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Netanyahu holds fast against patronizing Obama

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu won high marks from most for generally holding his own in Monday’s meeting with US President Barack Obama.

The White House talks were expected to be tense, as both leaders came in with divergent views regarding the creation of a Palestinian state, how to deal with the Iran nuclear crisis, and the linkage between the two issues.

In the post-meeting press conference, Netanyahu maintained his refusal to publicly endorse the establishment of a sovereign Palestinian state, but repeated his long-held view that Israel has no desire to rule over millions of hostile Arabs.

Obama made the difference between his and Netanyahu’s views clear by telling reporters that his government will push hard for the birth of “Palestine,” and urging Netanyahu to grasp hold of this “historic opportunity.”

He also appeared to patronize Netanyahu by saying he knew the Israeli leader would eventually “rise to the occasion.”

In another perceived slight, Obama cooly noted that Netanyahu had been “very vocal in his concerns” regarding Iran, but insisted that he will not put a timetable on what have so far been pointless diplomatic efforts to halt Tehran’s pursuit of nuclear arms.

Obama was most adamant in his refusal to see the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and the Iran nuclear crisis as separate issues. He flatly rejected Netanyahu’s argument that if there is any link at all between the two issues, it is that Israel cannot possibly conclude a final status peace deal with the Palestinians while Iran is building nuclear bombs and emboldening Palestinian terror groups.

“If there is a linkage between Iran and the Israeli-Palestinian peace process, I personally believe it actually runs the other way,” Obama said. “To the extent that we can make peace with the Palestinians - between the Palestinians and the Israelis - then I actually think it strengthens our hand in the international community in dealing with the potential Iranian threat.”

The one point of agreement between the two was Obama’s intention to push more Arab nations to directly join Israeli-Arab peace talks. The president indicated that he will unveil a new regional peace initiative when he visits Cairo next month.

Political spin doctors in both Washington and Jerusalem immediately went to work painting the meeting as a relaxed and friendly encounter, though the substance of what the two leaders told the press bespoke a far different reality beneath the surface.

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[184] COMMENTS:
1 .  Hi Ellie, Edward! Great posts!!
I just received my DVD''s and CD''s of the Epicenter conference. Right now, I am listening to the CD''s in the car going too & from work (it''s about an hour each way) and I am blown away with them. I am looking forward to watching the DVD''s too.
I assume this is what you are talking about? I have read several of Joel''s fiction works and was impressed with how they are actually playing out in the world. I also have his book ''Epicenter'' which I started some time back, but have not had the chance to read a lot of it. I''m always so busy at home. It''s too busy at work to read anything indepth or of a serious nature that demands one''s full attention.

God bless



 
Carol P   5/26/2009 4:23 AM
2 .  Excellents Posts Edward
I have seen Epicenter, and it is an eye opener and its scary too!
Were it not for our Holy Word of the Lord, there would be no hope.
I agree with you on the woman, (the harlot of Babylon''s false religious system ,and the true church''s place in heaven then.)
Many here are seeing the need to pray for Israel and her leaders. and will pray for their redeemption also.
Prayer is our strongest weapon isn''t it? I wonder do we pray enough? We have to be praying!
Thank You and God bless you Edward for some great inspiration.
 
Ellie   5/26/2009 3:07 AM
3 .  JESUS is going to permanently end world conflict,..
as the earth has seen over the past 5000 years, since "the Beginning"!

These are the birth-pangs that are to occur with increasing levels of pain, agony and death on this earth from Revelation chapter 6: 1, through Revelation 18: 24!!!

It is significant to notice that the "True Church" IS NOT MENTIONED in these chapters, as being on earth. The only church that is here on earth during this time is "arrayed in PURPLE and SCARLET color,..decked with gold..." (Rev. 17: 4,5). Question: "What are the common colors of the Roman Catholic Church in the Vatican these days?

The "True Church" was [LAST] addressed in Revelation 4: 1 & 2!!!
 
Edward   5/26/2009 1:09 AM
4 .  We are reminded again, to "pray for the Peace..
of Jerusalem". I pray also for God to redeem these great Jewish men who are striving to "balance the tight-wire" they are on, suspended over the world system that would destroy them and all Jews that live in the land of Israel, at this time.
 
Edward   5/26/2009 12:49 AM
5 .  Having just reviewed "Epicenter" again,..
..Ezekiel 38 and the entrance of Gog of the land of Magog, the demonic energy behind Russia, Iran, Turkey (and many other nations and peoples), is very close at hand.

I am grateful for Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and the wisdom and skill of leadership he offers Israel at this moment. The West doesn''t "get-it", concludes the writer of Epicenter! These are incredibly serious times on the earth..unprecedented times, like never before!!

Obama doesn''t have a clue as to what is going on, just as ALL of those worldly men who are behind "the Road Map for Peace", don''t get-it!!

GOD Almighty is at work here on His earth (Ps. 24: 1)!!! He is allowing the Devil to possess his part of the world stage, for the final world climax leading to the Battle of Armageddon!
 
Edward   5/26/2009 12:40 AM
6 .  11:59PM. GREAT COME BACK.

 
RAYMOND   5/25/2009 6:36 PM
7 .  BENFOX
I tried, but failed to reason with you. I am finished with you. How can anybody reason with you, when D(emon) Kaus constantly spoon feeds you hatred all the time? A believer in Jesus (9:43 PM) is correct. Kaus is only using you. You are a pitiful man.
 
Jim Borge   5/25/2009 2:43 AM
8 .  AMEN Fellow Christians - Kristin Sol and all
You guys have truth on your side.
Your posts are commendable and are light against the darkness of the sowers of strife and the unbelievers in The Whole Word of God!
Stay in Unity and the bonds of Peace!
The gates of Hell will not prevail against the true Church even when the devil utilises those who profess to be chrisitians to undermine it!
 
Terry   5/25/2009 1:14 AM
9 .  Wise words Sol Alpha Jim Ellie and K. Alert!
Your words of wisdom and discernment are edifying to the church and honouring to the Lord.

The unity of those who agree in spirit and in truth is where
The Lord commands the blessing !

As The Word says:
How good and how pleasant it is indeed to agree together in the Lord!
 
Kristin   5/25/2009 12:20 AM
10 .  BENFOX
Exactly when did you admonish David Kaus for attacking Barbara Kay''s salvation? You said you always correct people for this, yet we have not read one word from you admonishing your pal Kaus for that very deed. You say you never lie, so when and where did you correct him?
Until you correct him for loudly and erroniously STATING (not questioning, but STATING) that Barbara is not saved, you are just what you say you are not A LIAR.

 
  5/25/2009 12:14 AM
11 .  BENFOX
Exactly when did you admonish David Kaus for attacking Barbara Kay''s salvation? You said you always correct people for this, yet we have not read one word from you admonishing your pal Kaus for that very deed. You say you never lie, so when and where did you correct him?
Until you correct him for loudly and erroniously STATING (not questioning, but STATING) that Barbara is not saved, you are just what you say you are not A LIAR.

 
  5/25/2009 12:14 AM
12 .  RAYMOND
"2:47AM, YOU FORGET TO VILIFY ME, I''''M HURT.
RAYMOND 5/24/2009 5:05 AM

You weren''t forgotten, just flicked away like the pesky little gnat you are.


 
  5/24/2009 11:59 PM
13 .  Hello Ben
I am praying for you to understand that you are one of the "weapons" that David Kaus is using to help him persecute true believers here.
He is playing on your pride as a man, and building you up for his cause.
He''d you and turn on you in a second if you dared disagree with him.
Just like he did with everyone else who did!

 
A Believer in Jesus.   5/24/2009 9:43 PM
14 .  AMEN SOL!

 
Kaus Alert   5/24/2009 8:18 PM
15 .  KAUS- WILLING TOOL of the DECEIVER
YOU are denyIng the BIBLE itself! The word of faith movement you keep on alluding to along with your other references to heretical groups has NOTHING TO DO WITH THE TEXTS QUOTED FROM EPHESIANS > THAT IS THE PURE WORD OF GOD and you are denying it because it is outside of your limited understanding and no-where in your carnal experience!
You thus accuse The Holy Spirt who inspired The Word of being untruthful about His own ministry !
You Kaus are deceived by the DECEIVER and are UNABLE to discern the TRUTH of GOD from the COUNTERFEIT of SATAN !

 
Kaus Alert   5/24/2009 8:17 PM
16 .  Hello Ben
Again a very sound post that none can gainsay against.

Trying to use Scripture like Ephesians 4, like the poster did below, in an attempt to try to justify a stance and alignment with the false and dangerous Word of "faith'' doctrine, is just twisting Scripture to one''s own destruction.

The poster below tried to use it against those who post the truth of Scripture. Standing for the Truth is not causing division but endeavouring to keep the Body of Jesus Christ in the peace of God, which can only be done by standing for the Faith once delivered to the saints.

The Holy Spirit''s unity is in Truth, not error.

Ironically, Eph 4 is against the poster below because it denounces those who depart from the Truth of Scripture, and fall into apostasy, and thereby cause division. Division against the Truth. There is no unity of the Spirit in error, and never will be.

God Bless, David
 
David E. Kaus   5/24/2009 7:26 PM
17 .  Agreed SOL- AMEN brother!

 
A.D.   5/24/2009 3:01 PM
18 .  Amen! J Borge, Kristin & Ellie
Clearly the malicious slander and deliberate misrepesentation of what has been said by others will continue where the foolish few are concerned .It is my firm view that the have given themselves over to it.Sowing dicord in the Body has become a part of them. Consequently, on a personal level they are best ignored as a waste of time and space. They can say NOTHING beneficial and all their writhing verbal abuse is of NO effect since The Lord covers his People against such malice of the tongue.
Prayer for them YES! unless The Lord says otherwise ..
Fellowship with them without repentance on their part>NO! Scripture directs otherwise.
 
