rights of other religions. Hindu temples are routinely demolished by the government or muslim groups in Malaysia. Tax money are generously channeled to mosques and muslim NGO, but denied to Christian churches, Hindus temples or Buddhist temples. Muslim orphanages get government financial assistance, but all others are left to fend for themselves. Muslims are allowed to criticised others in inter-r
 
Mango   1/24/2009 6:33 AM
119 .  Mango
That''s because the Christians bring in birth-control pills(kill-pills),prostitution,mini-skirts(with crossed legs distractions),booze,interest rates,homosexuals(America loves sodomites),parental disrespect,d-i-v-o-r-c-e-,promote lying,gambling,etc,etc,etc...
In other word...Islam is closer to GOD!
 
Judah   1/24/2009 6:24 AM
120 .  Muslims can dish out cartoons on others,but..
Muslim papers in many countries often print cartoons on other religions, but when some european papers print cartoons on their religion, they go into a frenzy and go on a rampage. Hey, if they want to dish it out, they got to learn to take it to.
 
Mango   1/24/2009 5:00 AM
121 .  Oren: Look at south east asia & middle east
In southern Thailand, muslims shoot and kill buddhist monks and set off bombs. In Indonesia, especially in sulawesi and other eastern Indonesian islands, muslims kill christians and burn churches and houses. In Malaysia, muslims prevent Christians from building new churches unless they put them in warehouses and commercial buidlings, and churches of tribal forest people have been demolished. And churches in Malaysia get a lot of harassment for printing their weeklies in the local language, and Bibles in the local Malay language is banned. In the middle east, it is even worse. Churches in Egypt are oftened attacked by muslims. Christians in Lebanon have been attacked by muslims many many times in recent history. Anywhere where muslims form the majority, the other religions are persecuted.
 
Mango   1/24/2009 4:52 AM
122 .  Oren: responding to killers
What do you expect the police to do if there is a killer on the loose in a college campus? Respond with a "corresponding proportionate force" of a single policeman, or send in a SWAT team to hunt down the killer? If Hamas shoots 50 rockets into Israel, is Israel expected to respond with 50 rockets so that the force is "proportionate"? Does that resolve the problem? Will that stop Hamas? As for spinning of news, which country or group does not spin news? Hamas is very good at spinning news. Likewise, I suppose Israel may need to spin some news too in order to balance out the spinning of news by anti-Israeli groups, and to keep up the morale of the Israelis.
 
Mango   1/24/2009 3:35 AM
123 .  Oren: Muslims are hostile neighbours everywhere
I live in a place where non-muslims are surrounded by large muslim populations. And in this part of the world, muslims have been know to persecute non-muslims now and then in it history. And "persecute" includes killing of people, burning houses, churches, temples etc. The Jews have been unfairly portrayed as greedy and crooked. Of course you find all sorts of people in any race or religion.But as a whole, the Jewish community has contributed much to the world. And all they want is to be left alone and treated fairly. They have worked hard for what they achieved.
 
Mango   1/24/2009 3:26 AM
124 .  Bert..there is a Barbara already, so best to use my middle.
..initial, or middle name K. or Kay

This is one of the reasons I used my initials, because there is a BK who writes, and a Barbara...so I used the BKN...now Barbara Kay.

No big deal. We recognize one another, anyway.
 
Barbara Kay   1/24/2009 3:23 AM
125 .  Oren: Read the speeches of leaders of ..
Hamas, Iran, Iraq, and many of their fellow arab countries. Visit the websites of muslim groups. There is a consistent message of "wiping off Israel from the face of the earth". In the past my initial reaction was that Israel was the big bully, and the Israeli neighbours were the little Davids. But when I pause to think how the Israelis feel, being surrounded by such hostile nations, I begin to understand that Israel need to be strong, and respond strongly to external attacks if Israel is to survive. If the arab nations gets a hint that Israel is weak, they WILL attack Israel.
 
Mango   1/24/2009 3:19 AM
126 .  Hi Eugene
I know Oren isn''t in agreement, unfortunately there are lots of people being deceived by the biased media, as we know, just felt moved to try to bring some light on it for Oren. Maybe my words will give some food for thought.
Love ya too brother.
 
Christine G   1/24/2009 2:53 AM
127 .  cont...
Anything else you allege, can you prove? Were you also aware that some of Hamas rockets carry white phospherous?
I think your quote " do unto others..." perhaps should be levelled at the terrorists in Gaza
 
Christine G   1/24/2009 1:42 AM
128 .  Oren
Who is it saying that Israel is misquoting facts?
For 8 years Israel have suffered daily rocket attacks, lived in bomb shelters in those areas suffering the attacks. Suffered suicide bombers, Families and children being murdered by terrorist crossing over the borders. Soldiers kidnapped, then murdered. Their reaction was to build a wall to stop these suicide bombers. At the same time, those Arabs living withing Israel have full citizenship, voting rights with their own party. There is still a soldier held, after being kidnapped, after two years, there has been no access allowed to the Red Cross. It still isn''t known if he is alive, even though Israel have released hundreds of terrorist prisoners in exchange for him. I can assure you this ''wiped off the map'' is certainly NOT gibberish. Have a listen to Amadinijab of Iran who sponsors Hamas and Hezbollah.
I don''t play victim, I''m English living in England. There were no cluster bombs used in Lebanon, Israel didn''t have any then. Anything el
 
Christine G   1/24/2009 1:38 AM
129 .  Oren. It is relevant.

 
RAYMOND   1/24/2009 1:09 AM
130 .  I''m Catholic
but this is not relevant.


 
Oren   1/24/2009 12:00 AM
131 .  Oren. How long have you been a muslim?

 
RAYMOND   1/23/2009 11:56 PM
132 .  NJKV EXPOSED
Matt 23:10
KJB - Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ.
NKJV - and do not be called teachers for One is your Teacher, the Christ.

Can anyone see what is going on?
 
RAYMOND   1/23/2009 11:53 PM
133 .  Ok Barbara... (looks almost like Ira)?...

 
Bert   1/23/2009 11:49 PM
134 .  Why do Israeli''s Love to Misquote Facts?
1stly I''m not religious, but for someone who want to preach I will quote "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you." If this woudl be the case, then the "religious" people of Israel would witness the atrocious treatment Israel gives to their fellow neighbors. Imagine if Israel were the poor country who were barricades by walls, and had an embargo on land sea and air! How woudl Israel react?
2ndly this "wiped off the map" gibberish has been misquoted and proven to be false yet you continue to play the victim as if your personal life is in Jeopardy, http://www.antiwar.com/orig/norouzi.php?articleid=11025

**You are right NO DEATHS are acceptable, please share this with your government who imposed death on hundreds of innocent people.

**Benfox** "but, what he leaves out is the intent which was meant to kill more." Israel didn''t have to have intend they just had to use white phosphorus, cluster bomb and depleted Uranium and their intent because a reality.

Who are the victims??
 
Oren   1/23/2009 11:49 PM
135 .  NJKV EXPOSED
Luke 13:8
KJB - Lord
NKJV - Sir

John 8:35
KJB - the Son
NKJV - a son

Anybody picking up on what''s going on?
 
RAYMOND   1/23/2009 11:48 PM
136 .  The Confusion of The Koran.
When a revelation came to muhammad, who is believed to have been
illiterate, it was once written down by his followers as they heard him
recite it. They wrote on whatever they could find to write on-leaves, dried
bones, scraps of parchment and so on. After muhammad''s death these
fragments of revelation were collected for the koran. Since these
revelations were given to muhammad in his native language, Arabic, it is
considered essential that every muslim should read and understand the
koran in Arabic.
 
RAYMOND   1/23/2009 11:40 PM
137 .  Oren
No deaths are acceptable, neither are some statements, from EITHER side, like ''wipe Jews from the face of the earth''.
I can only reiterate to you to do some research yourself if you want the truth.
Oren you are being hoodwinked, but unfortunately can''t see it
This has nothing to do with religion. What you read here from most, are postings from people who have a relationship with the true living God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and before you ask, not all are Jewish.
Read the Bible Oren, in it you will find history, what is, and what is to come, All your questions answered, the truth shown to you, if you are willing.
It''s really your choice.


 
Christine G   1/23/2009 11:32 PM
138 .  Alexis Hooper, you are so right. oren thinks its
okay to shoot rockets and only kill 13-14 people but, what he leaves out is the intent which was meant to kill more. When Israel responds and the hamas hides behind their families and in schools, hospitals and private homes they expect to the IDF to throw up their hands and say, oh well, maybe next time? These blind hamas lovers know their logic is false but, they want us to be just as stupid. Not going to happen oren the blind. God Bless Israel, Gods Land including Gaza and His Chosen People, those who are blind shall reap what they sow.
 
BENFOX   1/23/2009 11:24 PM
139 .  Truth Behind Rockets
13 -14 people in eight years have died from Hamas rocket attacks on Israel.

 
Oren   1/23/2009 11:12 PM
140 .  Truth Concerning Hamas
I praise God that the truth is emerging even if it is in bits and pieces. The world has been buying the lies of the media about what is really happening over there. How many countries would sit there and let another country shoot rockets at them day in and day out for years? No country but Israel would have that kind of forbearance and keep in mind that is the life mission of Hamas and Hezbollah to eliminate every Israeli man, woman and child from the face of the earth. Hurrah for Israel for finally standing up and fighting even knowing they would be condemned by the whole world because of the Islamic control and influence throughout the world.
 
Alexis Hooper   1/23/2009 11:07 PM
141 .  You are the BRAINWASHED ones Israel Doesn''t want Peace.
Please tell me the non biased sources of media and DO NOT LIST Israeli affiliated news, that would eliminate about 50% of the news available.
Like I stated before if you would like to regurgitate the rhetoric in which Israeli media has posed human shield etc etc. then explain this... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXq57XK2L0A&feature=channel_page
Yes I did vote for Obama, he wasn''t my first choice RON PAUL was, but media blocked him from getting the votes. Much like how your media is blocking news from you. If Israel wanted peace which I really doubt they do, then they would simply follow international law! Yet they continue to build illegal settlements. Israel has killed hundreds of women and children, these are true terrorists in mine and many others eyes. (GODS LAND WHICH INCLUDES GAZA???, and I am the one who''s brainwashed) Religion is the root of all conflicts especially the Israeli conflicts. I think with this mentality Israel was "chosen" to be at war for eternity and will stay at war.
 
Oren   1/23/2009 10:41 PM
142 .  People who believe by faith that they are
saved by grace through faith in the finished work of Jesus Christ at His death, burial and resurrection should not be judged by someone who doesn''t believe in churches, godly pastors who know that salvation comes by the only way, Jesus is the way, the truth and the life and no man comes to the Father except through Him. For a person who doesn''t like churches I say, that is your choice but, don''t judge others by your rules, not Gods? I know where I''m going to spent eternaity and this blind person leading the blind needs to lighten up on those who choose church over self induce christanity. Must be a divider, to hate people of faith that go to church and don''t force our beliefs on those who don''t? I think Jesus told us all we need to know about such as these. God Bless all those who believe and are saved and hope the rest see the ray of hope.
 
BENFOX   1/23/2009 10:23 PM
143 .  Christine G
I admire your effort, but if someone is so blind as to think that these sourses he gave are neutral, then there is nothing to do except to understand that he is blind and brainwashed. If he lives in the Us and this is the source for what he believes then he probbly voted for Obama. So there is not much hope for him. There is still a very small ray of hope. One, that he open his eyes, wich would help in the phisical world. Two that he would accept his Lord an Master that he might be able to descern truth from lie.

Love ya sis.
 
Eugene   1/23/2009 9:58 PM
144 .  oren, european are both arab nuts, they have
to be in order to say the things they do. hamas hid weapons in hospitals, schools and private home from where they also shot off rockets knowing that these citizens would be killed. hamas are the terrorest, they do hide behind women and children and even hope they are killed for their evil cause. These deaths are on their heads not the IDF. Want peace, show peace, love your family then don''t use them as shields for allah-satan''s cause. The Jew haters are blind by demonic forces that control them. God Bless Israel, the IDF, Gods Land which includes Gaza, and His Chosen People and let those who use their family and friends like rocks or non-humans, reap what you sow.
 
BENFOX   1/23/2009 9:54 PM
145 .  Bias is natural but.... be realistic here.
BBC, CSPAN, Associated Press, CNN, PressTV, Canadian Press. aljazeera.

Press TV and Cspan are some of the most neutral news reporting available. You can also argue the Israel News,Jerusalem Post, Jerusalem Report are just as biased in favor of Israel. I see posts here titled "we should have used Nukes" and "the Death toll is ONLY 600" as if 600 is acceptable too, reality is the majority of the injuries are citizens, many of these are children, who had NOTHING to do with the war. The human shield argument doesn''t'' fit either. If the IDF claims all these casualties are because Hamas used human shield then they should have used a different tactic of war. How can you support what Israel did to the innocent civilians in Lebanon, ping thousands of cluster bombs hours before the war ended, these bombs are still killing people, again mostly children. I can not support a regime like this.
 
Re: Oren Comments   1/23/2009 9:25 PM
146 .  Oren 2
Hamas, Hezbollah and their sponsors are past masters in the art of deceit and manipulation of the media, all done to manipulate world opinion.
Don''t be fooled by them, everything is not always as it first seems.
Why not try searching other sources too.
 
Christine G   1/23/2009 8:53 PM
147 .  Hello Oren
Thank you, I''m wondering if you realise how truly biased these reporting stations are, and where their information came from?
Yes it''s true there was a lot of carnage in Gaza, but none of us know for sure that the perpretator was Israel. Take a step back.
When Israel fought Hezbollah in Lebanon, much the same was said about Israel by these same TV reporters, that is until unbiased investigations were made that completely disproved the allegations. None of these findings were reported on by these TV reporters, nor the wrongful accusations apologised for.
Hamas like Hezbollah are known to use their own people as human shields, known to launch their rockets from civilian areas, and even known to kill their own in order to blame Israel. Neither are these aid agencies without blame, if they were to be honest, they know they are being used by Hamas as a shield and do nothing to stop it.
Wait just a little while, the truth will come out, although you''ll probably have to search other sources for it.<
 
Christine G   1/23/2009 8:50 PM
148 .  Bert..Ire means...

intense anger wrath.

 
Barbara Kay   1/23/2009 8:42 PM
149 .  should have used a Nuke

 
  1/23/2009 8:35 PM
150 .  Be Assured, Israel Today did not write
that foul post either. They monitor and remove, but we can help by not responding to these vile postings. I have a personal agenda for this vile stinking person posting at campuses where my kids and grandson attend!
I am praying the police get him on something and lock him up a long time.
 
Ellie   1/23/2009 8:11 PM
151 .  IDF
IDF burned children with phosphorus and napalm.
 
European   1/23/2009 8:09 PM
152 .  re:Israel Lost My Support
BBC, CSPAN, Associated Press, CNN, PressTV, Canadian Press. aljazeera

To name a few.
 