Sol   5/24/2009 3:00 PM
19 .  AMEN JIM BORGE KRISTIN ELLIE et AL

 
  5/24/2009 1:47 PM
20 .  MEN Jim Borge/ Kristin/ Ellie et al re Christan Unity
As all students of God''s Word know The Unity of the Brethen is paramount to the Presence of God among Believers and to His Power operating in the Church.
Ephesians 4
'' Walk worthy of the vocation wherewith you are called
endeavouring to keep the UNITY of THE SPIRIT in the bond of peace''
It is tragic how certain individuals here pour scorn on this Truth.
By their very nature, shown in their always negative and destructive comments, Unity in the Holy Spirit is obviously unknown to them .
Everyone can see who is united in GOD on this forum and who is being used by the enemy of our souls - Hasatan. Those same foolish ones are wilfully driven on a satanic mission to cause constant stife and will twist every posters words to do it.
 
Alpha   5/24/2009 1:45 PM
21 .  continued? stamd. of a human belief, no problem,
I still look for what you dismiss as a obseeion, in scripture? mother force doesn''t man much, just a false doctrine that many might fall for, lost souls, but not important? I never, nor did David or anyone else, so is it important and not nonsense? Yes, that can lead people into being apostate, do you want to stand before God and say "Yes, I believe we should all unite under this love and call it christian"? more power to you, at least I believe you''ll be there, never have questioned that, have I? Do me a favor, don''t attack and yes is it important to explain these doctrines? You know, won''t attack you if your willing to stand by them, your buddy hasn''t, so why do you? I care and have a true love, hope you do also?
 
BENFOX   5/24/2009 9:00 AM
22 .  continued: praying for you and your best
and the same for your family, I don''t judge you, never question your salvation and have told those who do that they are wrong. That makes me un-christian? Wow, then in order to be a believer, I have to agree with what ever is said, never going to happen, I''ll answer to the One who wrote the scripture''s and not those who use it as a club out of context to shut the mouths of those who stand on it. I revealed the context of a email by bert because of what he said, not because I wanted to be devisive but, because what was said is not the truth according to scripture, if you have a problem, its not with me or David, it is a disageement with God. I could take up pages of scripture to dispute your beliefs but, I''m not rebeckah, I don''t paste and cut to make a point. Lets all of us defend what we believe, no attacks, no questioning salvation or personalities, just the truth, not asking for more, not obessed with mother force or alpha course, just want them explained, so that everyone will know where you st
 
BENFOX   5/24/2009 8:51 AM
23 .  Jim B. I respect you but, I don''t know where
you got caught up in this love fest for bert, his own words tell others what he believes and since you protect him, you must protect his doctrine, you said, he dosen''t believe in alpha course? You said it, but havent'' heard him say it, not on the site? Defend his idea of mother force? Let him defend it or reject it, is it important? Yes, both a heresy and un-sound doctrine, why do you get called on to defend this doctrine unless you yourself believe them? Not going to start with me, I answer to God, if? I made a mistake, never will answer to bert or you, is your past getting the better of you? If I slander, rather then attack and accuse, show where I''m wrong, must be easy? No Jim B. I love you enough not to go away with your defense of sound doctrine. Do I love you and your family? Yes, do I disagee? Yes, that doesn''t change your salvation nor my concern for your loved ones? I must be un-christian and a un-believer and I have to agree to assure love? Every night I don''t go to sleep without p
 
BENFOX   5/24/2009 8:35 AM
24 .  I am not asking anybody to agree with me.
I am not asking anybody to agree with Bert. But this slander MUST STOP. And it MUST STOP NOW. Will it begin with you, BENFOX? Can it?
 
Jim Borge   5/24/2009 5:58 AM
25 .  This is why I call your comments "NONSENSE"
"ABSOLUTE NOBSENSE", Ben Fox!
 
Jim Borge   5/24/2009 5:53 AM
26 .  BENFOX, I WILL EXPLAIN YOUR NONSENSE!
#1. There is no "mother force", at least not amongst us. Some months ago, Bert mistakenly wrote "mother Spirit". Somehow this morphed into "mother force" (by those who hate him). To this day he does not remember writing it, or in what context in which it was written. We have all misspoken at times. I know YOU have, BENFOX! Bert is a Born Again believer. Bert believes in God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. PERIOD!

#2. A few months ago Bert went on a missions trip to Germany. As he was sharing, he mentioned that at one of the churches where he spoke, they had this "alpha course" program for the youth. He had nothing to do with it, and to this DAY has no idea what it is all about. It is NOT Bert''s alpha course. Only you and D(emon) Kaus ever mention it. Bert never does. And he never WILL! Bert is a CHILD OF GOD!

This harassment and libelous charges must STOP! It is not appropriate for ANYBODY that names Christ as Savior. All this slander is demonic!

This is why I call your
 
Jim Borge   5/24/2009 5:51 AM
27 .  2:47AM, YOU FORGET TO VILIFY ME, I''M HURT.

 
RAYMOND   5/24/2009 5:05 AM
28 .  Kaus is getting desparate, according to the post
at 1:56am. Everything he has said about Jim B is direct descriptions of HIMSELF.

Anyone can see this is an act of desparation on his part.
Who is it that accuses the bretheren day & night? It sure isn''t Bert, Ellie, BKN, Carol P or Jim Borge on these pages.......it is Kaus & Fox.

 
  5/24/2009 2:47 AM
29 .  Hello Ben and Raymond
Starting to see that Borge is not in his right mind.

No one is above the truth of God''s Word. Once Truth is rejected, there is no connection to a sound mind. That is the condition of Borge now, in fulfillment of Matthew 12: 43 -45

Until there is repentance by Borge, he will continue to get worse, and worse. As we all have noticed, he can not read any post that reveals his condition. Ben, you did a very good job of stating the facts to him below, but Borge does not handle facts very well, nor does Ellie, Bert, BKN, or Carol P. Ellie is particularly sick in her defense of Boge''s lies.

The unity Borge, Ellie, BKN and others speak of has absolutely nothing to do with Biblical unity. The division is caused by people like them who reject sound doctrine for a lie.

God Bless, David

 
David E. Kaus   5/24/2009 1:56 AM
30 .  FOX (7:47, 7:56 & 8:02 AM)!!
WISH I COULD MAKE THOSE LITTLE MUSIC NOTES BECAUSE YOU ARE PLAYING YOUR OWN HORN AGAIN.
You are not even close to being God Benfox. You just think you are Him.
 
  5/23/2009 11:00 PM
31 .  RAYMOND IS A HERETIC, AND A LUNATIC!

 
  5/23/2009 10:53 PM
32 .  What was done
Despite the lies that were told, this is what happened!

http://www.indybay.org:80/newsitems/2009/01/09/18560242.php
 
Jerome   5/23/2009 10:51 PM
33 .  JIM BORGE IS A HERETIC, BUT IS HE A LUNATIC?

 
RAYMOND   5/23/2009 9:53 PM
34 .  Sorry god, didn''t know you were so touchy
Jim B. the best defense is a offense, if it is true or not? Why not just tell people that on the net they can find mother force and its eastern religious idea''s and alpha course the program that brings unity of all religions without concern for sound doctrine and of coarse you believe roman catolics are Born again because they do sign and wonders, that is from the mouth of your leader, the one who converted you to his cause, and that is the truth, not nonsense, if you say it, wear it?
 
BENFOX   5/23/2009 7:53 PM
35 .  NONSENSE FOX (7:47, 7:56 & 8:02 AM)!!
ABSOLUTE NONSENSE!
 
Jim Borge   5/23/2009 8:08 AM
36 .  continued: complementing the ladies, they
just love that, so he has to be a good guy? I have never questioned your salvation, which bert does on almost every post, wish I were a god like him? Are you a fruit inspector, then please start in your own grove and defend these beliefs or deny them as what they are? False doctrine, until then don''t attack those who love Christ and The Gospel unless that is what you mean by true love. Love doesn''t let people believe in that which isn''t Godly and let God decide and not afraid because of my stand for the truth.
 
BENFOX   5/23/2009 8:02 AM
37 .  continued: presented? You attack because
you think bert is god in the flesh, just a complementing good christian, yet his own words speak of a un_Godly thing and you want to defend him and it, saying it''s not important just shows how important it is. Strange, bert doesn''t come on and then you get all these no names and made up names attacking those who are Born Again with nothing but stupid and insane attacks, what happened to bert? You stated you had changed but that was a mistake, is that telling us, you found the truth but, that wasn''t enough so you went back to the feelings and emotions and outward signs as your hope? At least rebeckah is consistent in her terrible beliefs and I can understand that, not sure about you or what you believe and that is on you, not me. Keep us your childish attacks but, don''t explain the truth or you might be found out, attack people instead of doctrine and that speaks for itself. Have never judged your salvation or commitment to Christ but, your leader does it in almost every post unless he is complementin
 
BENFOX   5/23/2009 7:56 AM
38 .  Jim B. when a false doctrine is brought out
it is up to other christians to inform others, if these things are so right, then defend them and don''t hide behind attacks and so called christian love, if your brothers and sisters in Christ don''t believe in these things then why follow someone who brought them up as a part of his mission trip and how do you defend roman catholics are Born Again because they do signs and wonders, not my words or any of our so called group but the leader you adopted, We aren''t devisive, just concerned about anybody who doesn''t discern truth from error. I''m not being used by anybody but God, making a defense of the true faith, you want to follow this doctrine, then support it to other believers and don''t put on a false face of being the only christians on the site. Your leader has attacked my salvation which isn''t here or there to me, he isn''t my judge and neither are you, kristin,sol or Ellie. Were you saved by the Gospel or a religion, by the truth of the Gospel or what you see? Have you even researched what we
 
BENFOX   5/23/2009 7:47 AM
39 .  THAT IS A LIE, D. KAUS (7:18 AM)
We Christians are UNIFIED IN TRUTH. You, Fox, Raymond, Frank and Gloria are UNIFIED IN ERROR! Satan is attempting ti divide the flock through you. I rebuke you all!
 