Oren   1/23/2009 8:08 PM
153 .  Oren
Can I ask you, on what information do you support your allegations against Israel?
 
Christine G   1/23/2009 8:04 PM
154 .  Folks PLEASE DO NOT RESPOND OR
Acknowledge Palestinian Husband posts.
I know you all can do as you want, but it only invites this person to hang out here.
Israel Today automatically removes his posts.
No one need call it to their attention.
I am certain they would agree the best thing is to not read nor respond to these posts . This person wants your attention.
Starve him, and he goes away.
 
Ellie   1/23/2009 7:59 PM
155 .  Israel Lost My Support
The cruel and barbaric acts in which Israel has posed on the People of Gaza was indisputably an act of war crimes. Any support in which I had for Israel is forever lost. To be victims of atrocities such as the Holocaust then to turn to you neighbor and brutally murder women and children with experimental weapons and burns will NEVER be forgotten.
 
Oren   1/23/2009 7:57 PM
156 .  Israel Lost My Support
The cruel and barbaric acts in which Israel has posed on the People of Gaza was indisputably an act of war crimes. Any support in which I had for Israel is forever lost. To be victims of atrocities such as the Holocaust then to turn to you neighbor and brutally murder women and children with experimental weapons and burns will NEVER be forgotten.
 
Oren   1/23/2009 7:54 PM
157 .  Israel Lost My Support
The cruel and barbaric acts in which Israel has posed on the People of Gaza was indisputably an act of war crimes. Any support in which I had for Israel is forever lost. To be victims of atrocities such as the Holocaust then to turn to you neighbor and brutally murder women and children with experimental weapons and burns will NEVER be forgotten.
 
Oren   1/23/2009 7:51 PM
158 .  The obamanation
just told Israel to open its'' Gaza borders! This is going to get worse people. This admin. is going to be terrible for Israel.
 
cappy-dawggie   1/23/2009 7:38 PM
159 .  PH
You know, just being a foul-mouthed wanna-be "juice-killer" doesn''t give you the most hated person on this site award. I rightly claim that title. Do you know why? Because I am intelligent and know scripture. People don''t take you seriously at all, PH. Do you know why? Because you are a moron. When you laugh about murder and gay rape, people rightly assume you have an I.Q. of about 20. So keep it up, and let the rest of us be reminded why we think arabs are scum.

Have a crappy day!
 
captaindawg   1/23/2009 7:35 PM
160 .  Please read the post from PH.
He is a pure and simple man. He is lashing out against Israel Fuck. We at Israel Fuck today support Palestine Husband’s Jihad against Israeli Fuck’s. God Bless Palestine Husband’s, and long live Palestine’s Husband’s.
 
Israel Today   1/23/2009 7:03 PM
161 .  Please read the post from PH.
He is a pure and simple man. He is lashing out against Israel Fuck. We at Israel Fuck today support Palestine Husband’s Jihad against Israeli Fuck’s. God Bless Palestine Husband’s, and long live Palestine’s Husband’s.
 
Israel Today   1/23/2009 7:02 PM
162 .  My IP address is.........................
161.243.64.46


I am going to hold an Israeli Fuck in my room at Kubaton point and Fuck the Shit out of the Israeli Fuck as I chant A Yeah We You. I will broadcast the rape on my wife Vertex Radio. The frequency is the national USA police frequency. I will be unstoppable. Israel Fuck will never stop me. For I am victorious and invinceable. The rape will take place in Jacksonville Florida in the area of Baymeadows Road and 9 A. The zip code is 32256. Trace me so you can watch me.
 
Palestines Husband   1/23/2009 7:01 PM
163 .  My IP address is.......................
161.243.64.46

I am going to hold an Israeli Fuck in my room at Kubaton point and Fuck the Shit out of the Israeli Fuck as I chant A Yeah We You. I will broadcast the rape on my wife Vertex Radio. The frequency is the national USA police frequency. I will be unstoppable. Israel Fuck will never stop me. For I am victorious and invinceable. The rape will take place in Jacksonville Florida in the area of Baymeadows Road and 9 A. The zip code is 32256. Trace me so you can watch me.
 
Palestines Husband   1/23/2009 7:00 PM
164 .  PH! You are a simple mmmaaaannnn!!!......
Cum I will join you jihad and defend your woman Palestine. Against all Israeli Fuck’s. Israel Fuck will never stop us. Fo we are unstoppable. A Yeah WE You are victorious. A Yeah WE You are unstoppable. Plan and simple.
 
Simpagero   1/23/2009 6:58 PM
165 .  PH! You are a simple mmmaaaannnn!!!......
Cum I will join you jihad and defend your woman Palestine. Against all Israeli Fuck’s. Israel Fuck will never stop us. Fo we are unstoppable. A Yeah WE You are victorious. A Yeah WE You are unstoppable. Plan and simple.
 
Simpagero   1/23/2009 6:57 PM
166 .  Barbara, you wrote about Jeremiah,
Yes he was very courageuos, to tell the truth =even when nobody wanted to hear this.. and he kept going on and on...
Once I read Jeremiah in one day- meditating on it... very impressive, if you come in the atmosphere of the ''lonesome'' Jeremiah-against ALL.... Praise God, he stayed faithful! to our God!

(Only the word ''ire'' I did not found its meaning). Look up to Him, Barbara, and keep serving men -not yourself like many do- (although some may differ from each other''s view).
 
Bert   1/23/2009 6:11 PM
167 .  Thank you Barbara 3.39 you lift up, you
stress the Name of Jesus, His PERSON... and it''s true: it
is

all

about

Him.

Halleluuuuuuuuuujah.
Jesus is alive. IN my heart!
The Kingdom is within you, Amen.
 
Bert   1/23/2009 6:03 PM
168 .  Barbara Kay 3:39 PM
The Words of The Book were inspired by The Holy Sprit..therefore The Word is the Authority. They were listening to The Living Word Yeshua. Many wanted miracals, but not The Truth. Yeshua is G-D! "be grateful your name is in written The Book of Life". "for which of these miracals do you stone me" Yeshua said
 
Gloria   1/23/2009 5:46 PM
169 .  Israel: you did the right thing
To the Israelis, you guys did the right thing. If you pussy foot with hamas and the other arabs, they will run all over you. They only understand force. Remember their stated goal is to destroy Israel.
 
Tiger   1/23/2009 5:02 PM
170 .  Raymond: What can we expect from..
a muhammad who went into a cave to smoke dope and then came out telling the arabs he had a dream where his allah told him this and that? The teachings of the Quran is so perverted that it must be the devil talking to muhammad in his dreams.
 
Banana   1/23/2009 4:50 PM
171 .  The Confusion of The Koran.
The Koran not only denies and controverts the foundational truths of
the Bible, but it also contains contradictions and errors concerning
persons, places and historical and chronological events in the Old and
New Testaments. The Koran contains 114 suras or chapters, starting
with the longest sura and ending with the shortest. The order of these
suras lacks the historical and chronological order in which these
revelations were given to muhammad during a 22 year period. They
were simply put in order of length, starting with the longest and ending
with the shortest. More to come.
 
RAYMOND   1/23/2009 4:25 PM
172 .  Your kidding Jim Borge you do what
the book says to to do and ask !

Yep !

My kids ask me for a lot of things.

Some things they ask for I do not give for I realize the trial they may face, (without my help, based on my trials endured) produces character.

Man what a character my trials produced !