Jim Borge   5/23/2009 7:36 AM
40 .  BENFOX, It is you and your small group
That are OBSESSED with this "mother force" and "alpha course". My brothers and sisters in Christ do not even think about these things. We in Christ are UNIFIED in Christ. We are unified in Truth. Kristin, Sol and Ellie are correct! Enough of your divisive nonsense. You are being used by the enemy!
 
Jim Borge   5/23/2009 7:31 AM
41 .  Hello Raymond
The unity people like Ellie and kristin speak of has nothing to do with Biblical unity based on the truth of God''s Word. They simply want an emotional attachment to each other they label "love."

The every argumentative Ellie, really hasn''t got a clue about what is going on today in the Church today, even when it is spelled out to her in the simplest terms.

If she and those like her can insist in staying in the obvious deception of Bert, it is a sure indication that their pride has taken them to their present fallen state.

Shalom, David
 
David E. Kaus   5/23/2009 7:18 AM
42 .  Good No Name, good question? But you''ll
get on the wrong side of the clan, unity without doctrine, love without substance, wow, are you in trouble, they''ll put you in with the enemy? God Bless You and Yours:
 
BENFOX   5/23/2009 3:43 AM
43 .  who cares? I don’t post against a person, I
JUst like to toot my own tooter_♫-♪-♫-♪-♫-♪-♫-♪_.
 
  5/23/2009 3:13 AM
44 .  RAYMOND, BRING SOME KY JELLY WHEN YOU COME, HURRY!

 
Barney F.   5/23/2009 2:43 AM
45 .  ELLIE. HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN BENIGHTED???

 
RAYMOND   5/23/2009 12:23 AM
46 .  OBAMA
One
Big
A
Mistake
America

The man is a nut job.
 
RAB   5/22/2009 11:58 PM
47 .  Unity is more important than truth.
Funny, thats what the anti-christ believes too
 
  5/22/2009 11:21 PM
48 .  He''s the man!
He''s the man!

Nobody pushes Obama''s buttons, he stands his ground. No Jew wiill dictate the terms on any more world issues. Finally a man who has the backbone to stand up to the money/power hungry Jews.

Obama will make things right, for all people, not just the crooked Jews.
 
The Messenger!   5/22/2009 8:38 PM
49 .  who cares? I don''t post against a person, I
do question false doctrine, you don''t seem to know the difference or you just don''t care, can''t discern between the two, must be a weak mind trying to express itself??? mother force is a evil spirit and alpha course is totally false teaching, so why would anyone who is a believer want to fall for this unity over doctrine trash? love so called when this false doctrine is shown in the light, if these are good things, just explain them and go on from there? Making a defense of the Gospel over the feel good and emotional experiences is bad to those who want to believe that is better then the Gospel, so they attack to protect their experiences. God Bless Those who believe and were saved by the Gospel:
 
BENFOX   5/22/2009 8:32 PM
50 .  There goes BenFox advertising again.
If anyone wants to know who belongs to the Lord IN TRUTH...just read those names that Kaus and Fox , raymond, gloria, frank, are AGAINST.
 
Who cares?   5/22/2009 5:46 PM
51 .  Raymond, readers can discern!
You can''t.
 
Ellie   5/22/2009 5:09 PM
52 .  RAYMOND SAYS LIES ARE MORE IMPORTANT THAN TRUTH!

 
  5/22/2009 5:08 PM
53 .  KRISTIN SAYS UNITY IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN TRUTH.

 
RAYMOND   5/22/2009 4:33 PM
54 .  Amen Kristin !

All this childish back and forth is a waste of spiritual opportunities to encourage each other and pray for God''s will to be done.
In times past these same folks asked for and received prayers for personal requests.
Now, instead of the need for prayer is the need to win an argument.
Satan wins every time this is done here!
So who gets the Glory?
 
Ellie   5/22/2009 4:02 PM
55 .  sol, mother force, alpha course, your so smart,
explain them? your the name caller, who attacks because you can''t answer, good ploy, but, no truth, keep it up, you show your true nature.
 
BENFOX   5/22/2009 3:10 PM
56 .  A House divided against itself will fall !
'' How good and how pleasant it is when the brethren dwell together
in UNITY!
For it is there that the Lord commands the Blessing''
Wise words AD!
Shalom and blessings to All who desire to dwell together in UNITY !
We need each other !
Believers will need each other more and more as the days grow more evil Satan''s strenghth is in causing division and disunity.
The Word informs us that some brethren will betray others in the evil day. Discernment is necessary in relationships aswell as in other areas. I agree with the posters below who promote UNITY- that it is needful to mark them who are determined to cause division and avoid them so that the blessing of God can rest on those who stand in unity.
 
Kristin   5/22/2009 12:43 PM
57 .  Jerusalem ... soon to become a stumbling block
Netanyahu is a man of strong conviction regarding the sovereignty of Jerusaelm and the security of Israel.
He has a strong united team in the new government apart from the Labour representation .
Pray that this rebellious section of the government will change its attitude and stand firmly in agreement with Netanyahu and the rest of the Government!
 
Kristin   5/22/2009 12:31 PM
58 .  Amen AD et al.. Time to Watch and Pray !

 
Sol   5/22/2009 12:21 PM
59 .  Evidence of an evil stronghold...
is apparent in the similarity of the posts of Benfox to those of David Kaus and CmoGrued -
and their few ''so called friends''.
Such evidence includes the seriously habitual nature of their ever accusing provoking remarks and derogatory insults persistently directed at other believers
and also the daily mocking denial of God''s Truth regarding the operation of the Gifts and Ministries of The Holy Spirit.
 
Sol   5/22/2009 12:19 PM
60 .  LOVE FOR THE DAY IS NEAR !

 
  5/22/2009 10:09 AM
61 .  Love, fort he Day Is Near
Let no debt remain outstanding, except the continuing debt to love one another, for he who loves his fellow-man has fulfilled the law. The commandments, “Do not commit adultery,” “Do not murder,” “Do not steal,” “Do not covet,” and whatever other commandment there may be, are summed up in this one rule:

“Love your neighbour as yourself.”

Love DOES NOT harm to its neighbour.

Therefore love is the fulfilment of the law. (Romans 13.8-14).

 
Melody   5/22/2009 10:06 AM
62 .  I also agree with Jim Borge

 
Melody   5/22/2009 9:40 AM
63 .  The Truth, A.D.5/21/2009 8:09 PM!Thank you.

 
Melody   5/22/2009 9:37 AM
64 .  No, val
Benfox and the Kaus Kabal have no such "rights". Scroll down to the bottom of the page and click on "terms of use". Anyone who uses a "communication service" such as the Israel Today comment section agree not to defame, abuse, harass, stalk others using this service. For many months now Kaus, Fox, Frank and others have been in violation by harassing Bert, Barbara Kay, Ellie, Carol P, myself and others. Have you read these vile comments from this group repeatedly? Is this Christian behavior? Should it be tolerated? No, this hateful behavior must be opposed! These people have no "right" to harass anybody here.
 
Jim Borge   5/22/2009 9:27 AM
65 .  Hello Ben (cont)

What a delusional world she lives in, and all done supposedly in the name of Jesus Christ.

God Bless, David
 
David E. Kaus   5/22/2009 6:40 AM
66 .  Hello Ben
It is both encouraging, and edifying to see your stand for the Truth of Scripture, and I enjoy your fellowship in the Gospel, and discernment of God''s Word.

How pathetic people like Ellie, and others are in their delusion and lack of discernment, and hate of the Truth.

We (You, I, FRANK, Gloria, CmoGrued, RAymond, etc) have documented so much about the Word of "faith" movement, and Bert''s and Bore''s lies, that it is about to the point of being laughable, that anyone would try to post that we are only name calling, or we post what we do and call it Truth as an excuse to defend the Faith once delivered to the Saints, and take a stand on God''s Word.

It is quite evident that Ellie, is very hypocritical, and allows what she calls name calling by us, by Bert in almost all of his post where he tries to defend his error in a carnal real name calling way, without any Scriptural substance, or documented facts.

What a delusional world she lives in, and all done supposedly in the name
 
David E. Kaus   5/22/2009 6:38 AM
67 .  i read benfox''s input
and he has all the right to this site like anyone else (even fforen), it is not for you to decide that!? you know the Truth so nothing should detour you.
 
val   5/22/2009 6:02 AM
68 .  lol, your the one that is un-christian, you won''t
use your own name, so you can call names and get away with it, bert!!! and if not you sure sound like the leader of the clan, must have something to hide and that isn''t truth or christian. so speak for yourself, what is mother force and alpha course, you believe in it, so explain it, unity for the sake of unity is a sign of the end time church and it''s false teachers so keep up your babel,
 
BENFOX   5/22/2009 3:20 AM
69 .  lol, I have no creditability with you and your
clan, because you can''t stand truth, just your false religious lies that you won''t answer for.
 
BENFOX   5/22/2009 3:16 AM
70 .  angel, for who, back at you and your false name!!!

 
BENFOX   5/22/2009 3:14 AM
71 .  lol, what a joke, your as bad as oren, only you
attack the Body, that''s right you judge the heart and know who is saved and not and since those who preach the truth about mother force and alpha course they can''t be saved, we special christians are the only ones with the truth, like the JW''s, mormon''s, roman catholics and I''m sure the islamist next. Disagree with the clan and your judged, can''t stand questions about false doctrines so attack but all in the name of love, just a word when you call names and hikde behind false names, judging salvatoin and that''s your love, What happened to the Gospel or isn''t that a part of your unity religious movement, don''t read my post, I read yours to see how many people follow blindly?
 