I am enduring self induced trial right now, real nausiated, to much chicken skin fat. No stones just faulty Gall Blader! Had it all my life, prayed God said do not eat excessive fat and will be fine, Cmo not to smart, does not listen... pays !



 
CmoGrued   1/23/2009 4:11 PM
173 .  GOD BLESS ISRAEL
GOD BLESS ISRAEL AND THE JEWISH PEOPLE
info@israel1948.com
 
rune oslo Norway   1/23/2009 4:02 PM
174 .  Ali Hamas & the 40 thieves
Hamas like the war drag on, so that they can skim funds in the name of buying weapons to fight IDF. Also they can control the black market for essential goods like food and medicine. Now they are running a "protection" racket: If you don''t pay up, you get to join the "front line" to receive an IDF bullet, or else hamas themselves will shoot you.
 
Banana   1/23/2009 3:49 PM
175 .  Jerimiah suffered the ire of his fellow citizens...
..and they often wanted to kill him.

I think in every case throughout the Bible, men were persecuted and killed because the Word of God was presented to them, and they "bumped into" God''s AUTHORITY. Not just words, or beliefs, but they bumped into GOD Whose words came through men.

People were enamored with Jesus reading from the Scriptures in the Temple, until He looked up and told them that He was the fulfillment of them. THEN...they wanted to KILL Him.

It isn''t the words that have the effect, it is the Spirit of God, and His Authority...that does.
 
Barbara Kay   1/23/2009 3:39 PM
176 .  new low by hamas: shooting palestinians
Hamas could not hack it against the better trained IDF. Then they take it out on their fellow unarmed palestinians, shot them, then blamed it on IDF. Hamas has sunk to a new low. Are these low down scoundrels the heroes of Gazans? Are these the muslim mujahuddins? These are demons!
 
Moose   1/23/2009 3:38 PM
177 .  To Jim Borge (cont.)
He has repeatedly said, that he does not follow this Benny Hinn person, or the other ones, that are fakes. And it''s really shameful to see them behaving in this way, of attacking him and others. I pray, they will come to realize, what Bert''s been saying is true. And that, there''s been nothing going on here, but fellowship between the brethren. And that, no one is following anyone, except our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. God bless you.
 
Brenda Joyce   1/23/2009 12:57 PM
178 .  To Jim Borge
Hi Jim, I also believe in healing. I was healed of a bad case of asthma, about 5 yrs ago Christmas Day. By putting my complete trust and faith in the Lord, I prayed to him and I immediately quit taking all my medicines, including my inhalers, and I haven''t had an asthma attack since, thank the Lord!!! Of course, I don''t know that much about faith healers, except to know that there are a lot of fakes out there. But according to the Bible in 1Cor.12, there are those that have been given the gift of healing, along with the other gifts to different people. Because no one person can have more than one gift. And so, we just have to try and discern, with the guidance of the Holy Spirit who the true ones are, that have been blessed with these gifts. And concerning Bert, he hasn''t said, or done anything, that I know about, that he deserves this witch hunt, that David and a few others, have decided to go after him with. He has repeatedly said, that he does not follow this Benny Hinn person or the other ones, that ar
 
Brenda Joyce   1/23/2009 12:41 PM
179 .  Cmo Grued
I enjoyed reading your testimony. God has been good to Cecil Murphy and will continue. The Murphy''s I know are Irish Catholics. Very religious and devout. Need the savior. Religion is death. Glad to know you were delivered from the JW''s. By the way, I believe in HEALING. If I am ill, I go to my Healer, Jesus. No Benny Hinn, no Oral Roberts, no "middle man". I go to the Source. And the Elders of the Church according to James.
 
Jim Borge   1/23/2009 9:53 AM
180 .  Kristin ~ my real name is

Cecil Murphy.

No one has ever been able to call me by my real name.

Sysil, Cecil the Desiel, Cecil the Sea Sick Sea Serpent (must be over 50), Murph the surf, Mo, MoGruder, and several others. MoGrued stuck quit awhile with one crowd, so just stuck a C on it for Cecil.

Was a JW till 1975. When Amageddon did not come as predicted I gave up performing good works. Door to Door etc.

Knew I was a hypocryte and quit trying make to the New World. Since death was just the end I decided to eat drink and be merry!

I always was little wild, let go all self-restraint. Self destruction took about 8 years. God took me to the end then lifted. Glory !



 
CmoGrued   1/23/2009 9:04 AM
181 .  Ben Cmo - an interesting note
I once attended a synagogue meeting and the women are segregated from the men in their own separate area .. you should have heard the nattering and gossiping !Heads bowed for prayer and natterings and whisperings galore! It was tradition !
I could well have quoted Paul''s words to them!
 
Kristin   1/23/2009 8:17 AM
182 .  Cmo Grued
Ah yes Cmo ! I will admit that I had a liittle giggle when I read your post!
I knew what you were up to posting that! I guess I know you much better than you think by now... and that subject is certainly prone to getting folk hot under the collar but in truth there is not one subject that is beyond our capacity as believers to discuss amicably and without provoking one another to discord. Pleae may I ask what your name means .. Is it your real name or symbolic of something?
I keep thinking ''common ground''! Well we should all be on that here shouldn''t we! Blessings!
 
Kristin   1/23/2009 8:08 AM
183 .  BenFox / Cmogrued
No worries Ben/ Cmo I know and firmly believe in God''s Order
and I disapprove of women ministers leading a church but not from praying/exercising the Gifts in the Body .
re The Silence in the Churches
I read some background info on that and it seems that the women referred to in those times were prone to discuss issues aloud among themselves while in the church gathering. Paul admonishes them not to do so but to ask their husbands at home- who are supposed to know the answers !!
[ wink /nudge/ LOL!]
it''s similar to Paul telling others NOT to be greedy a the comm table but to honour its symbolism. The early church had much to learn as do we!
 
Kristin   1/23/2009 7:58 AM
184 .  gaza res, you getting tired? Must be too late
for your pea sized brain? You have never seen me or you wouldn''t be putting your lie''s on this site. Or maybe you saw me and instead of laughing you were looking for some women and childrean to hide behind. I believe I have seen you, a gutless person was trying to hide behind women and children but, they wouldn''t hide you, so your fast cowards feet let you run away, wow, I couldn''t stop laughing and you in a dress with pants under, what a sight you were. I do remember that, which is more then you could do on your drugs and booze. you are so funny you could probaby win? I''d be laughting to hard to hit you. still praying for your lying person. Were you a women or a person, can''t call you a man.
 
BENFOX   1/23/2009 7:11 AM
185 .  benfud the coward that you are, lets have
I’ve seen you many times and my eyes are excellent. You ARE a runt!Now tell us again how tough and smart you are so I can have a good laugh when I read it in the morning. When I saw you for the first time I had to turn and walk away I was laughing so hard I thought I’d have to sit down. I think you saw it if you remember back.
 
Gaza Res   1/23/2009 6:44 AM
186 .  continued less coward that you are, lets have
a face to face if your so brave and you better bring your lying god and prophet with you, will need all the help you can get. God Bless Israel, Gods Land including the Gaza and His Chosen People, God help this disspectible person no name and if he wants to continue to be a losser, let him reap what he sows.
 
BENFOX   1/23/2009 6:26 AM
187 .  gaza resident, no name, no brain, using one of
your other names, doesn''t help you one bit, your so stupid you always give yourself away. Don''t have to prove anything, the truth is in every news cast except your demonicly lead ones, that lie to you, so you can lie to others. If I''m a red faced runt, why don''t you look me up, not enough women and children to hide behind? your style coward who hides behind all kinds of names. Told you where I live, can''t take on the runt 66 year old guy. I could defeat you blind, I would just smell the women and know your hiding behind them. I have achieved much my friend, got your goat, not hard to do but yet a victory. What did you do before you hid behind your family and cost them their lives. you no more live in gaza then I live in a slum tenement. I am proud of myself, have led a lot of your people to the Lord Jesus Christ, the One true God and they love me for bring them out of the darkness of allah-satan, now they don''t have to hide from anything except demonic people like yourself, make you proud? gut
 
BENFOX   1/23/2009 6:21 AM
188 .  war crimes are hiding weapons in hospital and
PROVE IT!!!! You are just a filthy loud mouth with NOTHING but jew lies and inuendo to repeat. You have never amounted to anything on your own but being a sawed off red faced runt. After 66 years you have never achieved anything except being a drunk and still live in a slum tenement. You must really be proud of yourself. Quite a life !!!!
 
Gaza Resident   1/23/2009 6:11 AM
189 .  Kristin ~ I was stirring up trouble
I knew I would get a response !

You are truely wonderful !

I would like to copy your responses on healing. Yes... very profound Words.

I was smart enough not to ruin that testimony !

I do concur with Ben 5:33... but I have learned from you, so I was instructed ! And very well !


 
CmoGrued   1/23/2009 6:05 AM
190 .  Great comment Gloria. God Bless You for your
comment to travelingeddie.
 
BENFOX   1/23/2009 5:41 AM
191 .  war crimes are hiding weapons in hospital and
schools and yes private homes, hamas did that and always has and that isn''t a lie. hamas hides behind women and children and are responsible for every innocent life, that is the war crime and you must be guilty if you really live in gaza, so called resident? your god and lie''s will re revealed by Him who comes with great power and glory and that isn''t that little god allah my friend. God Bless Israel, Gods Land including Gaza and His Chosen People the Jews and may her enemies who lie all the time, reap what they sow.
 
BENFOX   1/23/2009 5:39 AM
192 .  Kristin, I don''t disagree with your scripture but,
God is not a God of confusion, 1 Tim 2:12 "But, I suffer not a women to teach, not to usup authority over the the man, but to be in silence" In Eph 5 Gods gives his order for life and the church. Eph 5:22-33. A women pastor would have authority over all the men in that congreation as the sheppard of the body. I know that isn''t popular in todays society but, I live by the Word of God, not what the world thinks it should be today. Men and women are equal as you quoted in Gods eye, but He is also the author of our faith, so I have to obey what He says, not what people want today. God Bless You and Your Family Kristin.
 
BENFOX   1/23/2009 5:33 AM
193 .  War Crimes
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/jan/21/israel-gaza-international-law
 
Gaza Resident   1/23/2009 5:12 AM
194 .  War Crimes
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/jan/21/israel-gaza-international-law
 
Gaza Resident   1/23/2009 5:12 AM
195 .  Careful Guys!!! CMO / BEN
GOD certainly has His Order no doubt about it!
but unlike Islam GOD sets high and values of equality on men and women .
They are different physically, mentally and emotionally yet designed to be complementary to each other.
The underlying truth which the other aspects are hinged upon is that
''IN CHRIST
There is no Jew or Greek
No Male or Female
but ALL are ONE.''
 
Kristin   1/23/2009 5:03 AM
196 .  dumb sheep, not bumb...sorry

 
Gloria   1/23/2009 4:36 AM
197 .  Traveling Eddie 9:38 PM
There are good Teachers that tell you about deceivers, the trouble is there are to many bumb sheep like yourself that don''t want to learn, just complain. I have left two building that do what you have said. BUT I will never leave The LORD and HIS Word by HIS Grace. Get a Bible and read it "In the Beginning G-D" start there first.
 
Gloria   1/23/2009 4:34 AM
198 .  If I have a protest and that too much, it''s
because of people who call evil good and good evil. If the shoe fits, you know who you are? God Bless Israel, Gods Land and Chosen People and His sheppards who preach the gospel in season and out. Sheppards who love the people enough to tell them the truth even when it''s not the worlds popular theme.
 
BENFOX   1/23/2009 3:41 AM
199 .  Eugene, when I fight for my chruch and pastor
you conclude something not there. Your statement says if my chruch isn''t growing its because it''s dead? My chruch doesn''t grow because the true gospel is preached there, sin and all, people don''t want to hear that message so they go where they will hear what makes them feel good. I''ll take my church over anyone of those feel good churches. You should try it some day friend. God Bless
 
BENFOX   1/23/2009 3:35 AM
200 .  Thank You Naomi, my chruch is like the last two
you mentioned and that is what I was trying to say when I defended my chruch and pastor, sorry if you thought I meant other wise. God Bless.
 
BENFOX   1/23/2009 3:31 AM
201 .  Good scripture CmoGrued, I agree totally. I
know thats not popular but, don''t think the Holy Spirit cared about their feeling on this matter. Again God Bless.
 
BENFOX   1/23/2009 3:29 AM
202 .  Thanks CmoGrued, I also listen to pastor Hill
in Carolina and he is the same way as the preacher your talking about, can''t be dead in his fundamental church either. God Bless You and Your Family.
 
BENFOX   1/23/2009 3:27 AM
203 .  Anyone with any brain would know
the jews are lieing again. That’s all they know, that’s all they do. Why would Hammas commandeer ambulances when the IOF was blowing up any they saw move?
The empty hospital beds? The IOF bombed most of them. Besides that, they don’t put the dead in hospitals!!!!
 
Gaza Resident   1/23/2009 3:18 AM
204 .  Benfox ~ What do you think of this one
But I do not allow a woman to teach or exercise authority over a man, but to remain quiet.

For it was Adam who was first d, and then Eve.

And it was not Adam who was deceived, but the woman being deceived, fell into transgression.

But women will be preserved through the bearing of children if they continue in faith and love and sanctity with self-restraint.




 
CmoGrued   1/23/2009 3:15 AM
205 .  Older Testament
I read your comment, and I m so sad that the churchs teachs the heart of our Father in heaven is not for them, if anyone of you can show me where ELIOHIM DID AWAY WITH HE WORD, WHICH JOHN SAID WAS OUR MESSIAH, HE IS THE WORD AND GOD S WORDS WILL NEVERY PAST AWAY. HE SAID THAT HIS COUNSEL WILL STAND. AND IF YOU SAY THAT YESHUA IS THE SAME YESERDAY TODAY AND FOREVER, AND STILL BELIEVE WHAY YOU DO, AND YESHUA SAID THAT SCRIPTURE COULD NOT BE BROKEN, WE ALL NEED TO SEARCH THE SCRIPTURES AND SEE IF WHAT WE ARE BEEN TOLD IS TRUE.DON T TAKE MY WORD BUT GOD S WORD
 
Jeri   1/23/2009 3:13 AM
206 .  BENFOX cont
ALIVE CHURCHES
A church as was in Philadelphia. Jesus was pleased with them.
A church as was in Smyrna. Jesus knew their affliction and distress and pressing trouble and their poverty but they were rich. They were abused, reviled and slandered.

 
Naomi   1/23/2009 3:06 AM
207 .  BENFOX
DEAD CHURCHES
A church as was in Ephesus. They did all kinds of works but had lost their first love.
A church as was in Pergamum – They allowed sin in their midst and had corrupt teachers who deceive believers into compromise with worldliness.
A church as was in Thyatira – They promote tolerance toward pagan practices.
A church as was in Sardis – They were supposed to be alive but were dead. Jesus did not find a thing they had done which met the requirements of God or was perfect in His sight.
A church as was in Laodicea – They were neither hot nor cold. They were lukewarm.