BENFOX   5/22/2009 3:13 AM
72 .  Amen !Angel, Dave, AD, Ellie, Maintain Unity!
& cast off the trouble makers while they persist in their ugly unchristian conduct.. which appears to be entrenched in their mindset.. ugly indeed!
I doubt many people read their posts much any more.
Personally I just skim over them .. if at all !
I cant abide the ugly monotonous diatribe!
 
LOL   5/22/2009 12:27 AM
73 .  The little Benfox that spoils the vines
BEN FOX! You evidently know NOTHING of any value yet never stop trying to impose your ignorance on every soundly scriptural post !
You''re a spirtually deprived person !
along with your fellow conspirators who can''t resist causing strife on every page. It is plain to observe that NOT one of you has any idea of the importance of Unity among believers or of the Power of God associated with His praying People. You are best ignored and left behind while others move on in Godly fellowship. You are deserving of strong REBUKE for your persistent provocations to discord !
Your wilfully divisive trio will reap the shame of your conduct for sure!

AMEN! Dave/ AD/ Ellie !!!

 
Angel   5/22/2009 12:18 AM
74 .  Who cares what you think Ben fox ? !
You have NO credibility on this forum except with your few foolishly like minded ''friends'' who have also forfeited their credibility!
 
LOL!!   5/21/2009 11:59 PM
75 .  continued from 8:42 We support a full time
pastor who worked a regular job until we payed off the church a few years ago. Have seen family members saved and going to this church, seen JW''s lead to the Lord who now go to this church, didn''t need anything but the truth of the Word of God, wow, that can''t be this new movement. God Bless those who believe the Gospel still saves with out other manifestation:
 
BENFOX   5/21/2009 9:07 PM
76 .  title below should be shouldn''t !!!

 
BENFOX   5/21/2009 8:43 PM
77 .  I know I should post to you David E. Kaus,
you will be accused of being my leader and you and both know that isn''t true, I have one leader and Him only, God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit but that won''t matter, so hung up on this new spirit movement, they can''t see that if a person is a fruit inspector, then they should be judged by their own words. Use the OT to apply to this new movement, not new? started about the early 1900''s felt good and special and has picked up speed over the years, Look at their leaders, they fall like trees, they are proved to be wrong many times yet, it feels good so it must be the holy spirit? Go to a small believing Bible teaching church, must be dead according to some? No power, just church, yet I have seen people healed threw the power of prayer by men of God, James 5:14, seen people saved by the Gospel, that convicts of sin and the need of a Savior, see a church of a few, like where I have gone for over 20 years support missionaries all over the world and have payed for our church and support a
 
BENFOX   5/21/2009 8:42 PM
78 .  I applaud those who stand for Gods People
and Land and PRAY for the peace of Jerusalem as told to do in the scripture. I do have a problem with using new age terms to get God to react? I also disagree with those who think they are Jews but are not? I don''t think God called out special Christians and groups that think they have a power no other inferior Christian has? Those Christians who believe in the Gospel as preached by Paul, The Gospel that saves by grace, through faith, if that is un-Chirstian, then I need to throw Gods Word away and unite with Special Christians who think they are the one and only church. Don''t point this out, your deviseive, they judge the heart along with all the other special gifts, they can even channel God at there believe and unite the spirit? There leader tells them go and they go, Wow, real special?
 
BENFOX   5/21/2009 8:29 PM
79 .  I wholly agree ! Dave / Ellie UNITED WE STAND!
Time is short. Christians who support Israel are in the minority and we need to be united for such a time as this!
It only takes ''a few'' who are united in spirit and in truth before The Lord to break through into the heavenly realms and channel the Power of God into the situation.
God is establishing small groups and moving among them as in the early Church!
Let every man and woman of God take up his/ her position in Christ and prepare to STAND as Ambassadors of the KING and Overcomers of the Enemy.
Leave the quarrellers behind .
We have no time to play childish games . We much need to keep focussed on the things of God and not waylaid by satanic snares !
God looks for men or women who will obey HIM....
''If My People which are called
by MY NAME
shall humble themselves and pray
and seek MY FACE
and turn from their wicked ways
THEN will I hear from Heaven
And will forgive their sin
And will heal their Land''
2 CHRONICLES 7:14

 
A.D.   5/21/2009 8:09 PM
80 .  In the title below the word should be wouldn''t!!!

 
BENFOX   5/21/2009 7:21 PM
81 .  Did anyone notice that obama, would look
Netanyahu once while he was talking too and about him? This man is a deciever and I believe was put in place by God or allowed to gain this office for the time of judging a nation that glories in homo-sexual conduct, murdered 52 million babies and thinks very little of marriage beween one man and one women. Have heard Washington State wants to let people have sex with animals next? I guess they have forgotten Lev. chapter 18 and what God would judge a nation for? God Bless Israel, Gods Land (all of it) HIs Chosen People and Born Again Christians, saved by the truth of Gods Word, The Gospel:
 
BENFOX   5/21/2009 7:20 PM
82 .  Obama''s Telepromter
He''s just like Bush. The jews write every word he speaks.
 
  5/21/2009 5:50 PM
83 .  Hello David D.
I agree with every word you stated. Lately, I have been convicted of the needs you spoke of about uniting in prayer and fasting in the body of Christ.
You know, those believers who support and pray for Israel are a minority, but I believe we have been "called out" to bless and pray for Israel, and we know time is short for doing so.
Instead of doing just that, we see childish bickering and name calling which has led to divisiveness in the body of Christ as you stated.

I denounce any excuse that those who do so, are "defending" the truth.

Defend the truth by Being an Example of one who has received "unmerited grace "in his own life, and extend that grace to others!!
That is true service to Christ.

Thank you very much David for pointing out the real business we are to be about. May God bless you and give you strength for the days.
Keep looking up, our Redeemption is Nigh!
 
Ellie   5/21/2009 4:50 PM
84 .  Amen Ellie It is a time for Prayer and Fasting to prevail
There is an intense battle going on in the unseen spiritual realms right now as the end time approaches with increasing speed!
It is a time for Israel aware believers to stand united and effectively employ the weapons of our warfare with informed prayer & fasting and declaring the Word of God over the satanic strongholds that would seek to divide Israel with a view to its destuction .
Destructive strongholds of evil are also seeking entrance into the Church with increasing urgency so as to weaken the Body of Christ as satan''s end time agenda comes into play ! Stand United People of God !We wrestle not with flesh and blood !
Those who continually indulge in divisive behaviour need to realise just who they are serving and put a STOP to it!
 
Dave D.   5/21/2009 4:16 PM
85 .  To Hans Slobbe, Vonnie, Mary
Yes, you all stated what many have noticed.
I don''t know where all of you are, but here in the states, when they aired the press conference between Netanyahu and Obama (the little photo session for the press) those here saw an Obama who would not look at Netanyahu, but spoke looking down and about!
How rude!!
In contrast, Netanyahu looked directly at Obama the entire time Obama was speaking about him.
Netanyahu is open, and confident whereas Obama seemed to be pausing for word search!
When he is without notes, and teleprompter, and must speak off the top of his head, he is so careful!
Everything about him seems programmed.
 
Ellie   5/21/2009 4:09 PM
86 .  For those with direct tv
Today''s news report from Israel is very informative on the recent visit by Netanyahu in US, and the political views by Israel as well. You can get this daily program on CH 367, World Harvest Television''s broadcast. It airs at 8:30 Am and repeats at 6PM Eastern Time.
Dividing Jerusalem, Stopping settlements, Peace talks, all coming to the table with strong handed political pressure from the US.
As the saying goes "We haven''t seen "nothing yet" of what is bound to come. Pray for The people in Israel.
Pray for the Christians in the US.
 
Ellie   5/21/2009 3:53 PM
87 .  Obama''s Telepromter
I don''t know why so many think he is a good Speaker, he practically can''t speak without someone else''s words. I also would sure like to know who is on that Blackberry of his !

That was a good one Vonnie ! I don''t believe he is an American at all.
 
Mary W   5/21/2009 8:22 AM
88 .  true colors
Obama seems to only be able to speak fluently when he is speaking about the muslems... I noticed he said he''d been to 57 states too....That seemed to just fall out of his mouth naturally didn''t it? hmm... let''s see where are there 57 states? Maybe... the 57 state Islamic confederation?
 
vonnie   5/21/2009 5:48 AM
89 .  Obama versus Israel
Of course, Obama is anti-Israel. I guess I can safely say we all knew it, including the anti-Jewish crowd. There is alraedy a Palesinian state, called Jordan, so why another one? The arabs see a Palestinian state as a step in the destruction of Israel. Obama knows that very well. Ever looked at Obama giving a speech? He looks to the right, he looks to the left, but he never looks into the camera. Afraid we will see his eyes? And what he really means while saying something different? Who trusts this man?
 
Hans Slobbe   5/21/2009 5:40 AM
90 .  Thanks Ellie
I will google these things!!!

I rarely have the opportunity to listen to Hannity. I pretty much have to hae worked as 12 hour day and can listen on my way home, but I work eves and day/eve doubles, so he is not on at the times I am driving. I don''t watch him on TV much either. Again, the timing is wrong for me. I do like much of what he has to say when I do get the opportunity, though.

God bless!

 
Carol P   5/21/2009 4:28 AM
91 .  DOWN WITH JUDISM!!!

 
  5/21/2009 3:30 AM
92 .  http://www.prophetofdoom.net/

 
  5/21/2009 3:03 AM
93 .  DOWN WITH ISLAM!!!
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/index.html#Attacks
 
  5/21/2009 2:58 AM
94 .  We are the destroyers!
We jews, we are the destroyers and will remain the destroyers. Nothing you can do will meet our demands and needs. WE WILL FOREVER DESTROY because we want a world of our own.
(Maurice Samuel, Zionist author, ‘You Gentiles’, p. 155).