“Those whom I love, I tell their faults and convict and convince and reprove and chasten. So be enthusiastic and in earnest and burning with zeal and repent.” Rev. 3:19


 
Naomi   1/23/2009 3:05 AM
208 .  Benfox ~ one of my favorite preachers
is Ben Davidson somewhere in Oklahoma... his preaching will raise the dead !

Independent Fundimental Baptist

People in first seven rows issued towels!

Favorite sermon... Keep yourselves in the Love of God !

Impossible to be dead in that church or take a snooze!

They do not believe in sign gifts and the Spirit of God moves greater there than any place I have ever seen !

Glory !

 
CmoGrued   1/23/2009 3:04 AM
209 .  Hamas War Crimes
This article is very well written,if you like fiction.
It abounds with seedy informants..a misleading headline, the epitasis is juvenile, pimping the instincts of a greedy,drab,maladroit,neurotic nazialist!
 
Judah   1/23/2009 2:49 AM
210 .  UN,MEDIA AND RECROS BEWARE OF SUPPORTING TERRORISTS.
It is very unfortunate that the UN,RED CROSS AND WESTERN MEDIA CAN BE USED BY TERRORIST.
To me i find it very hard to believe the above organisation go too low to abandon their primary duties and consend to be use by Hamas.
If you listen to CNN and UN official comments during this war,you will infact notice such biased abd sentimentalism.
My question is why do they hate Isreal ,no wonder why Isreal did not allow the media to enter Gaza,may if they allow tham they would have do the same thing they did in Lebanon,giving false news and report.
Well i believe it wil soon be their turn sooner if they keep on supporting them .
UN should tell me how they wanted to fight terrorist while they are encouraging them.
Where are they when Hamas broke the first peace accord.Where are they when Iran was sending amunition via turnel.Where are they when the Hamas is sending missile to Northen Isreal for good 8 months.
Now isreal has stopeed bomberding them what next and i believe the same UN will be in exi
 
Charles   1/23/2009 2:35 AM
211 .  BenFox
Me thinks that thou doest protest to much. Could it be that you aren''t sure. A stagnate church is one that does not grow. this is the discription that you have given of your church. A growing church is either an ear tickler or a place where God is present. A stagnate church is usually neither hot nor cold. Is this why you protest so much?
 
Eugene   1/23/2009 2:20 AM
212 .  what is a dead church naomi? A small church who''s
preacher is not into tongues and signs and wonders, is that what you meant. Rather put my faith in scripture and Gods will then feelings and emotions. My church isn''t dead and its not the church of the world and it''s religeious teachings. God Bless Fairview Baptist Church in Denver and its Born Again Believers.
 
BENFOX   1/23/2009 1:56 AM
213 .  isn''t that normal Bert Holland when anyone
tells the truth about islam, the satanic, false religion with its corrupt book and child molesting prophet mohammad. Your right Bert Holland. God Bless Israel.
 
BENFOX   1/23/2009 1:52 AM
214 .  For people who speak German here is news
of an Austrian parlemantarian, she gets three months prison because she called Mohamad a Child raper, and some more...

http://www.fpoe-stmk.at/index.php?id=1090&backPID=1086&tt_news=27009
 
Bert, Holland   1/23/2009 1:47 AM
215 .  naomi, wasn''t defending all churches but,
when some idiot attacks with a broad brush then I feel I should defend my pastor and church, did I hit one of your nerves. No broad brush then no defense. Hope you understand that. Read the article, sounded like he or she meant all churches and their pastors. If I''m wrong about defending my pastor and church, then so be it. God Bless Godly Pastors that do the will of God without reguard to money or standing.
 
BENFOX   1/23/2009 1:46 AM
216 .  Benjamin.
To suggest that these people are unaware that they are lying
is ridiculous.
 
RAYMOND   1/23/2009 12:44 AM
217 .  Benjamin.
To suggest that these people are unaware that they are lying is
rediculas
 
RAYMOND   1/23/2009 12:36 AM
218 .  cap dog
People would be more likely to communicate with you if you didn''t insult them and their faith. A spoon full of sugar & all that you know. They don''t insult Jusaisim, but hold the Jews and Israel up in high regard because they are spiritual Jews, grafted in by the cleansing of their sins by Jesus Christ. You are rude, obnoxious, and LOST.
 
What can take away your sin, nuthin but the Blood of Jesus!   1/23/2009 12:35 AM
219 .  Dear Naomi I checked, but I could find nobody
with this touched nerve? Well, maybe I don''t read carefully. It''s getting late,.. nice you are here again, Naomi!
 
Bert   1/23/2009 12:19 AM
220 .  Sarcasm a little much
Alan - it''s okay to be sarcastic, I think we all get it. But the question I wish I could answer is, do those in the UN and in the press who perpetuate the lies know they''re lying, or are they so taken in by their hatred that they actually believe their propaganda?

I guess only the Lord really knows their innermost heart.

Considering how evil flourishes in this world, the gift of eternal salvation is all the more precious. No wonder the saints in heaven praise God day and night.
 
Benjamin   1/23/2009 12:10 AM
221 .  I''m shocked! (2)
If they''re not careful, the Lord of Lords, the Elohim, the Creator of the Universe and Heaven and Earth might one day have a fit of anger, and do something really harmful that they might come to regret they lied and did so many bad things.

As for me and my family, we just don''t believe anything that comes from the mouths of people who hate Israel and the Jewish people. If the Jews and Christians ever disappeared from this world, it would be a bleak, lawless, immoral, dim-witted and culturally bankrupt planet. It would be a little like hell.
 
Alan   1/22/2009 11:58 PM
222 .  I''m shocked!
I am absolutely aghast with shocked surprise. To think that Hamas and the Palestinians would grossly exaggerate casualty figures to manipulate public opinion... which is then so eagerly accepted by the UN, the liberal press, and Israel haters everywhere... It''s such a mind blower that people would do such a thing.

I wonder if those poor oppressed Palestinians, are aware of how their plight is taken advantage of like that.

Do such people know that lies like that are sinful and evil? What is this world coming to?

If they''re not careful, the Lord of Lords, the Elohim, the Creator of the Universe and Heaven and Earth might one day have a fit of anger, and do something really harmful that they might come to regret they lied and did so many bad things.

As for me and my family, we just don''t believe anything that comes from the mouths of people who hate Israel and the Jewish people. If the Jews and Christians ever disappeared from this world, it would be a bleak, lawless, i
 
Alan   1/22/2009 11:55 PM
223 .  Defense
Why is it that when anyone makes a comment about the dead churches and pastors (and congregations) who sit in their beautiful boxes, some immediately get offended and jump up and down defending their church? A specific church is never mentioned. Why such adamant defenses? Has a nerve been touched?
 
Naomi   1/22/2009 11:27 PM
224 .  hey, that shmuck obama
just said he wants a two state solution in Israel! Wow, I guess that settles it.

This is going to be an interesting few years.


 
captaindawg   1/22/2009 11:19 PM
225 .  Exaggerated Death totals?
Absolutely. Hamas always lies.

 
mickey   1/22/2009 11:12 PM
226 .  i don''t see
any x-xtian heretics on this thread yet (sigh). I thought rebekah did a nice job a few threads back though, don''t ya''ll think?
 
captaindawg   1/22/2009 11:09 PM
227 .  Hi TravelingEddie, I am not a pastor, and
surely not a money grabing one... And even when I was one of them, when the ''sheep will perish'' their blood is not on me, NEVER!