 
Maurice   5/20/2009 11:09 PM
95 .  Oval office picture Carol
Just do a google search with "World press Obama used tough love."
(This is an article regarding the visit at the white house) then read the Arutz sheva article on Netanyahu and Obama meeting in the oval office. Scroll down to the picture of the oval office.
Notice standing in the front of the President''s desk, is Rahm Emanuel, who looks like a parent waiting for a late child to come in the door.
His focus is on Mr. Netanyahu entering the room.
 
Ellie   5/20/2009 8:53 PM
96 .  Obama is a Judgement from The LORD...
to the apostate & back-sliden churches in America following after other gods (demons). This nation had godly principles at one time, and believed the 10 Commandments. The LORD G-D of Israel Wrote those Commandments with HIS Own Finger. The blood of 3,000 babys every day cry out to Almighty G-D, Abel was the first! America is demanding Israel to give up more more of HIS Land! The Gospel of G-D''s Word is no longer believed! And the ones that love this evil world have ALREADY taken the mark because of the condition of their own hart. The Great Tribulatin has to come to get rid of the trash,before The Day of The LORD comes (Wrath). Those that ARE HIS will not be here for that...the Faithful (Doctrine is all about Yeshua, The Priest and KING of The New Jerusalem to Come)will be Returning Back with HIM on that Day! By G-D''s Grace I Pray to be among that Remnant! "Wake UP"
 
Gloria   5/20/2009 6:54 PM
97 .  Sentence unfinished
" It''s politicis manipulated for global government, which we know is coming."
As the economy here goes south, we see more and more government control with regulations.
We know where its leading.
 
Ellie   5/20/2009 6:20 PM
98 .  Hi Carol
Remember who Obama''s chief of staff is?
Ironically, an orthodox practicing Jew, Rahm Imanuel. Imanuel was also in the Clinton Administration and became later a senator (If memory serves correctly), and he and Obama became good friends over the years in the senate.

He, Imaunel strikes me as being of the mindset of Olmert, willing to push for concessions for a percieived peace, and he fights dirty!


If you ever listen to Sean Hannity, he refers to Immanuel as "dead fish" Immanuel. There is a reason for that!

Politics is the means to achieve this false peace, and we know by scripture it will happen.
That''s why I called it round one.

From what I have read, the meeting in private was nothing like the televised press exchange. We didn''t get to see the real Round One in which apparent conflict was affecting body language!

Netanyahu is against a tremendous push back. We simply have to pray for Israel, as Dawn expressed. It politics manipulated for global governmen
 
Ellie   5/20/2009 6:11 PM
99 .  Obama got his marching orders from the warmongers

 
  5/20/2009 4:42 PM
100 .  Good Video Dawn
Read closely and see how how one of the commanders clearly states "WE HAVE SUFFICIENT MEANS AND NECESSARY FORCE TO DEFEND OUR TERRITORY" notice the word DEFEND, not strike. It is CLEAR that Iran will not have to use their weapons and DEFEND if Israel does not strike. Very simple, just like any other civilized country in the world they are not trying to start a war but if pulled into one they will DEFEND themselves.

 
Oren   5/20/2009 4:40 PM
101 .  obama
every christain should know that obama is an agent of the anti-christ, so he is saying what his master the devil ministered to him. but whatever the case may be Israel cannot give up, because the God of Israel does sleep nor slumber, He is watching and He has already taking control of every thing which no human eyes can see.

Israel just keep on praying don''t give up. that land is your promise land and no man, i repeat no man can take it away from you.

be still and know that I am God says the Lord of Host.

shalom.
 
oby   5/20/2009 12:56 PM
102 .  The course is already set, nothing we can do but pray:
Joshua 9, God''s promise to Israel

Joshua
9:3... territory of the five Philistine rulers of Gaza, Ashdod, Ashkelon, Gath, and Ekron.

9:6... “I myself will drive these people out of the land ahead of the Israelites. So be sure to give this land to Israel as a special possession

Who can go against God? Obama does not fear God, as he already called the Sermon on the Mount "radical".
I think Obama is a Muslim infiltrate, set up to destroy America to get rid of Israel''s strongest ally.
This is why Jesus said many will suffer in His name, b/c Obama is going to ruin our nation.
Obama said in his Inaugural speech, "We are no longer just a Christian nation". Why did he have to say that, b/c we were built on the freedom of ALL religions, was that secret code to his Muslim croanies?
 
Dawn   5/20/2009 6:59 AM
103 .  OBAMAnation of desolation

 
  5/20/2009 6:55 AM
104 .  what do we expext from a plastic donkey in the white house?

 
  5/20/2009 6:53 AM
105 .  Obama
It is interesting to watch how a man like this how talks about the slavery "his" people came out of . And He is the one that is bringing everyone under Slavery again. I guess he calls it his gift. What a truly evil man.He has no experience in foreign affairs and talks like a moron. Wake up America your President is a type of Antichrist.
 
cw   5/20/2009 6:44 AM
106 .  FF, you''re crack head anyhow, full of it
empty
 
  5/20/2009 6:33 AM
107 .  Israel''s CRACKING UP!
"I don''t think it''s funny no more cracking up
I don''t think it''s funny no more cracking up

The dead of nighttime the crack of dawn
It comes upon me without warning
If I were a gun then I would shoot
I tear the head out by the root
I''d make a knife out of an ocean
All that sea in an ocean of emotion

I don''t think it''s funny no more cracking up
I don''t think it''s funny no more cracking up
I don''t think it''s funny no more cracking up
I don''t think it''s funny no more
I don''t think it''s funny no more
I don''t think it''s funny no more"

 
FF   5/20/2009 6:30 AM
108 .  Israel''s CRACKING UP!
"Cracking up getting ready to go
Had enough I can''t take any more
No pills that I can take
This is too real and there ain''t no escape

It scares the daylight making nightmares
I''m chancing I''m nervous
And everybody''s all around me
Shaking hands and saying howdy

I don''t think it''s funny no more cracking up

Cracking up like a worn out shoe
I ain''t wet but the world leaking through
I''d run but I''d find no place
I''d laugh but it''s wrecking me
Make you shiver make you shake
Make a monster just like an earthquake
Everybody''s having fun
I don''t know how they can carry on"

 
FF   5/20/2009 6:25 AM
109 .  Hello Frank, Gloria, Ben
These are some dramatic times for both Israel and the Church.

Both are under attack from within and without.

Both have people who believe a lie in the face of documented truth, and continue in this manner with the reality of continual lies staring them in the face.

And in the case of both Israel and the Church, those given to love and make a lie, will soon be overtaken with sore amazement.

As for Israel, where will the breaking point come when she realizes that she must take preemptive measures against the surrounding Arab nations, no matter what anyone else thinks ?

Her survival depends on it now more than ever.

God Bless, David


 
David E. Kaus   5/20/2009 6:01 AM
110 .  God Likes To Speak One On One?
He never seems to talk to multiples?
It''s always, person to person?You "must believe, a book that is a copy of a copy of a copies?Everybody believe in U.F.O.s, you know?
Correct me if I''m wrong, but I can''t recall an event in the bible where God spoke to two,three or more persons(- adam&eve)?I''m not talking about miracles or deeds,I mean, strictly verbal communication. God speaks to man, but not "men"?
Surely God don''t need a public announcement system,why don''t he just yell, so a couple of nations can hear him? It would save a lot of souls,quick! More people would follow the sun?
 
FF   5/20/2009 6:01 AM
111 .  Thank G-d
Thank G-d Israel elected a warrior!!
 
jbennett   5/20/2009 6:00 AM
112 .  Obama will decieve Netanyhu like Joshua was in
Joshua 9:1-6
1 Now all the kings west of the Jordan River heard about what had happened. These were the kings of the Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites, and Jebusites, who lived in the hill country, in the western foothills,[a] and along the coast of the Mediterranean Sea[b] as far north as the Lebanon mountains. 2 These kings combined their armies to fight as one against Joshua and the Israelites.

3 But when the people of Gibeon heard what Joshua had done to Jericho and Ai, 4 they resorted to deception to save themselves. They sent ambassadors to Joshua, loading their donkeys with weathered saddlebags and old, patched wineskins. 5 They put on worn-out, patched sandals and ragged clothes. And the bread they took with them was dry and moldy. 6 When they arrived at the camp of Israel at Gilgal, they told Joshua and the men of Israel, “We have come from a distant land to ask you to make a peace treaty with us.”
 
Dawn   5/20/2009 5:10 AM
113 .  Way to go Bibi
Keep on keeping on Israel. G-d is with you!
 
suzanneu   5/20/2009 5:09 AM
114 .  Dictator Obama
BiBi most not let his guard down on this man. Underneath that veil is a Muslim. More and more Americam people are waking up to what they voted into office. They haven''t yet come out and named him, put I''m sure it is coming. The last 3 mo. have had me on edge about him and it was the daily speeches by him that made me come to my conclusion. Stay on guard on him. He speak''s out of both sides of this mouth.
 
Barbara   5/20/2009 4:56 AM
115 .  Obama is
pretending to be the great peacemaker, and this in itself is an offence to the only true peacemaker. His motivation for this is only known by himself, a few inside colaboraters, and, of course, Almighty God. However, he will surely come to his end, in due course because of this. The sad part of this is the fact that he is leading our beloved nation to hell with his stupid, evil ambitions.
 
Albert in NC   5/20/2009 4:39 AM
116 .  Hello Ellie
I don''t know that it is that Obama doesn''t get it, or that he chooses not to get it!! I truly believe that Obama is a muslim, and as such, he will be anti-Israel and will back any attacks against them. He gave lip service with Israel fought back a couple of months ago, but it was only lip service.

But i wonder how much it really matters in the long run? We are at the end of this age, and all these things must happen in order to bring about the coming one world government headed by the antichrist.
Of course we don''t WANT there to be war in Israel, and we don''t want Iran to have nukes, but we do have our Bibles, and it is a road map of what is to come about.

I know most of us would have prefered that all this did not happen in our generation,but it looks as though we are the generation chosen for the final events.

The Lord will be with us every step of the way, and He will be with Israel.

God bless

 
Carol P   5/20/2009 4:33 AM
117 .  Benfox
I don''t know anything about Ben but I do know that God totally wiped out the tribe of Esau. There is not one from his bloodline left.
 
imtoast   5/20/2009 4:25 AM
118 .  Benfox
I don''t know anything about Ben but I do know that God totally wiped out the tribe of Esau. There is not one from his bloodline left.
 
imtoast   5/20/2009 4:25 AM
119 .  Benfox
I don''t know anything about Ben but I do know that God totally wiped out the tribe of Esau. There is not one from his bloodline left.
 
imtoast   5/20/2009 4:21 AM
120 .  And as we pray, believe in the Holiness
of God.
And as we asked forgiveness for our wrongs, we are to asked God to forgive those who do wrong against us.

 
Ellie   5/20/2009 4:09 AM
121 .  Hello Bert, and friends
I was encouraged by the article I referred to about Netanyahu''s view of Amalek. (grandson of Esau), and the first to attack Israel after the Exodus.

Admadinejad hopes to be one to finally destroy Israel!

Had King Saul destroyed them all as God commanded, Israel wouldn''t be dealing with them today.

Queen Esther would not have dealt with them when Haman tried to wipe them out.

Netanyahu knows the Jewish History. He clearly understands Iran''s goal to wipe Israel out.
The world doesn''t have enough carrots to dangle before Admadinejab.
He intends to cause the calamity that will bring in his false messiah!
Obama doesn''t get it!! Ita a religous zeal from satan.
Sanctions are just "carrots" for doing nothing. We can only Pray!
 
Ellie   5/20/2009 3:52 AM
122 .  to all who follow this preacher, I really don''t
care what you think, can take your stones and words, don''t follow a man, most of all the one you have to protect in all your post. Either he is right and God is wrong, He is calling the people of Israel, not the church, just believe what you want and that is faith, examine yourselfs, then no one can accuse you. Did you get saved by another Gospel? Another Jesus? Another blood? Then why do you need more? What your other prophet says is there is another way, you have to answer that, more then Jesus? more then being saved by grace, through faith? Then Paul preached the wrong Gospel and has to repent, he said you are accursed if you preach any other Gospel and Gods Word said don''t ADD to or take away from, did you get saved by the Gospel or your feelings and outward sign''s? Just asking and hope you ask yourseleves? I know h ow I got saved, went looking for something that turned me on, all false, all fake, so I returne t o what saved me. Your decision, will never question your salvation, don''t judge
 
BENFOX   5/20/2009 3:51 AM
123 .  bert, stop hiding, you can come out of the
closet, other then judging the heart and your proof by signs and wonders and your pride, believers know, don''t have to hide behind no names to cut down believer''s be yourself, the mother force guy, the alpha course guy, we know, you don''t need to hide to expouse you beliefs, anyone with a biblical mind knows where your coming from. roman catholic''s that are believer''s, why? they do sign''s and wonders, I was and am not, so you judge my heart? what a joke, thank God I get judged by Him and no t your false teachings, hope that school in London makes you feel good, not many christians left there but, I''m sure you''ll make them feel good and believe without the Gospel. You do know that someday you will stand before Jesus and say "did I not cast out demon''s" and other things in your name, what did He say, preach your feel good and what people want to hear and see if your so smug in His judgement?
 
BENFOX   5/20/2009 3:39 AM
124 .  Iran says it can wipe Israel out in 11 days
2 min / 4 sec clip. Iran''s Military General says it can wipe Israel out of existence in just 11 days
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCfj_eB5w5s

 
Dawn   5/20/2009 3:35 AM
125 .  The leaders of nations......
are in those positions because it pleases the Lord to have it so....according to HIS Will. In the Old Test., the Lord speaks through the prophet...." I have raised up great Babylon for MY Purpose, as the instrument of my instruction and correction......"
So it is with ALL THINGS!!!!!

ACCORDING TO THE WILL OF GOD. and not any other ''thing''.
These events and the people who are involved and prominent in them, are all according to the Word of the Lord, and serve HIS purpose, as well as verifying HIS most Holy and awesome Being. These are not matters for ''light'' discussion and diverse opinion, but we are well warned and encouraged .....to strengthen ourselves IN the LORD.
We do not need to ''know what part we are to play''...in this.....we are only to know WHOM we Serve!
And to Believe and serve in OBEDIENCE.

 
ted   5/20/2009 3:23 AM
126 .  What really went on...
FRIENDLESS PERSUASION - BARAK MEETS BIBI
by Barry Chamish

Here is a short overview of the Netanyahu-Obama press conference from someone who has attended other such rigged Presidential events in Israel.
http://yitzhakrabin.blogspot.com/2009/05/friendless-persuasion-barak-meets-bibi.html
 
David Ben-Ariel   5/20/2009 2:08 AM
127 .  You BENFOX, a doggy of Bert,
are you trying to boast the year coming?
Thats what it sounds like?

I''m glad for Bert it''s an honour, he is mature,
to be persecuted by the evil.
What will YOU say, how would YOU react Benfox,
The coming year, a brother accusing you day and night wrongly,
as YOU did the last year?
An astonished sister


 
astonished sister   5/20/2009 1:43 AM
128 .  You BENFOX, a doggy of Bert,
are you trying to boast the year coming?
Thats what it sounds like?

I''m glad for Bert it''s an honour, he is mature,
to be persecuted by the evil.
What will YOU say, how would YOU react Benfox,
The coming year, a brother accusing you day and night wrongly,
as YOU did the last year?
An astonished sister


 
astonished sister   5/20/2009 1:43 AM
129 .  Netanyahu hold fast
God bless Israel''s Prime Minister and know all Americans do not support Obama''s satanic logic. He is not only Israel''s enemy but America''s too.
God bless Israel!!!!
 
carolyn   5/20/2009 1:35 AM
130 .  sorry, post at 1:34 was mine.

 
Carol P   5/20/2009 1:35 AM
131 .  I agree, Jim Ellie, Barbara, Brenda, others
Obama has overstepped his bounds, thinking he can go to Israel and force them to do his bidding. Why wouldn''t BiBi be ''very vocal'' in his concerns over a renegade Iranian gov. whose blatantly open goal is the destruction of Israel??
May Netanyahu continue in his strength to stand up to this illegal, immoral, poor excuse for a president ''we the people'' will be SORRY they ever elected.

God bless
(wanted to say ''baboonn in a business suit'', but didn''t want to offend baboons.)

 
  5/20/2009 1:34 AM
132 .  SATANAHU TELLS OBAMA WHEN TO BREATH

 
  5/20/2009 1:17 AM
133 .  Holding fast
Kudos to Israeli President Netanyahu for hoding fast with his position regarding a Palestinian state and Iran''s nuclear intentions. I love my country, but we MUST stand beside Israel, NOT against her!
 
Thomas W   5/20/2009 12:10 AM
134 .  The big leader
Netanyhau have save Israels name.I am very proud vith his attitude against Obamas talk aboat a palistines stat.How can a friend allow Iran and say its ok vith theys nuclearprogram and dont listen vhy Israel is very worry aboat that.I have praid for this meeting and God have give me a answer .And iam happy for Israel and theys goverment and for my self too.
 
Göran Holmén   5/20/2009 12:02 AM
135 .  Barbara Kay has a point when she says:
Netanyahu, so far, has demonstrated a strength and continuity of thought that makes him the man of the hour.

The people of Israel elected him (the Hawk) because he is the man of the hour that they seek, because they know the Hawk will not give in, but will fight for Israel. Netanyhu knows this, he might be deceived by Obama''s peace tactics but he will still prevail, because it is God''s promise to Israel.
 
Dawn   5/19/2009 11:53 PM
136 .  holds fast
Way to go Prime Minister Netanyahu on holding your ground, Israel is always in my prayers, this is to let everyone know in Israel that we did not all vote for Obama and I am Catholic. I have read the Bible so don''t let the land go, don''t give it up.

 
Dorothy   5/19/2009 11:38 PM
137 .  Frank my friend, you know you will see the
wrath of those who want to follow the false messiah and his message of unity, without sound doctrine, love without name calling and questioning your salvation, what kind of love is that? I guess 1 Corn 13 is good unless someone disagrees with your new age idea''s that you want to convert people to, isn''t that the love chapter? Frank, stand on Gods Word as you do, you will be reviled by the false teachers but, your reward is in heaven not in what they think of you and Sound Doctrine. God Bless Those, like yourself, you don''t need name it and claim it and that makes you un-popular, if your in that group, then you are right, we don''t need a leader, we have one, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit who we recieved when we were Born Again, Bless You and Yours:
 
BENFOX   5/19/2009 11:15 PM
138 .  bob clark, I don''t want to be disagreeable but,
I think the Bible says they will believe it is a time of peace and then distruction comes quickly. I do believe that peace is false and I think they will stand alone except for their God, which is most important, He never loses and has never been wrong, I''m sure you agree? God Bless Israel, Israels God, His Land (all of it) and His chosen People the Jews, not arabs that don''t believe. And True Born Again Believers Everywhere, that preach the Gospel of Salvation, very few around but, there are those who want unity and a false love, apostate, I think the Bible calls them, not me, Gods Word is always true:
 
BENFOX   5/19/2009 11:04 PM
139 .  Practised Liars
Hussein Obama and Hillary Clinton are well chronicled practised liars, but I''m quite sure Netanyahu is aware of this.

Hussein Obama-among other lies too numerous to enumerate here-told the Israeli leadership that Jerusalem should not be divided. This was when he was campaigning for President of the Citizens of the World. Within 48 hours he said that Jerusalem should be divided. Not only that, he also said in the same breath that he would never compromise Israel''s security. One statement by this complete and utter fraud is an outright lie. The other statement is a display of his venal deception for you see, Hamas, the PA, Hezbollah, and the rest of the Islamofascists would never compromise Israel''s security either.