Maybe you like to live in the old Testament mindset en rules and keep the law (''ministry of death'', and ''condemnation'' ans ''it kills''). But my Jesus DID it ALL for me, God is never angry on me, and if you try to believe me that: it is NOT the Gospel.

Jesus WAS cursed, condemned for me, God''s wrath was on Him, once for all (Hebr10:10,14). Thank God for His unspeakable Gift!

But dear brother I know what you mean, keep on fire, and don''t focus on the ''bad'' (because than you are condemning and so on...), think the things thay are above, Fil4:8. Bless you.
 
  1/22/2009 10:58 PM
228 .  Benfox I did not know Darwin
was an Englishman (I always thought made in USA.. sorry haha).

England has brought forth great men and women (many good, sometimes not so)! I more and more respect and love this (former) ''Great'' Britain.

Anyway, if you looked at Darwin''s picture than you SHOULD agree with his belief: that we descended from the apes?

PS ''Glasses from the hard Rock''(?)
 
Bert   1/22/2009 10:43 PM
229 .  Channel Four''s arch Anti Semite John Snow
..is running his usual anti Israel bigotry here: http://blogs.channel4.com/snowblog/2009/01/22/was-truth-the-first-casualty-in-gaza/#more-60
Most of the comments on his article are from UK anti-semites. I tried to reproduce the above article as a comment in response, but have been ignored by the editors of the blog.
How about inundating this anti-Jew''s blog with protests from users of this forum?


 
TC   1/22/2009 10:28 PM
230 .  travelingeddie, Yes their are pastors that are
into religion for profi but, don''t include mine in your diatriabe. He was a full time preacher who drives a Fedx van during the day. He could have had a bigger church and more money after his 5 years of College but, he followed where God lead him and that was to my small church where he couldn''t make enough money to support his family. Its unfair to paint with such a broad brush. It''s going to get worse with the up coming hate crimes bill. Where are you preaching at the mosques? We are all to carry the gospel, not just the pastors. You owe my pastor a apology and ask God for your comdemning words that aren''t true of everyone. God Bless Israel and Born Again Christians and Pastors who care more about the Word then money.
 
BENFOX   1/22/2009 9:58 PM
231 .  "The King is Coming"
Its in the air...cant you feel it...Jesus is coming for a church without spot or wrinkle...Where do you stand????Those of you who say the Lord will delay His return, for you he will come in an hour you least expect...If your Jewish...Please listen, There will never be another Messiah...God allowed such abominations in the sight of G-d like the filthy Roman Catholic abomination, to be a stumbling block to you, until the end times, and bless God many xRoman Catholics are now becoming believers in Jesus...and wouldnt go near that filth...Its the time that the blindness is uplifted up the Lost Sheep of the House of Israel...Jesus is the inheritance of every Jew...Gentiles convert to the Jewish Messiah..Pray this prayer...Dear Jesus I believe and faith that you died for my sins, and according to the scriptures died on a cross, and on the third day you rose from the dead...Come into my heart and forgive me of my sins, and save my soul...In Jesus Name...Amen and Amen...If you prayed that prayer jot me a line...Bless
 
TravelingEddie@Yahoo.com   1/22/2009 9:55 PM
232 .  Where are the Christians?????
Born-Again???? Where are your money grabbing pastors, who will not stand up at mosques around the world and proclaim...Jesus is the Way the Truth and the Life...Mohammed is a false prophet, Your Allah is Satan himself...Repent of sin and turn to the Jewish Messiah, Yeshua (Jesus)...Millions of poor muslims, liberal protestants, and devout demon possesed Roman Catholics, along with the Lost Sheep of Israel will perish, and their blood is upon you...Pastors keep your non-profit status to the world, but I know you as Prophets for profit...You on TV and radio hawk for money continually, live like kings, make your children pastors, so your money stays with your family only...and you quote a scripture...will a man rob G-d...G-d blinded His own who are Jews so you could be grafted into the kingdom, and you fleece the sheep, as you need to go to work, as the tent maker Paul did...Building large cathedrals, when Jesus said, know you not that you are the Temple of G-d, Not a house made with hands...Your real estate hol
 
TravelingEddie@Yahoo.com   1/22/2009 9:38 PM
233 .  usafirst, went to the web site and of course
this comes from a islamist who has issues with Israel. I believe Christine G is right in what she said and is more clearly the truth about the situation. The sourses you use are a matter of hate for Israel and can''t being taken with more then a grain of salt. God Bless Israel, Gods Land and Chosen People. Egypt may have signed a treaty but, they still have their corrupt book to obey and it says they can lie to the infedal, I believe this is the case in point.
 
BENFOX   1/22/2009 9:10 PM
234 .  Double Post
It appears that I need to not refresh the page after I make a post and read it.

Sorry again about the reposts, and will be more careful.
 
USA First   1/22/2009 8:59 PM
235 .  Christine G
My mistake, I thought they were attack because they were thought to have been monitoring the execution of Egyptian Prisoners by the IDF in the Sinai during the "67 war.

http://www.time.com/time/international/1995/951002/middleeast.html

Please accept my humble apology.
 
USA First   1/22/2009 8:57 PM
236 .  Christine G
My mistake, I thought they were attack because they were thought to have been monitoring the execution of Egyptian Prisoners by the IDF in the Sinai during the "67 war.

http://www.time.com/time/international/1995/951002/middleeast.html

Please accept my humble apology.
 
USA First   1/22/2009 8:52 PM
237 .  Hi Bert
''butter on their heads'' I''ve never heard that one, same meaning though. I agree Bert, there will be no apology. Have you visited the ''Honest Reporting'' website? It''s very good.
Britain is now going to have some ''Charles Darwin'' days, to lift him up. Whatever next!
 
Christine G   1/22/2009 8:48 PM
238 .  USA First
USS Liberty was attacked because they were spying on Israel''s movements, passing the info to Britain, who then passed it to the Arabs.
Yes it was swept under the carpet.
 
Christine G   1/22/2009 8:42 PM
239 .  Jim B. your so right, where is this proof of
citizenship? This evil person has to be of the devil or he would be open about such a important issue. Just like John the Baptist was a forerunner for Christ, I believe this person is the forerunner of the anti-christ, he sure has started off on the right foot, closing down gittmo and I hear the next things are to do away with the no tell in the service and make abortion legal all over the US, so much for states rights? God Bless You and Your Family.
 
BENFOX   1/22/2009 8:16 PM
240 .  Your right Bert, Holland in your comments about
the truth. Darwin is buried in Westminster Abbey while one of the Churches First Leaders in England is buried in a parking lot. When in the Abbey a few years ago they asked for silence so they could site the Lords Prayer and they left out one whole section, "Thy kingdom come, thy will be done on earth as is in Heaven" I guess they didn''t want to insult the Queen? My youngest daughter and her husband will be in your country this week end for a short visit. Going for a good purpose they say, to get glasses from the Hard Rock? they have a collection from around the world. Last week they flew to Osaka, Japan for the same reason. God love them and keep them safe.
 
BENFOX   1/22/2009 8:11 PM
241 .  Yes, BENFOX, They had the
USURPER repeat the OATH, But many thousands of americans need to see a valid birth certificate. A birth certificate is a public record and must be produced. Too much secrecy and mystery around this evil man.
 
Jim Borge   1/22/2009 8:07 PM
242 .  these
criminally insane animals of the lowest order ( you guess who I am talking about) are the sons of satan, just as the UNERRANT Word of GOD, thats right GOD said in Daniel, gabriel fought against the ''prince of persia" (satan) in order to deliver GODS message of prophecy to Daniel, in so manner is Israel fighting against the same satan the god of these born liars!!
 
cs   1/22/2009 7:49 PM
243 .  ''With egg on their faces''? Christine I did
not know about this saying (in Holland we say: ''with butter on their heads''?).