Hussein Obama is a liar. He is a complete and utter fraud. He is no friend of America, Israel, or freedom-he is dangerous.
 
FulghumInk   5/19/2009 10:41 PM
140 .  forsaken israel
according to the Bible Israel will be alone ans without friends in the last days
 
bob clark   5/19/2009 9:43 PM
141 .  Prime Minister Meeting In Washington
The creation of a Palestinian State will never bring lasting peace to Israel. The Palestians with the exception of the Palestinan Believers in Yeshua, want Israel driven into the sea. They want them to cease to be no more. Israel received this people when no other nation in the Middle East would have them. In a matter of fact, there is not one country in the Middle East who want thr Palestianians. That is why these nations are fighting so hard against Israel. When these people had the opportunity to have a state of their own, their leaders rejected it, because they did not want bounderies between them. I read that 1/2 of Israeli Arabs want Israel to cease to exist. The President of the United States know''s nothing about the Covenant made to Abraham, Isaac & Jacob, even though he has proclaimed to be a christian. The land of Israel has been given to Israel by Covenant. It''s an Everlasting Covenant of Go-d. When they were driven out of the land thousands of years ago, Go-d promised that he would
 
Janice   5/19/2009 9:28 PM
142 .  Way too much good logic, Kitty O
You made too much sense. The statements made by Obama are from a man who must have been born yesterday.

Netanyahu, so far, has demonstrated a strength and continuity of thought that makes him the man of the hour. This conflict may be populated by characters, but it is God Who will end the "play". We who trust Him, are thankful to rest in that truth.
 
Barbara Kay   5/19/2009 8:57 PM
143 .  love of Christ
The only way out is the love of Christ. So let us pray for God''s Israel and its opponents...
 
marnix   5/19/2009 8:54 PM
144 .  Israel vs Obama
Israel should stay the course and not get caught up in Obama''s attitude of "historic opportunity by letting Palestine be d as a state". NOT until they acknowledge Israel as a STATE. Which they won''t do.
 
Cyndie   5/19/2009 8:50 PM
145 .  And Let''s Not Forget That Peres...
Has danced with the devil (reprented by Islam), like others in his political party - the socialists...he is the author of the Olso Accords, and he, like the other Socialist government leaders of Europe, have allowed Islam to grow, thrive, and dictate (in the name of Political Correctness!) against their citizens who stand as Christians or Torah-practicing Jews. Obama is following suit!
Peres should be prosecuted as a traitor against his own people and nation.
 
Judah   5/19/2009 8:11 PM
146 .  Ellie 6.00, true and the Amalek were the meanest,
the trickiest, the coward and satanic sneakers always they attacked in the back - women and children.

The descendants of Esau, against Jacov, Eretz Israel.
 
Bert, Holland   5/19/2009 7:57 PM
147 .  Amen Jim Borge!
Hi Jim, I agree, with all you''ve said. I just pray, Netanyahu will stay strong, and never give into Obama! But if he does, it''s as you said, God will defend Israel! I just pray, that God will have mercy on the US, for the part, that our government has played, in wrongly trying to decide Israel''s fate! God bless you and Israel!
 
Brenda W   5/19/2009 7:50 PM
148 .  It''s so mean and not fair, the media in Holland
as well. They do not call it ''partronising'' or even manipulating of Hussein Barack O... They say cynically Netanyahu HAS to follow Obama...

Most of us think different here, and God only knows...
 
Bert, Holland   5/19/2009 7:50 PM
149 .  Don''t Trust BHO
Israel should Never trust this man. He is a closet muslim and hates the Nation of Israel.
 
mickey   5/19/2009 7:47 PM
150 .  correction #26 Christian Supporter :-)

 
Dawn   5/19/2009 7:40 PM
151 .  Christian Supporter #24
Jesus spoke to us in parables using real life illustrations so that we may see the meaning.
I truly appreciate your illustration, and find it to be a GREAT example in warning Israel to stand firm.
God is the Great Communicator, and I feel He spoke through you in this illustration, it really speaks to our generation, thank you.
 
Dawn   5/19/2009 7:39 PM
152 .  One has to ask
What if the Polynesians decided they wanted Hawaii back? We did just sort of take it. And what if, to make their point, they began to launch rockets willy nilly all over the islands. Do you suppose Obama would roll over, tell the Americans to vacate the Hawiian islands, and amicably hand the islands back over? I doubt it.
It is always easy for a big, nosey country to tell a little country what to do. Hang in there Benjamin. Be praying because The Lord God of Israel is still in control, not Obama. Do what the Torah says: don''t divide the land, don''t give in to the Philistines, obey the LORD, and He will protect you from your enemies, even if it is us, I am sad to say...
 
Kitty O   5/19/2009 7:33 PM
153 .  NETANYAHU, STAND FIRM AGAINST OBAMA!
Obama, like those before him (except Reagan) are only concerned with their "legacy"! Pride and arrogance! Hussein Obama has no idea about the consequences that he will bring on the United States. God will defend Israel!
 
Jim Borge   5/19/2009 7:07 PM
154 .  BiBi
Hang in there BiBi. Stay strong. You are greatly admired by the Christians. God bless you.
 
Rozz   5/19/2009 7:06 PM
155 .  Peres # 11
Shouldn''t the old man Peres be put out to pasture? He''s beyond it now and has been for a very long time. I feel with his silly ranting he is bringing Israel into great danger. Peres may have been a good PM in his day, but his day is long since over. Now be a good little man, Mr. Peres, and hut up!
 
Rozz   5/19/2009 7:00 PM
156 .  Continued FRANK...
The Day of The LORD is G-D''s Wrath on those that are not HIS. The True and Faithful to the Word of G-D will not be here (Raptured) or already with the LORD by being Martyred or have fallen asleep in The LORD. When HE returns with HIS Angles and Saints,(Armageddon) that is when the remaining jews will see HIM and G-D will Save HIS People. The Gospel has always been to the jewish people first, that is what G-D says...not me. The Reformers FAILED to do that...now they are on there why to Rome (Babylon). They, most of them were the first Replacementist, and Dominionist. Babylon is forming right before my eyes, I hope others can see!
 
Gloria   5/19/2009 6:56 PM
157 .  Patronizing Obama??
Do not fear! We are exactly where we are supposed to be in the END TIMES. G-D will bring all to conclusion in HIS time. Keep praying and watching! "Knuckle Head Smith" will see who is the BOSS!!
 
Mary   5/19/2009 6:48 PM
158 .  FRANK...
Yes Frank G-D''s Word is True. I don''t have much respect for Hal Lindsey he is on his Fifth Wife, why does he not care about what G-D has said? Warnings were given to Israel, the same warnings are given to the churches,heads of the same coin. 1 Corinthians 10 is the churches reading this NO. We do not have enough Leaders (Pastors) in this country and others any longer that know The LORD G-D. G-D''s Grace does cover a multitude of sins if people would really repent, but I don''t see that happening.Grace (Yeshua) hung on that Cross and people are taking The Grace of G-D for granted. Persecution has to come to clean out the trash. But who gets it first...the ones that believe the Whole Bible, not the apostates and back-sliden. That is History, Present and that is the Future.
 
Gloria   5/19/2009 6:26 PM
159 .  Israel''s Mighty Army
I believe that G_d will use Israel''s mighty army to JUDGE all of it''s surrounding enemies and after this, Israel will live in a time of peace and great wealth as in the days of Solomon. But, the nation (Netanyahu) must obey G_d rather than Obama!!!
 
Mike S.   5/19/2009 6:18 PM
160 .  Show down "it has begun"
Our prayer is the Lord almighty is coming soon, we will then be one state. It will be called the "Holy City New Jerusalem".
 
Eve   5/19/2009 6:09 PM
161 .  Mr. Arrogant
What a joke! Obama''s only experience in politics has been that he was a senator of Illinois for a couple of years. Now he seems to think that he can dictate what world leaders should do. What does he know about anything!? Why does the world seem to think this guy is so great? What has he ever really done? People are so deceived. Netanyahu has far more experience in this area and probably makes Obama look like a jerk. Praise God that Netanyahu stood his ground and didn''t "bow" down to Obama.
 
Lisa   5/19/2009 6:08 PM
162 .  Israel
Woe to America! Israel will be protected by Yahweh Savuot. The Jews will be protected and they must bow down on their knees and say the words, "Baruch ha ba B''shem Adonai". America is the New Babylon in Revelation! The leaders in the world are the chess pieces on Yahweh''s chess board. Yahweh will use them to fulfill HIS purposes! Israel is HIS holy land and Jerusalem is HIS holy city. For those who have given land for peace will be dealt with and for those who have taken land for peace will be dealt with severely by Yahweh!
 
marilyn   5/19/2009 6:05 PM
163 .  Almighty G-d reveals HIS Words to me !!!
Our Holy and Heavenly Father G-d and our L-rd are at work.. I am revealed what must soon take place in the last days. Almighty G-d will do what He has said in His time.

Now it is the end time of last days, satan and all evil spirits and devils will be destroyed completely by our Almighty G-d.


 
Miryam Shoshan Yosef   5/19/2009 6:05 PM
164 .  Stay Strong Obama
Do not let the rich Israeli minds once again manipulate the Americans to fight and strengthen the Zionist interests. Stay civil and true and you will make proper sane rational decisions.

 
Oren   5/19/2009 6:04 PM
165 .  God Bless more Isreal your chosen
Let the Mighty God Bless more and more Isreal his chosen give then Victory infront of all ennemies like you did with KING DAVID to GOLHIAT US president Please stay with ISREAL if not you will feeldown don''t make mistake Isreal people of God his Chosen in the Earth
God bless Isreal to overcome all the ennemies. amen! amen!
 
  5/19/2009 6:03 PM
166 .  Netanyahu and Obama, Round One
Two world leaders, with the same goals of peace, but with opposing plans of achievement.
One holding firm to history, truth and reality.
(Netanyahu)
The other holding to philosophical ideals and of his own ability to inspire. (Obama)
Each man believes he is right.

In a way, Netanyahu is also a philosopher, but his views are based on reality and knowledge of Israel''s history knowing well that the enemies of Israel are the same yesterday, today and tomorrow .
A current article in Arutz Israel News reported that Netanyahu sees Iran as Amalek. That is significant in his understanding of the threat from Iran.

 
Ellie   5/19/2009 6:00 PM
167 .  Almighty G-d will do what He has said in His time !!!
It is no wonder Obama demotes the Jews and recent speech there had been the scene of the fiercest anti-Israel ,etc..

For the reason that in fact, satan-possessed clinton pretends, practises deception, division, corrupt and the evil spirit of clinton enters Obama''s body and mind. Evil spirits and demons control those whom they enter, to affect their minds, bodies, actions, illusions and speaking.

My Father G-d told me and confirmed to me that clinton is the last a satan-possessed one in the world in the last days... The sins and bodies of clinton, Hillary and their evil daughter must be nailed into crosses.

The death time of lucifer and united states and clinton come. On Oct.19th last year, my Holy and Heavenly Father G-d spoke to my heart that " Kill clinton, Destroy United States!" That the matter has been firmly decided by G-d and G-d will do it soon. This is what I am told and confirmed from G-d of Israel my Holy and Heavenly Father and my L-rd.

Our Holy and Heavenly F
 
Miryam Shoshan Yosef   5/19/2009 6:00 PM
168 .  As I watched the news reports last night...
I heard the media spin, of course slanted in Obama''s "favor"...like this president has the final say in the matter...what a smug and evil man he is...
The report also showed Peres (the slimy president) contradicting Netanyahu, almost agreeing word for word with Obama! That guy needs to be ousted for mutiny - and for attempting to undermine the Prime Minister''s policies! He reminds me of Absalom, who while King David ruled over Israel, his devious son stood at the gate of the city, speaking in ways that undermined and usurped his father''s authority!
May the Lord deal with Peres and his ongoing attempts to be the king of Israel...The man is corrupt, and his ways only harm Israel. It is time for him to be thrown out of office.
 
Judah   5/19/2009 5:56 PM
169 .  Obama on Israel
fully agree with the comments of Frank.
Every real believer knowing the bible and especially the prophets should look at the situation around Israel with spiritual eyes.
The land is Gods land and the Jews are His chosen.
He will fulfill His plans with Israel. The re-gathering of the Jews back to the land of their anchestors (aliyah) is a sign of the end time.
We will continue to pray for the protection of Israel against her enemies and the Peace of Jerusalem.
Shalom from Holland
 
Dik - Holland   5/19/2009 5:48 PM
170 .  Blessings to Israel !
I agree wholehartedly with #1 Kimber and others saying Obama can''t be trusted by Christian Americans who Obama says doesn''t exist! So how can any other people trust him? Palestineans haven''t kept any treaty Yet'' so how can they be expected to start? They aren''t seeking land but riddance of the Jew. Obama had better focus on Pakistan and Afganistan and their neuclear threats, plus the snakes he''s plowing up at home! Netanyahu and God will take care of Israel, which will last forever! God said it I believe it!
 
satch   5/19/2009 5:44 PM
171 .  Satanayhus visit
was to tell obama what obama would do and when obama would do it.
 
Rabbi-t   5/19/2009 5:35 PM
172 .  KEEP ISRAEL FREE
DON''T CAVE IN ISRAEL/STAND TALL
 
Harold Lipscomb   5/19/2009 5:27 PM
173 .  G-d Bless Israel !!
Way to go Bibi! Obama is smug to everyone. He sticks his nose up in the air and talks down to everyone with his elitism pompous self righteous "Tude" The EU UN Obama Blair all these groups think they can defeat G-d and put Him where they want. WRONG! Israel will EXIST forever! He will RULE from David''s throne! And they will have ALL the LAND G-d promised in the covenant!
 
Kimber   5/19/2009 5:21 PM
174 .  YAY Netanyahu!
Go Netanyahu!!!! Don''t give in the Obama or the Palestineans. You have the land you are on not only because you won it in war but also because it is G-d ordained. hang in there! We are praying for you!
 
Angela   5/19/2009 5:12 PM
175 .  Patronizing?
"He also appeared to patronize Netanyahu by saying he knew the Israeli leader would eventually “rise to the occasion.” "

Doesn''t sound patronizing to me-sounds like a threat.
 
Miryam   5/19/2009 4:50 PM
176 .  Obama''s logic
Obama''s logic of creating "Palestine" first and they the Iranians will "see the light" is much like a cop in stand-off with an armed suspect holding a hostage. The suspect tells the cop to put the gun down and everything will be okay. Except, the reality is, he will either shoot the cop, escape with the hostage or both. Cops, in real life (unlike television) never lay their weapon down! Understand?
 
ChristianSupporter   5/19/2009 4:50 PM
177 .  Patronizing?
"He also appeared to patronize Netanyahu by saying he knew the Israeli leader would eventually “rise to the occasion.” "

Doesn''t sound patronizing to me-sounds like a threat.
 
Miryam   5/19/2009 4:46 PM
178 .  Outstanding
good Hutzpah from Netanyahu and company Israels security must come first especially with israel haters even using suicide bombers etc - in summary, Israel must put Israel first=======shalom=====augustine e johnson-usa
 
augustine e johnson-usa   5/19/2009 4:31 PM
179 .  BARACK THE MAGIC MUSLIM
The President of the United States is NOT to be trusted. Anyone who knows the political situation in the Middle East better is the Prime Minister who resides there. Israeli intelligence is the best in the world and needs to be so. If the Prime Minister says the two issues are separate, he knows far better than the magic muslim does.
 
Daniel Moran   5/19/2009 3:15 PM
180 .  Hang in there Israel
Then I will sprinkle clean water on you, and you shall be clean I will cleanse you from all your filthiness and from all your idols. I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit within you I will take the heart of stone out of your flesh and give you a heart of flesh. I will put My Spirit within you and cause you to walk in My statutes, and you will keep My judgments and do them. Then you shall dwell in the land that I gave to your fathers you shall be My people, and I will be your God.''" (Ezek.36:22-28 NKJ)
The LORD of Israel has already fulfilled most of this prophecy before our eyes. He will certainly fulfill the rest of it just as literally. And woe to the people that try to block what God is going to do. Do you hear me, Oh leaders of America.

God bless Israel
 
FRANK   5/19/2009 3:01 PM
181 .  Hang in there Israel
God swore that He would bring them back to the land He promised their forefathers, that He would cause their land to flourish under their hand, that He would miraculously make them a nation. And God predicted that He would do this despite the fact that they do not deserve His favor - but because He will keep His promises to their forefathers, Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. As God swore through the Prophet Ezekiel,
"Therefore say to the house of Israel, ‘Thus says the Lord GOD: "I do not do this for your sake, O house of Israel, but for My holy name''s sake, which you have profaned among the nations wherever you went. And I will sanctify My great name, which has been profaned among the nations, which you have profaned in their midst and the nations shall know that I am the LORD," says the Lord GOD, "when I am hallowed in you before their eyes. For I will take you from among the nations, gather you out of all countries, and bring you into your own land. Then I will sprinkle clean water on you, and you shall be
 
FRANK   5/19/2009 2:59 PM
182 .  Hang in there Israel


Obama''s Administration insists upon negotiating with Mahmoud Abbas and the Fatah Party. Yet they are not the recognized elected government of the Palestinians. So any decisions made with Fatah are not binding upon Hamas.

Further, Hamas has now declared that they would only agree to a cease-fire of about ten years, not to a binding, permanent peace agreement. They have also said that they will not recognize Israel as a State, especially not a Jewish State. They demand all of Jerusalem.

No rational government would give statehood to such people as the Palestinians have proven to be. They cannot give a state to a people who in every way demonstrate that they do not accept Israel''s right to exist in secure borders. Especially not a state in the strategic heartland of their country that renders their nation indefensible.

It is time for all who believe the Bible to pray for the Israeli people. Their survival is at stake. God swore that He would bring them back to the land He promised
 
FRANK   5/19/2009 2:57 PM
183 .  Hang in there Israel


Their leaders used the money for themselves and to smuggle weapons and terrorist fighters into Gaza.
They sent suicide bombers in with their workers who had to work in Israel because they were incapable of building their own industries.
They bought and smuggled in rockets and missiles with which they continually bombarded the entire civilian Israeli population that are within range.
They overwhelmingly elected Hamas, a terrorist regime, to be their government.
All Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza refuse to recognize Israel has a right to exist and that it is a Jewish State.
Gaza gives proof of the kind of government the Palestinians in the West Bank will have. There is absolutely no evidence that giving them more land and sovereignty would change their behavior. On the contrary, that kind of demonstration of appeasement and weakness will only encourage the officially elected Hamas government to seek to finish the destruction of Israel.

Obama''s Administration insists upon n
 
FRANK   5/19/2009 2:56 PM
184 .  Hang in there Israel, WOE to America
D-Day for Israel''s Future?


By Hal Lindsey

Decisions that may determine the eventual demise or survival of Israel as a state will be set in motion in the tense meetings between President Barak Obama and Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu.

Despite the fact that the Palestinians have not kept one agreement that was part of the Oslo Accords and later the Road Map to Peace plan, the Obama Administration is set to apply maximum pressure upon Netanyahu to agree to a Palestinian state that includes all land within the Pre June-1967 borders.

The Palestinians were given a perfect opportunity to prove that they could live side by side in peace with Israel when they were given possession of Gaza and the freedom to govern it. Hundreds of millions of dollars were contributed to them to build an economic infra-structure so that their people would have work.

But just look at the historic record of how they used the opportunity:

Their leaders used the money for themselves and
 
FRANK   5/19/2009 2:53 PM


  
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