Yes, like so often: BUT THAT (corrected) news you will not hear.

I heard e.g. of Charles Darwin on his death-bed he was so sorry he brought hie ''truths'' to the world, he was so sorry for that. And you will not hear this. (like all the nonsense when again an humanly-ape was fond, and afterwards were corrected).

Or did we ever hear that Dr. Spock repented, and was deeply ashamed how wrong his education-theories in the sixties were, and had ''destroyed millions of families''?! AND SO ON.

The lier satan is not fair, he CAN NOT be. His profession and focus is... lying.
 
Bert, Holland   1/22/2009 7:45 PM
244 .  In Gods Economy ~ Israel First ~ Always

 
CmoGrued   1/22/2009 7:43 PM
245 .  Thank God they made obama-nation retake
the oath of office, sure tried to sneak in a oath that he wanted. Won''t matter, he won''t live up to it any how? This man is a man of confustion and the nation wll suffer for his ungodliness. World socialism is right around the corner, the forerunner of the anti-christ? God Bless Israel, she will need it with this satanist in office.
 
BENFOX   1/22/2009 7:38 PM
246 .  Sorry for the double Post
Sorry for the double Post, didn''t think it got sent the first time.
 
USA First   1/22/2009 7:37 PM
247 .  Sorry for the double Post
Sorry for the double Post, didn''t think it got sent the first time.
 
USA First   1/22/2009 7:37 PM
248 .  Sorry for the double Post
Sorry for the double Post, didn''t think it got sent the first time.
 
USA First   1/22/2009 7:36 PM
249 .  Bob Idaho II
What Bob is trying to say is that during the 6 Day War Isreal had started. Isreal had attacked a US Surveillance Ship. Isreal explained was mistaken for a Egyptian freighter or something to that effect (though I have to ask, why attack a non-combat ship in the first place). 34 crewmen were killed,
170 crewmen were wounded aboard the USS Liberty. Official were split in the Johnson administration on whether to believe Isreal, but in the end, it was "swept" under the rug. Do a search on the liberty and especially look at the stories of the people that were actually on that ship and their words. There are many still resent that cover-up.
 
USA First   1/22/2009 7:35 PM
250 .  Bob Idaho II
What Bob is trying to say is that during the 6 Day War Isreal had started. Isreal had attacked a US Surveillance Ship. Isreal explained was mistaken for a Egyptian freighter or something to that effect (though I have to ask, why attack a non-combat ship in the first place). 34 crewmen were killed,
170 crewmen were wounded aboard the USS Liberty. Official were split in the Johnson administration on whether to believe Isreal, but in the end, it was "swept" under the rug. Do a search on the liberty and especially look at the stories of the people that were actually on that ship and their words. There are many still resent that cover-up.
 
USA First   1/22/2009 7:34 PM
251 .  There ARE still politicians left (Geert Wilders)
On 20th dec. ''It''s a privilege for me to be here in this beautiful city Jerusalem, the capitol of the only democracy in the entire Middle East. When I was a teenager I lived some years here in this city and after that I visited Israel more times than I can count. Israel: the only country in the region with a functioning parliament, a rule of law and free elections.

The only country in the region that shares the values of our Western societies, in fact is one of the foundations of our Judeo-Christian identity''.

 
Bert, Holland   1/22/2009 7:32 PM
252 .  bob idaho, another white supremist group who
hate Jews and blacks and see their right arms raised to their god hitler, who was a satanist, just like islam is today. Maybe we should take out these home grown terrorist first but, not going to happen with obama-nation who wants to shut down gitmo within the next year. You will see this satanist declare war on those who can''t fight back, the UNBORN. Yes America, you sold out to satan and his children, here and around the world. God Bless Israel, Gods Land and Chosen People. God help those who love you in the US because we will become the unwanted problem for the leftist here.
 
BENFOX   1/22/2009 7:32 PM
253 .  Idaho known for skinheads...
and Aryian Nation compounds !

Northern !

Not as bad ! Butler & many got ran out of town !

But still a plague, probably returning !

 
CmoGrued   1/22/2009 7:23 PM
254 .  Jim Borge 7.04 PM 110% agree.

 
Bert   1/22/2009 7:21 PM
255 .  Exactly the same was done in Lebanon
The biased media gave out news directly from Hezbollah sources and UN, with vastly inflated death counts and attacks on civilians. When the truth came out they were left with egg on their faces.
Wouldn''t you think they would have learned by now to wait for the truth.
 
Christine G   1/22/2009 7:20 PM
256 .  Unbelievable how truth is neglected
all the time, in the history of the Jews.
''Even'' now, with all these media... or, also: because of these (most atheistic- even anti-theistic) media.

So it must not surprise us: the demonic force behind it. There is only one who Jesus named: the ''father of lies''.

Thank God, we have another Father, That One Who our Lord introduced to us!!! The most beautiful Name of our God? It''s very intimate. Very trustworthy. Very familiair. Thank You Jesus for Your and our Papa - for ever!!!
 
Bert, Holland   1/22/2009 7:17 PM
257 .  Obama''s friends at GITM0 coming to America?
O
 
RAYMOND   1/22/2009 7:14 PM
258 .  Bob Idaho...
has been drinking too much of that potato moonshine. What total drivel he spouts!
 
Art   1/22/2009 7:09 PM
259 .  "we need to keep them accountable...
..to report the truth" In your dreams I''m afraid.
Do you think the anti-semite bigots of BBC, ITV and Channel 4 give a rats nadgers about pro-Israeli truth!!?
Just don''t hold your breath.
 
  1/22/2009 7:08 PM
260 .  HOWEVER, WHAT DOES MAKE SENSE...
is the inflated "casualty" figures the islamists try to get gullible people to believe. Israel tries very hard to keep casualties of noncombatants as low as possible, which is difficult in any war, let alone the fact that ialamists use innocents as human shields. It is frustrating to see Israel fall short of the objective by trying to "please" an evil and fallen world that hates them. Israel will continue to fight the same wars over and over again until they learn the lessons from their earlier years of better leadership and more dependence on God, who longs to fight for them if they would only ask Him!

ISRAEL DEFEAT YOUR ENEMIES COMPLETELY!!
 
Jim Borge   1/22/2009 7:04 PM
261 .  Does CNN Know?
We knew this to start with, but does CNN, BBC, CBS, NBC, ABC?
And, if they did, would they report it? We need to keep them accountable to report the truth.
 
ChristianSupporter   1/22/2009 6:54 PM
262 .  The below comment of 6:13 PM...
did not make a lick of sense. Whenever I have been to Idaho the people seemed quite lucid and sensible. I suppose the exceptions spam this site with their biased hatred.
 
Jim Borge   1/22/2009 6:53 PM
263 .  Gaza''s Toll Shocking
Israel always kills as many Americans etc. as it can possibly add to the war list every time they go to war. Blowing up millions of dollars worth of critically needed supplies in a U.N. warehouse in Gaza for example isn''t new nor was the sinking of our U.S. electronics ship at sea for another. Israel reacts on levels that most people "called allies" find hard to explain.

The misapplication of salvation is an undocumented "thread" in History.
 
Bob Idaho   1/22/2009 6:13 PM
264 .  The truth again, but will anyone listen?

 
Matthew Joseph   1/22/2009 4:06 PM


  
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